keithb said: @ZaZ can I ask how you test tactics? I have a good pc and like trying to build tactics, not very well, but am trying to learn from bits and pieces I pick up - mainly from you and kanp. But when running tests I notice all my players need a rest and cant help but feel this makes testing........ inconsistent? No worries if you'd rather not disclose this, thanks for all the tactics and your help . Expand
I just do normal holiday seasons with different teams.
I'm working on a tactic while also testing with the things that FM-Arena tested. Expand
@ZaZ Have you tried what is effectively this formation but moving both strikers to SS? So basically this in strikerless. I tried it (playing, not simming) for a season and thought it was actually pretty fantastic. DMs were maybe a different role though (DM-Support, possibly).
saycarramrod said: @ZaZ Have you tried what is effectively this formation but moving both strikers to SS? So basically this in strikerless. I tried it (playing, not simming) for a season and thought it was actually pretty fantastic. DMs were maybe a different role though (DM-Support, possibly). Expand
I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising.
ZaZ said: I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising. Expand
ZaZ said: I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising. Expand
HYPE!
Didn´t find the time to play much FM2023 but when your new tactic comes, i will start a new Save with everything out of the Community so far. So...can´t wait, HYPED HYPED HYPED! ♥ Have a great weekend@all
ZaZ said: I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising. Expand
Tell us, please, what exactly gave you a progress in results?
5 Libertadores Cup (the Champions League from South America) 5 Brazilian League (national) 4 Brazil Cup (National Cup) 96 points in one season (30 W) Undefeated in one season 106 goals in one season 62 Goals in one season with my striker (Carlos Vinicius) 58 games without a lose 24 wons in a roll
5 Libertadores Cup (the Champions League from South America) 5 Brazilian League (national) 4 Brazil Cup (National Cup) 96 points in one season (30 W) Undefeated in one season 106 goals in one season 62 Goals in one season with my striker (Carlos Vinicius) 58 games without a lose 24 wons in a roll Expand
Thank you for testing! I'm currently trying to improve it, so hopefully I will get something good before next patch.
ZaZ said: Thank you for testing! I'm currently trying to improve it, so hopefully I will get something good before next patch. Expand
I think Water is the most solid tactic of yours. The foundation are good, maybe it's possible to improve it, but i really think for a standard team it's a must have.
Falbravv said: I think Water is the most solid tactic of yours. The foundation are good, maybe it's possible to improve it, but i really think for a standard team it's a must have.
See you soon with improvements Expand
It's definitely possible to improve. Just a small change in instructions would bring it over 50 points mark, but I don't like to brute force every single change here in FM-Arena. I will submit once I have a good set of changes to add.
ZaZ said: I am intentionally trying to avoid the 424 shape that is getting the best results, since so many tactics popped up in that shape already. Expand
Do you think that PI's and TI's from Water 2.0 is the best combination at the moment?
@ZaZ Sorry I'm hijacking this thread with an off topic question, I just wondered if you thought Blue 3.0 from FM21 was more overpowered then Blue 4.0 from last year? I think the testing was changed on this site between FM21 and FM22 so that may have effected it
Middleweight165 said: @ZaZ Sorry I'm hijacking this thread with an off topic question, I just wondered if you thought Blue 3.0 from FM21 was more overpowered then Blue 4.0 from last year? I think the testing was changed on this site between FM21 and FM22 so that may have effected it Expand
I think Blue 3.0 from FM21 was stronger because it was very good attacking and defending. In FM22, Blue 4.0 was strong in attack, but not so good in defense.
ZaZ said: I think Blue 3.0 from FM21 was stronger because it was very good attacking and defending. In FM22, Blue 4.0 was strong in attack, but not so good in defense. Expand
Thanks mate, I had a nostalgic feeling and loaded up FM21
Could be said in they first test the top sides all lost too many games. But second test both Liverpool and City got very good points totals. Looks very good so far
ZaZ said: Water 3.0 up. Let me know how it performs for you! Expand
So basically you kept your formation from all zazs whatever and used another author's tips. (example Frisk, it's XMAS_twkd3). Nice touch by the way especially with the mentality in the balance! I think you should update your front page and give proper credit and not say that you delayed your releases because you conducted tests. You waited ... you saw... and you copied... My opinion but I will flag it properly if you don't change it. By the way you mention a lot to ZAZ Blue. Its Phoenix tactic. Good luck with the rest "tests"
Jet2 said: So basically you kept your formation from all zazs whatever and used another author's tips. (example Frisk, it's XMAS_twkd3). Nice touch by the way especially with the mentality in the balance! I think you should update your front page and give proper credit and not say that you delayed your releases because you conducted tests. You waited ... you saw... and you copied... My opinion but I will flag it properly if you don't change it. By the way you mention a lot to ZAZ Blue. Its Phoenix tactic. Good luck with the rest "tests" Expand
Keep in mind that several instructions were tested by this page (https://fm-arena.com/board/10-tactical-instructions-testing/), and that I am allowed to use other people's results to guide my tests, just like everyone else in the page does. If there is any tactic posted here (or anywhere else) that is too close to any of my tactics, I will gladly credit it in the first post.
keithb said: @ZaZ can I ask how you test tactics? I have a good pc and like trying to build tactics, not very well, but am trying to learn from bits and pieces I pick up - mainly from you and kanp. But when running tests I notice all my players need a rest and cant help but feel this makes testing........ inconsistent? No worries if you'd rather not disclose this, thanks for all the tactics and your help .
I just do normal holiday seasons with different teams.
@ZaZ please share your current best tactics, while fm-arena is not testing
Chatin said: which is better? fire o water?
There is a table with ranks.
https://fm-arena.com/table/17-patch-23-1-0/
Sane said: @ZaZ please share your current best tactics, while fm-arena is not testing
I'm working on a tactic while also testing with the things that FM-Arena tested.
ZaZ said: There is a table with ranks.
https://fm-arena.com/table/17-patch-23-1-0/
I'm working on a tactic while also testing with the things that FM-Arena tested.
@ZaZ Have you tried what is effectively this formation but moving both strikers to SS? So basically this in strikerless. I tried it (playing, not simming) for a season and thought it was actually pretty fantastic. DMs were maybe a different role though (DM-Support, possibly).
ZaZ said: There is a table with ranks.
https://fm-arena.com/table/17-patch-23-1-0/
I'm working on a tactic while also testing with the things that FM-Arena tested.
@ZaZ When can we expect a update?
saycarramrod said: @ZaZ Have you tried what is effectively this formation but moving both strikers to SS? So basically this in strikerless. I tried it (playing, not simming) for a season and thought it was actually pretty fantastic. DMs were maybe a different role though (DM-Support, possibly).
Didn't have much luck with strikerless yet.
I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising.
ZaZ said: I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising.
@ZaZ Can't wait my friend!
ZaZ said: I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising.
HYPE!
Didn´t find the time to play much FM2023 but when your new tactic comes, i will start a new Save with everything out of the Community so far.
So...can´t wait, HYPED HYPED HYPED! ♥ Have a great weekend@all
ZaZ said: I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising.
Tell us, please, what exactly gave you a progress in results?
Hey @ZaZ here my results with your tactic
5 Libertadores Cup (the Champions League from South America)
5 Brazilian League (national)
4 Brazil Cup (National Cup)
96 points in one season (30 W)
Undefeated in one season
106 goals in one season
62 Goals in one season with my striker (Carlos Vinicius)
58 games without a lose
24 wons in a roll
WesleySantiago said: Hey @ZaZ here my results with your tactic
5 Libertadores Cup (the Champions League from South America)
5 Brazilian League (national)
4 Brazil Cup (National Cup)
96 points in one season (30 W)
Undefeated in one season
106 goals in one season
62 Goals in one season with my striker (Carlos Vinicius)
58 games without a lose
24 wons in a roll
Thank you for testing! I'm currently trying to improve it, so hopefully I will get something good before next patch.
ZaZ said: Thank you for testing! I'm currently trying to improve it, so hopefully I will get something good before next patch.
I think Water is the most solid tactic of yours. The foundation are good, maybe it's possible to improve it, but i really think for a standard team it's a must have.
See you soon with improvements
Falbravv said: I think Water is the most solid tactic of yours. The foundation are good, maybe it's possible to improve it, but i really think for a standard team it's a must have.
See you soon with improvements
It's definitely possible to improve. Just a small change in instructions would bring it over 50 points mark, but I don't like to brute force every single change here in FM-Arena. I will submit once I have a good set of changes to add.
Water 2.0 is up.
ZaZ said: Water 2.0 is up.
?
When is fire 2.0 this night
ZaZ said: Water 2.0 is up.
Struggle to have good results with this 2.0, hope it's just on my side
Falbravv said: Struggle to have good results with this 2.0, hope it's just on my side
I am intentionally trying to avoid the 424 shape that is getting the best results, since so many tactics popped up in that shape already.
ZaZ said: I am intentionally trying to avoid the 424 shape that is getting the best results, since so many tactics popped up in that shape already.
Do you think that PI's and TI's from Water 2.0 is the best combination at the moment?
Sane said: Do you think that PI's and TI's from Water 2.0 is the best combination at the moment?
The best is the one that gets the best results on tests.
@ZaZ Sorry I'm hijacking this thread with an off topic question, I just wondered if you thought Blue 3.0 from FM21 was more overpowered then Blue 4.0 from last year? I think the testing was changed on this site between FM21 and FM22 so that may have effected it
Blue 4.0 from last year seemed to test alright on FMBase under this ME
Middleweight165 said: @ZaZ Sorry I'm hijacking this thread with an off topic question, I just wondered if you thought Blue 3.0 from FM21 was more overpowered then Blue 4.0 from last year? I think the testing was changed on this site between FM21 and FM22 so that may have effected it
I think Blue 3.0 from FM21 was stronger because it was very good attacking and defending. In FM22, Blue 4.0 was strong in attack, but not so good in defense.
ZaZ said: I think Blue 3.0 from FM21 was stronger because it was very good attacking and defending. In FM22, Blue 4.0 was strong in attack, but not so good in defense.
Thanks mate, I had a nostalgic feeling and loaded up FM21
Please Water 2.0 asap we believe in @ZaZ
Could be said in they first test the top sides all lost too many games. But second test both Liverpool and City got very good points totals. Looks very good so far
Water 3.0 up. Let me know how it performs for you!
ZaZ said: Water 3.0 up. Let me know how it performs for you!
So basically you kept your formation from all zazs whatever and used another author's tips. (example Frisk, it's XMAS_twkd3). Nice touch by the way especially with the mentality in the balance! I think you should update your front page and give proper credit and not say that you delayed your releases because you conducted tests. You waited ... you saw... and you copied... My opinion but I will flag it properly if you don't change it. By the way you mention a lot to ZAZ Blue. Its Phoenix tactic. Good luck with the rest "tests"
Jet2 said: So basically you kept your formation from all zazs whatever and used another author's tips. (example Frisk, it's XMAS_twkd3). Nice touch by the way especially with the mentality in the balance! I think you should update your front page and give proper credit and not say that you delayed your releases because you conducted tests. You waited ... you saw... and you copied... My opinion but I will flag it properly if you don't change it. By the way you mention a lot to ZAZ Blue. Its Phoenix tactic. Good luck with the rest "tests"
Please, report in the proper place (https://fm-arena.com/board/9-fair-play-commission/) and provide details about how my tactic is a copy of some other.
Keep in mind that several instructions were tested by this page (https://fm-arena.com/board/10-tactical-instructions-testing/), and that I am allowed to use other people's results to guide my tests, just like everyone else in the page does. If there is any tactic posted here (or anywhere else) that is too close to any of my tactics, I will gladly credit it in the first post.
About Phoenix, it's very easy to check that Blue was posted before Phoenix.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/780-zaz-blue/
https://fm-arena.com/thread/784-phoenix/
Will there be any player instructions ETC uploaded for console players for 3.1?