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Challenge the narrow diamond formation with the power of the storm's hammer.

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I have spent a lot of time thinking about why diamonds are so crappy this year but the box is strong. They should be pretty similar systems, right?

-clearly, double dms are very strong
-2 strikers + 2 ams is also clearly very strong. I think it just overloads the defensive ai with numbers. If you get enough dudes in the box, someone's going to find a pocket of space
-cms just don't seem to do enough relative to other options. It's hard to get any system to score well if it has 2 actual cms: 433, 352, diamond, flat 442--all missing from the top of the leaderboard
-lack of defensive cover on the wings prob. ain't helping either. inside forwards or even amcs that aren't dead center will put at least some pressure on fullbacks during buildup.
-stylistically, the match engine this year just doesn't seem to like quick, intricate passing which a diamond should excel at.

so what can be done? You could maybe try to mimic a box setup and see how that goes: dm on some kind of support role, an mc on defend and one on attack, amc on attack or maybe even an ss, two strikers on stay wider, and fb(a) to maybe be a little more solid on the flanks. I haven't had the time to test it myself yet but it sounds reasonable.

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detroitrex said: I have spent a lot of time thinking about why diamonds are so crappy this year but the box is strong. They should be pretty similar systems, right?

-clearly, double dms are very strong
-2 strikers + 2 ams is also clearly very strong. I think it just overloads the defensive ai with numbers. If you get enough dudes in the box, someone's going to find a pocket of space
-cms just don't seem to do enough relative to other options. It's hard to get any system to score well if it has 2 actual cms: 433, 352, diamond, flat 442--all missing from the top of the leaderboard
-lack of defensive cover on the wings prob. ain't helping either. inside forwards or even amcs that aren't dead center will put at least some pressure on fullbacks during buildup.
-stylistically, the match engine this year just doesn't seem to like quick, intricate passing which a diamond should excel at.

so what can be done? You could maybe try to mimic a box setup and see how that goes: dm on some kind of support role, an mc on defend and one on attack, amc on attack or maybe even an ss, two strikers on stay wider, and fb(a) to maybe be a little more solid on the flanks. I haven't had the time to test it myself yet but it sounds reasonable.


Good write, but i think overall the reason why it is not strong is not offensively because both are not that far apart i have had some 51-52 diamond here tested and maybe can push a bit more, problem is defense the diamond is very bad at covering distances the AM is useless in the center, i had a 352 turned into a 3511 diamond and did worse and the AM was very useless in defense in the center, while outer AM do very well, also the 2 DM is very strong compared to 1 DM even 3 DM are very strong this year too they cover the half spaces much better than CM

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Avenger22 said: problem is defense the diamond is very bad at covering distances the AM is useless in the center,

what we need is a bwm role in the amc slot! (also maybe a targetman)

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detroitrex said: what we need is a bwm role in the amc slot! (also maybe a targetman)

The vidal role in juventus in 2013-2014 CM/DM without the ball and AM with the ball, i would love to play a 442 without the ball a pure 4312 with the ball impossible in ME, the bs 442 can be turned into whatever doesn't work WP is very very wide never goes in primary central area so 4312 without the ball is nonsense in football you can destroyed

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