FM lineup Tool

by doru228, Feb 4, 2024

Anyone has any opinion about the ratings of this program?
Was just posted a few days ago on fm scout (not making any publicity towards it)

https://www.fmscout.com/a-fmplus24.html

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I think it uses in game weightings like the ones you see in the editor.

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Similar to the in-game information given for each position, attributes are split up in Key and Preferable - and non-necessary attributes. These are then given a weight, not sure about the exact number, but let's say 5x for Key and 3x for Preferable, which makes those attributes more important in the overall calculation.

However this approach is entirely flawed, as it completely disregards important attributes (regardless of position/role/duty) entirely. So specialized players, with high dribbling, pace, acceleration will score high as a Winger in the program, but in reality because of low other attributes which are no included in the calculation for Winger position (for instance Work Rate) will perform badly in-game.

This is also the same calculation method squirrel_plays uses in his python code by the way.
The program also takes into account player's position I believe, and attributes a negative weight if a player is not a Natural in the position you want to play him as. However this isn't entirely confirmed.

It's also good to know that FM Plus and FMLineUpTool are essentially the same program, except FM Plus incorporates more fuctionality taken from the FM Scout program, like automatically loading in players instead of saving players to .csv or .html file and loading them into the program seperately.
I believe the creator, Davy Depuydt, struck a deal with FM Scout to split revenue in return for these parts of the fuctionality. As for a lot of people FM LineUp Tool and now FM Plus is preferred to FM Scout because of it's simplicity.

All-in-all, the calculating methods behind FM Plus are flawed.
I would always prefer to work with FM Scout over FM Plus or FM LineUp Tool.
However, if you're looking for just quick plug-and-play style scouting and transfer suggestions rather than a deep dive into attributes, FM Plus is a good alternative to FM Scout.

From my personal experience FM LineUp Tool was actually a better program than FM Plus, especially for older versions of the game. However it seems they've already removed the download for this program and replaced it with FM Plus'.
If anyone has the program still stored on their machine, please share here!

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skawkclsrn said: If anyone has the program still stored on their machine, please share here!

i have it on my old PC i think

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