The Importance of "Tackle Harder" Instructions

by Speed, Jan 1, 2024

The meta seems to favor Tackle Harder on every player.

Why do you think that is?

I wonder if it's actually relevant in a regular, human-managed game, or whether the benefits are most tangible in simulated seasons.

For example... Is the benefit of tackle harder the fact that players get more yellow cards, forcing them to be suspended more often, forcing the AI manager to rotate the squad more, leading to a happier and more fit squad that is less prone to injuries and morale drops from rowdy reserves?

Or is the benefit more localized, in how it intimidates the weaker opponents?

It would be interesting to test the effects of this instruction, and whether we can optimize it by selectively applying it to a certain type of player/opponent rather than the whole team.

Thoughts? I haven't found any thorough discussion on this topic.

I might explore it further myself and report back. Not exactly sure how yet though.

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@Speed, check this out - https://fm-arena.com/thread/3240-get-stuck-in-ti-vs-tackle-harder-pi/

Especially, this one - https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/18382/

There's about a 20 points difference between "Tackle Harder" and "Easy Off Tackle" and I guess, the result for "the standard" level of Tackle settings would be something in the middle.

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Speed said: The meta seems to favor Tackle Harder on every player.

Why do you think that is?

I wonder if it's actually relevant in a regular, human-managed game, or whether the benefits are most tangible in simulated seasons.

For example... Is the benefit of tackle harder the fact that players get more yellow cards, forcing them to be suspended more often, forcing the AI manager to rotate the squad more, leading to a happier and more fit squad that is less prone to injuries and morale drops from rowdy reserves?

Or is the benefit more localized, in how it intimidates the weaker opponents?

It would be interesting to test the effects of this instruction, and whether we can optimize it by selectively applying it to a certain type of player/opponent rather than the whole team.

Thoughts? I haven't found any thorough discussion on this topic.

I might explore it further myself and report back. Not exactly sure how yet though.

I also want to add to what @Lapidus said that generally players when they are at the normal tackle level tend to be more passive than active in their defensive duties. That's another reason to have "Tackle Harder" at all positions.

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Most top tactics seem to have this plus Get Stuck In.  Personally I just use Tackle Harder on everyone as an alternative to Get Stuck In, so I can adjust individual players after they get booked without being overridden by the team tactic.

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I think this works just like in real life. A ferocious team that tackles hard and gets physical is likely to intimidate the opponent and show their desire to win the game. So, I believe it not only affects tackling, fouls, physicality, etc., but also the mentality and momentum of the game. Of course, it can backfire and is a risky approach, but it depends on your team and the opponent.

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first thing I do with any downloaded tactic is turn off all the hard tackling, I just don't like it, and always seems to lead to more sendings off IMO

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