ZaZ's Log

by ZaZ, Oct 23, 2021

Target Person said: Thanks @ZaZ for all the testing and feedback!

As a fan of target man role I'm encouraged by your findings, have you tried a TF-Su + TF-At combo? Personally I've had decent success with various striker roles as long as the strikers were tall and good in the air - lots of goals from headers.

Would you suggest using big, tall strikers as TF-At or any type of striker should do?

Thanks


About TF-Su + TF-At, it got worse results than double TF-At for me. It doesn't mean it's bad, it just wasn't the best for my setup.

About tall strikers, I am not sure about it yet. I didn't do any tests about it, so any opinion I give now would be just a guess. I believe FM-Arena will test it some time after beta, so we will eventually know.

pixar said: So how should the ideal TF be?
170-180cm tall, bad jumping (7-11), amazing speed (+18)
+190cm tall, avg jumping & speed (15-16)

In year, when choosing a TF, should our main criterion be height or speed?


It's hard to know yet, since I'm focusing in testing the tactic instead of what players would fit in better. I don't want to make any wild guesses that might influence people to the wrong direction.

If you really want to know what I would pick, I would probably go for the first option, since it worked better last version (FM21) and I don't have much info about FM22 yet.

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@ZaZ Wait, by TF do you mean Target Man ? I thought you meant Trequartista.

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Jimmy said: @ZaZ Wait, by TF do you mean Target Man ? I thought you meant Trequartista.

Target Forward, they changed name in FM22.

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respect for ZAZ

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ZaZ said: My first suggestion for anyone doing tactics is to use TF-At, they seem to do better than any other role. I also tried most interesting combinations and none is better than two TF-At. I have yet to try three strikers or one striker, but I don't think it will be much different.
For me I tried solo TF striker and HB DM and none of them were that great, actually felt worse, i'd say the only one where I noticed a definitive difference is inverted wingers on attack which I got from you, instantly noticed them playing better.

For me FB attack and DLP defend seem to be good, aswell as 1 AF with 2 AMs on attack behind.

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Kyle said: For me I tried solo TF striker and HB DM and none of them were that great, actually felt worse, i'd say the only one where I noticed a definitive difference is inverted wingers on attack which I got from you, instantly noticed them playing better.

For me FB attack and DLP defend seem to be good, aswell as 1 AF with 2 AMs on attack behind.


One TF with two SS also do well.

P.S.: I now started to test wingback roles.

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Kyle said: Na, was modified one of a tactic from reddit. Guy had some really nice results from it but just wasn't that strong for me so I used a lot of things you've put in this post.


https://prnt.sc/1xhmgdb


can u share the link til reddit?

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for me 2 DM is better than 1 CM and 1 DM at moment, i think its more safe to play with 2 DM and the results start to get better

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Cagado said: for me 2 DM is better than 1 CM and 1 DM at moment, i think its more safe to play with 2 DM and the results start to get better

Yet to try it.

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ZaZ said: Yet to try it.

Do your recommendations only relate to your tactics? Or do you talk about what works on this engine in any tactic?

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Sane said: Do your recommendations only relate to your tactics? Or do you talk about what works on this engine in any tactic?

They most likely work for most tactics. However, it's possible that some specific tactics can bring the best out of something I said didn't work very well. Also, keep in mind that this is Beta and match engine will change a couple of times after release.

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I dont have success with TF(At). Weird though. AF still perform best

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ta2199 said: I dont have success with TF(At). Weird though. AF still perform best

Probably gonna have to test again when match engine changes again. I'm just trying to get a solid foundation.

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hey man, have u found a new best? or is it still the same?

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BiTeL33T said: hey man, have u found a new best? or is it still the same?

Found some similar, but no better yet.

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any with slower tempo? even rotating my team all the time im getting so many injuries

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BiTeL33T said: any with slower tempo? even rotating my team all the time im getting so many injuries

'Slow pace down' on TI may prevent your players from getting injured by lowering intensity. Even though it's just a small change...

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BiTeL33T said: any with slower tempo? even rotating my team all the time im getting so many injuries

Probably not gonna have top tactic without maximum intensity. When you lower tempo, you lower you chance to win. You can use it to rest when match is already won, tough.

P.S.: Pass Into Space was one of the worst team instructions I tried. Avoid it like the plague.

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ZaZ said: Probably not gonna have top tactic without maximum intensity. When you lower tempo, you lower you chance to win. You can use it to rest when match is already won, tough.

P.S.: Pass Into Space was one of the worst team instructions I tried. Avoid it like the plague.


What do you think of a higher defensive line? Big problems with conceded goals. Or maybe use tighter marking?

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Sane said: What do you think of a higher defensive line? Big problems with conceded goals. Or maybe use tighter marking?

Gonna add to the queue to be tested.

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Good evening everybody, old timer of this beautiful game here having played zillions of hours right from championship manager as it was called then. Dear ZaZ, I've tried your test tactic you posted last in the forum and guys its the best tactic I've come across on Beta so far. Request everyone to blindly plug and play it. And ZaZ mate you are definitely the numero uno tactic creator I've seen in all these years although you being very down to earth and don't like taking credit, but please do for the work you have created here. I mean really I truly appreciate your tactics especially the last one. Always waiting for your next one, cheers!!!

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arsenal737 said: Good evening everybody, old timer of this beautiful game here having played zillions of hours right from championship manager as it was called then. Dear ZaZ, I've tried your test tactic you posted last in the forum and guys its the best tactic I've come across on Beta so far. Request everyone to blindly plug and play it. And ZaZ mate you are definitely the numero uno tactic creator I've seen in all these years although you being very down to earth and don't like taking credit, but please do for the work you have created here. I mean really I truly appreciate your tactics especially the last one. Always waiting for your next one, cheers!!!

Thank you so much!

I decided to open my test results this year to help people get better tactics. I understand that might make someone post the same tactic before me and claim credits for it (maybe in another forum or Discord server), but I still think this way is better for everyone. Being in the top of the table is kinda tiresome, because you suddenly become a celebrity with thousands of questions asked every day, even though you are just a player like many others.

Anyway, thank you again for the encouraging words! I'll keep trying to improve the tactic, but everything might disappear once game is released because of new match engine.

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Hi @ZaZ Where can I download your tactic? :-)

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https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/7536/

TobyTriceps said: Hi @ZaZ Where can I download your tactic? :-)

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arsenal737 said: https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/7536/

Thanks!

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@ZaZ Do you have any training schedules for this tactic or do you recommend someone?

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TobyTriceps said: @ZaZ Do you have any training schedules for this tactic or do you recommend someone?

I am using the same schedule from last year, which you can find here: https://fm-arena.com/thread/884-zaz-blue-3-0/

However, keep in mind that I never did any testing with trainings and the ones I use might very well be as good or bad as any other.

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TobyTriceps said: @ZaZ Do you have any training schedules for this tactic or do you recommend someone?

Okay, thanks :-)

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Current best was updated. It's Red 0.1 with Slow Pace Down added. Gonna create a topic to post it so more people can see it.

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ZaZ said: Current best was updated. It's Red 0.1 with Slow Pace Down added. Gonna create a topic to post it so more people can see it.


Where is update tactic bro?

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