Mark said: I have tested 6 tactics today since the release. Selected tactics based on a combination of Eric's testing and my Beta testing. Ran the tactic in 5 divisions with sides that were all 33/1 with the bookmakers and rated between 16 and 20 with the media. L1 Shrewsbury, L2 Carlisle, VNL Halifax, VNN Southport and VNS Hungerford.
Here are the results.
You will notice that Electro and Arrowhead had less games. Electro Manager was sacked by Shrewsbury after 37 League games and Arrowhead Manager was sacked after just 14 games by Hungerford. This probably meant they faired better than they would have given their under performing team didn't play out the season. Next to test is ZaZ Red 1.0 and then the remainder of the tactics of interest.
As always my interest is lower league sides so there are columns for Non League PPM and Rank. The main column of interest should be PPM. I do find it interesting in my tests to date that no one formation is dominating so far with this release.
Hope this helps someone. Expand
Fingers crossed for Red 1.0, but I don't think it will do so well since it really sucks for Norwich.
@ZaZ I had a quick look at corners for the top 10 tactics in my testing. Your ZaZ ones on 1.0b were the best followed by Fanecas. I used a copy of your set piece routines with a new tactic and achieved the same proportion of goal assists from corners. I am going to stick with it for future tactics.
I have one more tactic formation I want to test and then I will spend a bit of time playing until the next ME update. At the moment I will probably use Dragons Breath updated with your set pieces. I still think it is more than good enough to get me to the Sky Bet Championship from Vanarama North/South.
I retested Fanecas and it still didn't come close to ZaZs or Dragons Breath.
Mark said: @ZaZ I had a quick look at corners for the top 10 tactics in my testing. Your ZaZ ones on 1.0b were the best followed by Fanecas. I used a copy of your set piece routines with a new tactic and achieved the same proportion of goal assists from corners. I am going to stick with it for future tactics.
I have one more tactic formation I want to test and then I will spend a bit of time playing until the next ME update. At the moment I will probably use Dragons Breath updated with your set pieces. I still think it is more than good enough to get me to the Sky Bet Championship from Vanarama North/South.
I retested Fanecas and it still didn't come close to ZaZs or Dragons Breath. Expand
I am looking for a breakthrough, since I don't think change in roles or positions will increase score much further. I believe I have found some hints, but need to keep testing so I don't post some misleading thing.
ZaZ said: I am looking for a breakthrough, since I don't think change in roles or positions will increase score much further. I believe I have found some hints, but need to keep testing so I don't post some misleading thing. Expand
Zaz, do you have something interesting new? Looking forward to updating your tactics
Sane said: Zaz, do you have something interesting new? Looking forward to updating your tactics Expand
I'm testing some novel approaches to see if I get some big improvement, since we already have some relatively good tactics around. I'll be sure to post something new soon, but I'm not in a hurry.
Attacking mentality Inverted Wingers with instructions to stay wide seem to be the best option if you want to use wide men, at least from what I noticed. They cross, overlap and underlap with the wide defenders well and score as well. Seems like best of both worlds, at least on the wings.
In attack, I haven't had much success with anything other than AF's. I did use an Attacking DLF with some success, paired with an AF.
IWB's seem to dominate again this year, but I have had some success with attacking full backs instructed to sit narrower and cut inside.
Like Zaz posted earlier is what Im seeing in results as well, that its weird / interesting and frustrating at the same time that the same tactic can put you 18th in the testing league one run and then in another run you are 3rd.
This is what I experienced in my testing runs as well that one run I was champions with 86 points in the PL, the next I had 90 points and I ended 3rd.
I dont have the testing league available to me so I cant keep testing stuff as I dont have enough knowledge to set up a league like that.
Hope you find something interesting that works >consistenyly< @ZaZ !
Mark said: I have tested 6 tactics today since the release. Selected tactics based on a combination of Eric's testing and my Beta testing. Ran the tactic in 5 divisions with sides that were all 33/1 with the bookmakers and rated between 16 and 20 with the media. L1 Shrewsbury, L2 Carlisle, VNL Halifax, VNN Southport and VNS Hungerford.
Here are the results.
You will notice that Electro and Arrowhead had less games. Electro Manager was sacked by Shrewsbury after 37 League games and Arrowhead Manager was sacked after just 14 games by Hungerford. This probably meant they faired better than they would have given their under performing team didn't play out the season. Next to test is ZaZ Red 1.0 and then the remainder of the tactics of interest.
As always my interest is lower league sides so there are columns for Non League PPM and Rank. The main column of interest should be PPM. I do find it interesting in my tests to date that no one formation is dominating so far with this release.
Hope this helps someone.
Fingers crossed for Red 1.0, but I don't think it will do so well since it really sucks for Norwich.
Mark said:
I was expecting way worse! Thanks for testing!
@ZaZ I had a quick look at corners for the top 10 tactics in my testing. Your ZaZ ones on 1.0b were the best followed by Fanecas. I used a copy of your set piece routines with a new tactic and achieved the same proportion of goal assists from corners. I am going to stick with it for future tactics.
I have one more tactic formation I want to test and then I will spend a bit of time playing until the next ME update. At the moment I will probably use Dragons Breath updated with your set pieces. I still think it is more than good enough to get me to the Sky Bet Championship from Vanarama North/South.
I retested Fanecas and it still didn't come close to ZaZs or Dragons Breath.
Mark said: @ZaZ I had a quick look at corners for the top 10 tactics in my testing. Your ZaZ ones on 1.0b were the best followed by Fanecas. I used a copy of your set piece routines with a new tactic and achieved the same proportion of goal assists from corners. I am going to stick with it for future tactics.
I have one more tactic formation I want to test and then I will spend a bit of time playing until the next ME update. At the moment I will probably use Dragons Breath updated with your set pieces. I still think it is more than good enough to get me to the Sky Bet Championship from Vanarama North/South.
I retested Fanecas and it still didn't come close to ZaZs or Dragons Breath.
I am looking for a breakthrough, since I don't think change in roles or positions will increase score much further. I believe I have found some hints, but need to keep testing so I don't post some misleading thing.
ZaZ said: I am looking for a breakthrough, since I don't think change in roles or positions will increase score much further. I believe I have found some hints, but need to keep testing so I don't post some misleading thing.
Zaz, do you have something interesting new? Looking forward to updating your tactics
Sane said: Zaz, do you have something interesting new? Looking forward to updating your tactics
I'm testing some novel approaches to see if I get some big improvement, since we already have some relatively good tactics around. I'll be sure to post something new soon, but I'm not in a hurry.
Attacking mentality Inverted Wingers with instructions to stay wide seem to be the best option if you want to use wide men, at least from what I noticed. They cross, overlap and underlap with the wide defenders well and score as well. Seems like best of both worlds, at least on the wings.
In attack, I haven't had much success with anything other than AF's. I did use an Attacking DLF with some success, paired with an AF.
IWB's seem to dominate again this year, but I have had some success with attacking full backs instructed to sit narrower and cut inside.
Just some of my observations so far this year.
Like Zaz posted earlier is what Im seeing in results as well, that its weird / interesting and frustrating at the same time that the same tactic can put you 18th in the testing league one run and then in another run you are 3rd.
This is what I experienced in my testing runs as well that one run I was champions with 86 points in the PL, the next I had 90 points and I ended 3rd.
I dont have the testing league available to me so I cant keep testing stuff as I dont have enough knowledge to set up a league like that.
Hope you find something interesting that works >consistenyly< @ZaZ !