It's quite possible it doesn't make any difference how many players are in the wall. Not like there are a bunch of free kicks hitting or going through the wall, not on highlights at least.
Well, i am not really playing at the moment the game it self (gonna do that when i will finish ideas about the tactics :P). Depends if your team is good or not but there are many tactics that you can combo in like 424 can go easily with 4231 or 433, if you are facing a elite team. Or if you have a really good RPM/Regista you can use it instead of Volante. Just few examples
gohan said: what OI u use? i play on iphone so i just copy all of them manually. so far is very good Expand
Depends, you usually want to use them to focus to the players that build up the game for the opposition, just use them if you really are in deepwater and can't get the ball at all
I am using the tactic training on pre-season and two games low load for whole season,i have to find a better routing for pre-season, i am just testin those are from a chinese player.
Odd one this, for me the tactic seems to perform better before full familiarity. Starts well with plenty of goals and clean sheets but over time most games finish 3-3, 5-4 etc. Anyone else noticed this?
Changingman said: Odd one this, for me the tactic seems to perform better before full familiarity. Starts well with plenty of goals and clean sheets but over time most games finish 3-3, 5-4 etc. Anyone else noticed this? Expand
Most likely IA starting to be aware about you, so you need to change things up and fit-up the best player to fit the tactic
Delicious said: I am using the tactic training on pre-season and two games low load for whole season,i have to find a better routing for pre-season, i am just testin those are from a chinese player. Expand
How did you set up your Rest screen? just default?
Yarema said: Rest screen is the default settings for training intensity, when it's set to automatic. Like double intensity at full condition. Expand
I didn't touch those stuff on previous I was putting double intensity if they were full green or last option, on this one seem not really necessary, I am checking even how their CA is increasing with low facilities and normal coaches
Hey big fan of your tactics here your set pieces are amazing! I like two strikers formations esp with a supporting striker but I see all tactics use two AF's now. Any luck with a more classic striker partnership like DLF(s)/AF with a more creative type together with a pure goalscorer? TF(s)/TF(a) is my dream because you know I'm a Target Person
TargetPerson said: Hey big fan of your tactics here your set pieces are amazing! I like two strikers formations esp with a supporting striker but I see all tactics use two AF's now. Any luck with a more classic striker partnership like DLF(s)/AF with a more creative type together with a pure goalscorer? TF(s)/TF(a) is my dream because you know I'm a Target Person Expand
i guess you can change the role about what is your preference, i am waiting the patch and after some test to understand if i am on the right direction gonna start even to mix some stuff,but sad point is if you want to max out the output of the tactic you are forced to play some "meta" or ever green role (call it whatever you like). So if you wanna just play the higher "tactic" rate that's it. For example if you put TF instead of AF you might lose like 1 point average but if you prefer what you see who cares to be honest.
Delicious said: i guess you can change the role about what is your preference, i am waiting the patch and after some test to understand if i am on the right direction gonna start even to mix some stuff,but sad point is if you want to max out the output of the tactic you are forced to play some "meta" or ever green role (call it whatever you like). So if you wanna just play the higher "tactic" rate that's it. For example if you put TF instead of AF you might lose like 1 point average but if you prefer what you see who cares to be honest.
Oi's seem really impactefull as well this year. Expand
Thanks! I'm ok with AF role for a better performance the important for me is to play big tall strikers My favorite partnership is tall, slow, creative striker + tall, fast, scoring striker (think Zlatan+Haaland) you stil recommend to use both as AF? Also waiting for next patch and your new tactics
TargetPerson said: Thanks! I'm ok with AF role for a better performance the important for me is to play big tall strikers My favorite partnership is tall, slow, creative striker + tall, fast, scoring striker (think Zlatan+Haaland) you stil recommend to use both as AF? Also waiting for next patch and your new tactics Expand
Dude as i said you have to decide whatever you like what you see on the pitch or not, i am not fan of TF because simply putting it AF do everything and better, it is broken? Yes, but major problem of those roles are their hidden passive more then anything. But i have to check it again to be 100% sure after patch. At the very moment the most impactefull thing i see are the Oi's and set pieces. Defensive one are really important
Delicious said: Dude as i said you have to decide whatever you like what you see on the pitch or not, i am not fun of TF because simply putting it AF do everything and better, it is broken? Yes, but major problem of those roles are their hidden passive more then anything. But i have to check it again to be 100% sure after patch. At the very moment the most impactefull thing i see are the Oi's and set pieces. Defensive one are really important Expand
Gotcha. I love TF type of strikers but don't really like TF role in FM either guess I'll keep using those big strikers as AF! I use your set pieces and always work great, haven't used any OIs so far but I'll make sure to try your suggested OIs.
Trying to get this tactic to work on my Leeds save. PS5 version. Currently no joy. Are we able to get some screenshots of the team instructions if possible. I have copied all the individual player instructions and set play routines. Also is the tactical style a clean slate? Or Gegenpress etc
Choseph Ormbu said: Trying to get this tactic to work on my Leeds save. PS5 version. Currently no joy. Are we able to get some screenshots of the team instructions if possible. I have copied all the individual player instructions and set play routines. Also is the tactical style a clean slate? Or Gegenpress etc Expand
But I also had a different version of the tactic with a very low intensity that I used when I had a comfortable lead in matches to save the conditions of the players.
It's quite possible it doesn't make any difference how many players are in the wall. Not like there are a bunch of free kicks hitting or going through the wall, not on highlights at least.
What do you do when a BWM gets a yellow card, since you cannot remove tackle harder from them?
atomzero236 said: What do you do when a BWM gets a yellow card, since you cannot remove tackle harder from them?
You can easily change it on DM or bwm (su) but if you keep get stuck-in doesn't really matter
Do you change anything depending on the opponent? @Delicious
Gpassosbh said: Do you change anything depending on the opponent? @Delicious
Well, i am not really playing at the moment the game it self (gonna do that when i will finish ideas about the tactics :P). Depends if your team is good or not but there are many tactics that you can combo in like 424 can go easily with 4231 or 433, if you are facing a elite team.
Or if you have a really good RPM/Regista you can use it instead of Volante.
Just few examples
what OI u use? i play on iphone so i just copy all of them manually. so far is very good
gohan said: what OI u use? i play on iphone so i just copy all of them manually. so far is very good
Depends, you usually want to use them to focus to the players that build up the game for the opposition, just use them if you really are in deepwater and can't get the ball at all
This tactics is awesome
I won EPL with Brighton
Last match my team was destroyed by tottenham but liverpool lose too.
any suggestions on training? Or just leave them to assistant manager?
I am using the tactic training on pre-season and two games low load for whole season,i have to find a better routing for pre-season, i am just testin those are from a chinese player.
Grimlock said:
Is this the same on the other side or is that literally it in terms of PI’s?
Lbsaligh said: Is this the same on the other side or is that literally it in terms of PI’s?
It's mirrored yes
Odd one this, for me the tactic seems to perform better before full familiarity. Starts well with plenty of goals and clean sheets but over time most games finish 3-3, 5-4 etc. Anyone else noticed this?
Changingman said: Odd one this, for me the tactic seems to perform better before full familiarity. Starts well with plenty of goals and clean sheets but over time most games finish 3-3, 5-4 etc. Anyone else noticed this?
Most likely IA starting to be aware about you, so you need to change things up and fit-up the best player to fit the tactic
Delicious said: I am using the tactic training on pre-season and two games low load for whole season,i have to find a better routing for pre-season, i am just testin those are from a chinese player.
How did you set up your Rest screen? just default?
Riino said: How did you set up your Rest screen? just default?
What do you mean by rest screen? Toworrow gonna post how I setup it
Rest screen is the default settings for training intensity, when it's set to automatic. Like double intensity at full condition.
Yarema said: Rest screen is the default settings for training intensity, when it's set to automatic. Like double intensity at full condition.
I didn't touch those stuff on previous I was putting double intensity if they were full green or last option, on this one seem not really necessary, I am checking even how their CA is increasing with low facilities and normal coaches
Hey big fan of your tactics here your set pieces are amazing! I like two strikers formations esp with a supporting striker but I see all tactics use two AF's now. Any luck with a more classic striker partnership like DLF(s)/AF with a more creative type together with a pure goalscorer? TF(s)/TF(a) is my dream because you know I'm a Target Person
TargetPerson said: Hey big fan of your tactics here your set pieces are amazing! I like two strikers formations esp with a supporting striker but I see all tactics use two AF's now. Any luck with a more classic striker partnership like DLF(s)/AF with a more creative type together with a pure goalscorer? TF(s)/TF(a) is my dream because you know I'm a Target Person
i guess you can change the role about what is your preference, i am waiting the patch and after some test to understand if i am on the right direction gonna start even to mix some stuff,but sad point is if you want to max out the output of the tactic you are forced to play some "meta" or ever green role (call it whatever you like). So if you wanna just play the higher "tactic" rate that's it.
For example if you put TF instead of AF you might lose like 1 point average but if you prefer what you see who cares to be honest.
Oi's seem really impactefull as well this year.
Delicious said: i guess you can change the role about what is your preference, i am waiting the patch and after some test to understand if i am on the right direction gonna start even to mix some stuff,but sad point is if you want to max out the output of the tactic you are forced to play some "meta" or ever green role (call it whatever you like). So if you wanna just play the higher "tactic" rate that's it.
My favorite partnership is tall, slow, creative striker + tall, fast, scoring striker (think Zlatan+Haaland) you stil recommend to use both as AF? Also waiting for next patch and your new tactics 
For example if you put TF instead of AF you might lose like 1 point average but if you prefer what you see who cares to be honest.
Oi's seem really impactefull as well this year.
Thanks! I'm ok with AF role for a better performance the important for me is to play big tall strikers
TargetPerson said: Thanks! I'm ok with AF role for a better performance the important for me is to play big tall strikers
My favorite partnership is tall, slow, creative striker + tall, fast, scoring striker (think Zlatan+Haaland) you stil recommend to use both as AF? Also waiting for next patch and your new tactics 
Dude as i said you have to decide whatever you like what you see on the pitch or not, i am not fan of TF because simply putting it AF do everything and better, it is broken? Yes, but major problem of those roles are their hidden passive more then anything.
But i have to check it again to be 100% sure after patch. At the very moment the most impactefull thing i see are the Oi's and set pieces. Defensive one are really important
Delicious said: Dude as i said you have to decide whatever you like what you see on the pitch or not, i am not fun of TF because simply putting it AF do everything and better, it is broken? Yes, but major problem of those roles are their hidden passive more then anything.
But i have to check it again to be 100% sure after patch. At the very moment the most impactefull thing i see are the Oi's and set pieces. Defensive one are really important
Gotcha. I love TF type of strikers but don't really like TF role in FM either guess I'll keep using those big strikers as AF! I use your set pieces and always work great, haven't used any OIs so far but I'll make sure to try your suggested OIs.
Trying to get this tactic to work on my Leeds save. PS5 version. Currently no joy.
Are we able to get some screenshots of the team instructions if possible. I have copied all the individual player instructions and set play routines.
Also is the tactical style a clean slate? Or Gegenpress etc
Choseph Ormbu said: Trying to get this tactic to work on my Leeds save. PS5 version. Currently no joy.
Are we able to get some screenshots of the team instructions if possible. I have copied all the individual player instructions and set play routines.
Also is the tactical style a clean slate? Or Gegenpress etc
TIs
PIs
Set Pieces
https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/20666/
please help me, always lead like 2-0 ended up 2-3 or i lead 4-0 and suddenly 4-3. even i lead 4-0 i cant relax watch my team
Tsubasa said: Yes, I didn't change the mentality.
But I also had a different version of the tactic with a very low intensity that I used when I had a comfortable lead in matches to save the conditions of the players.
Also, I removed "Get Stuck In" and used only "Tackle Harder" PI - https://fm-arena.com/thread/3240-get-stuck-in-ti-vs-tackle-harder-pi/
you use OI? what the best tactic u use so far?
I am testing those ois,while waiting for the patch :
there is not a "best" tactic or stuff like that, or you decide to follow the meta or you adapt what you like to see to your team.
Delicious said: I am testing those ois,while waiting for the patch :
there is not a "best" tactic or stuff like that, or you decide to follow the meta or you adapt what you like to see to your team.
I've put it for a test.
Let's see how it'll do.
Zippo said: I've put it for a test.
Let's see how it'll do.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/4534-424-extreme-volts-iv-opposition-instructions/