4123 Extreme Diamond undervolt XIII

4123 Extreme Diamond undervolt XIII

Rebuilding 3 strikers tactics


P.S. I just saw that some images are wrong, the next test would be with bwm so i did even spoiler that xD..

Tornado time <3

This patch for me is something like that :

Please some player instructions for us on  console...

Turboheh said: Please some player instructions for us on  console... Expand

I have a question. So this tactic outscores the previous no.1 by 4 points. and ofc getting points is much harder in these tests than in a normal game. So how does a 4 point difference translate in an actual game.

And ofc, congratulations on regaining top stop!

Looking at the table, more strikers seem to mean more goals. so more points.

Wow looks good. If I wanted to sdjust so a stricker was target for corners will that work? If so which Striker to target?

THanks

Very very impressive

Floppyaams said: I have a question. So this tactic outscores the previous no.1 by 4 points. and ofc getting points is much harder in these tests than in a normal game. So how does a 4 point difference translate in an actual game.

And ofc, congratulations on regaining top stop! Expand

In game you don't really care about those stuff tbh, you can win anything that scored 48+(i did with something that here scored 45 or 47 i don't remember exatcly), you will just need a bit more time to develop your players etc. Training,OIs play a big part if you suceed or not. On the test for me even 1 point count, but here we are misuring the size of our ....

So, just play what you like to watch,that can work ofc, i prefer to play tactics with 1 striker and make him shine,but that's me

Floppyaams said: I have a question. So this tactic outscores the previous no.1 by 4 points. and ofc getting points is much harder in these tests than in a normal game. So how does a 4 point difference translate in an actual game.

And ofc, congratulations on regaining top stop! Expand

The result still can go down after it gets 5,760 matches test

I'd say a 4 points difference is nothing, just look at these tests:

https://fm-arena.com/thread/2980-game-changing-player-attributes/

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3293-what-it-takes-to-dominate-epl-with-bournemouth/

As you can see FM is more about having the best attributes than having the best tactic

Pip said: Wow looks good. If I wanted to sdjust so a stricker was target for corners will that work? If so which Striker to target?

THanks Expand

Just check which central defender stand on the near post and far post and then replace him with your striker.

Lapidus said: The result still can go down after it gets 5,760 matches test

I'd say a 4 points difference is nothing, just look at these tests:

https://fm-arena.com/thread/2980-game-changing-player-attributes/

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3293-what-it-takes-to-dominate-epl-with-bournemouth/

As you can see FM is more about having the best attributes than having the best tactic Expand

It's exact, but if you start to develop players with the best tactic in equal conditions, so you start with 4 points in front of everyone

Falbravv said: It's exact, but if you start to develop players with the best tactic in equal conditions, so you start with 4 points in front of everyone Expand

https://fm-arena.com/thread/2713-10-944-matches-tested-fm-rng-measured/

if you don't play with the strongest team in the league and if we take take a standard season of 38 matches then there's like 25 pts RNG so you really won't notice that 4 points difference, it will be overwhelmed with the RNG

My poor poor IFs can't compete against regular AFs

Lapidus said: https://fm-arena.com/thread/2713-10-944-matches-tested-fm-rng-measured/

if you don't play with the strongest team in the league and if we take take a standard season of 38 matches then there's like 25 pts RNG so you really won't notice that 4 points difference, it will be overwhelmed with the RNG Expand

If i can give you my opinion, it's just how you see all this results. For me in a testing league with froze elements, i think 4 points is very efficient.

I know in game you can go far away from this, but the starter pack is (for me) obviously better.

but it's just an opinion, everyone play FM as he likes

Falbravv said: If i can give you my opinion, it's just how you see all this results. For me in a testing league with froze elements, i think 4 points is very efficient.

I know in game you can go far away from this, but the starter pack is (for me) obviously better.

but it's just an opinion, everyone play FM as he likes Expand

That's why you need good OIs and Training to try to reduce the RNG and away games at the moment are like a coin flip but with the difference is always going to the side that the Home team decided :P

Thank you for your answer. So in effect, any tactic that scored 50 or above is really good in a normal game, and player attribute triumphs tactics. And I am sorry, but what is a OI? And also, how can training reduce the RNG of away games?

Floppyaams said: Thank you for your answer. So in effect, any tactic that scored 50 or above is really good in a normal game, and player attribute triumphs tactics. And I am sorry, but what is a OI? And also, how can training reduce the RNG of away games? Expand

Any tactic with 59 points or above (which is the lowest i've tried in 23) breaks the game a little, or at least my suspension of disbelief, given that i can pick one of the worst 5 teams in leagues like Spain, France, Portugal or Italy and consistently qualify for the champions league or Europa league barely missing champions on my first season.

Floppyaams said: And I am sorry, but what is a OI? Expand

Some people believe OIs can help and some people think it's a placebo

Btw, the OIs have been tested - https://fm-arena.com/thread/4534-424-extreme-volts-iv-opposition-instructions/

Floppyaams said: Thank you for your answer. So in effect, any tactic that scored 50 or above is really good in a normal game, and player attribute triumphs tactics. And I am sorry, but what is a OI? And also, how can training reduce the RNG of away games? Expand

Pick any tactic that fits your style and that scored above 58 points and you're good to go

50 points is a bit low and there's a lot of tactics for any taste that score above 58 points.

Floppyaams said: Thank you for your answer. So in effect, any tactic that scored 50 or above is really good in a normal game, and player attribute triumphs tactics. And I am sorry, but what is a OI? And also, how can training reduce the RNG of away games? Expand

First of all, you need to understand that, if you are playing(I play 3D really full of highlights for example, to check things and tweaks live), if you choose between super mega 100gibapoints (just trying to say optimizated), mean you will have less work to do in game, like tweaks etc, i mean you can force a tactic into any team, but doesn't mean that those players will fit in it, so you need to buy-sell new and old players. Here on Arena you can find the most and easy guides and test about how player streght impact in game. So if you have let's say taste like me and prefer 1 striker, you can go for 4231/451(41221)/4141/3421 etc. i mean there is a list and you can choose between them.
Before this patch,i've used Zaz's training, CAE and Cadoni, all of them were boosting the players,if they grow faster means you will reach faster that point that the RNG can't  fight you back because your players are better overall and fit even the tactic you've choosen or created.
With Zaz's training one player of mine did 12 CA in like 1 year(that's alot),i won't give you numbers like 10% power (it might be even more),but you will understand how important training is once you use them. About OIs,first time in my life i am even using them, they simple provide (if you make them correct)a overall boost,i mean if you watch Vujevic,his tactics never score more then 50-55 but he do god run etc with underdogs. He even optimizated his player shortlist,there is tons of stuff he even opened my eyes about i was really to much focused on CA/PA and wasn't really looking at the right stats sometimes. 


Hope is clear


Edit :

O.I. means Opposition Instructions

Thank you for such a detailed write-up! And thank you to everyone else who replied as well!

Delicious said: First of all, you need to understand that, if you are playing(I play 3D really full of highlights for example, to check things and tweaks live), if you choose between super mega 100gibapoints (just trying to say optimizated), mean you will have less work to do in game, like tweaks etc, i mean you can force a tactic into any team, but doesn't mean that those players will fit in it, so you need to buy-sell new and old players. Here on Arena you can find the most and easy guides and test about how player streght impact in game. So if you have let's say taste like me and prefer 1 striker, you can go for 4231/451(41221)/4141/3421 etc. i mean there is a list and you can choose between them.
Before this patch,i've used Zaz's training, CAE and Cadoni, all of them were boosting the players,if they grow faster means you will reach faster that point that the RNG can't  fight you back because your players are better overall and fit even the tactic you've choosen or created.
With Zaz's training one player of mine did 12 CA in like 1 year(that's alot),i won't give you numbers like 10% power (it might be even more),but you will understand how important training is once you use them. About OIs,first time in my life i am even using them, they simple provide (if you make them correct)a overall boost,i mean if you watch Vujevic,his tactics never score more then 50-55 but he do god run etc with underdogs. He even optimizated his player shortlist,there is tons of stuff he even opened my eyes about i was really to much focused on CA/PA and wasn't really looking at the right stats sometimes. 

Hope is clear Expand

Hey where can i find ZAZ training schedules? Thanks

lee5010 said: Hey where can i find ZAZ training schedules? Thanks Expand

I don't know if he did reworked it for the new patch... but here you go : https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/20485/

Follow the instructions as well

Delicious said: I don't know if he did reworked it for the new patch... but here you go : https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/20485/

Follow the instructions as well Expand

Thank you!

congrats!

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