thanks for this tactic! I switched to it from Brazilian Box recently. Playing 2d extended highlights.
What I noticed.
Pretty stiff when it comes to flexibility / react to 0-1 or leading 2-1 and avoiding receiving last 15 mins. Attacking mentality feels off compared to balanced, which is weird.
The team took quite some time to get used to it. I mean the familiarity was full but only after nearly one season in 2D it started to look appealing while attacking and recently I get many 6-0 / 7-1 even against Top Teams in Semi Final CL for instance. First season I won but mostly by a smaller margin.
Compared to Brazilian box it is way less spectacular. Fewer extended scenes but they are mostly a goal once shown.
Compared to Brazilian Box I find it more difficult to find suitable players, or at least it´s safe to say that DM and CM will mostly avg at 7.0-7.2 on a top team by the end of the season. Also IF right side is less effective than IF left and the left one would also be the strongest player in the game most of the time.
My Game:
4th Season with Real Madrid in the Year 2034 Balance 1.001 Billion € Champion of all cups / leagues B team Champion of Division B Yearly Transfer balance 400M+ I develop young players to the age of 25 (5 + 3 year Contracts)and then sell them for fortunes just before they want their 200k+ weekly contracts Salaries 3.8m including B+C+Youth team (all benchmarks in their leagues) where I buy talents around 5-10m each season. Constantly rotating players and none receives "Star Player" or "Regular Starter" status. Chemistry always excellent, including lots of individual talk in training.
-> obviously I am an economics guy haha! Highly curious if it is still like in FM2023, that at some point over 1.8 Billion the balance reduces or gets taken away (President news - took off money of balance)
Conclusion 8/10 overall:
Highly rewarding regarding results, but less entertaining when you play 2D or 3D.
Thanks a lot for this tactic and congrats to the crown <3
bwig said: Also IF right side is less effective than IF left and the left one would also be the strongest player in the game most of the time. Expand This was something I noticed too and I think it's because of the CM that in the attack he enters the space where the IF would move. In FM24 the IF and IW when another player enters their position in attack (ie AMCR/L) then they remain more wide and act somewhat like Wingers.
not working on the new patch or is it just me? finished with brighton 3rd, started new season with the new patch and standing 17th after 20 games and a better squad
alberfb88 said: not working on the new patch or is it just me? finished with brighton 3rd, started new season with the new patch and standing 17th after 20 games and a better squad Expand
Maybe they nerfed the WB(a) overlap madness, but without testing it is just an assumption
alberfb88 said: not working on the new patch or is it just me? finished with brighton 3rd, started new season with the new patch and standing 17th after 20 games and a better squad Expand
Yeah i was replied and confirmed in the Si forum that basically there is no change in attacking movement and stuff like that, so basically set pieces and headers inside the box for defending some stuff like that were the changes in ME which can affect something metawise
keithb said: It still performed excellently for me. First season in the championship with Truro and we won it. Played the full season on 24.2 Expand
I tested it on my end, it's still good but I wouldn't say it's the best, there are better tactics. I am super impressed by the result I got on 424 Death Star by @Delicious and of course the one and only @A Smile 424 deformation II in the current patch. Please try those tactics to see the difference
sponsorkindest said: I tested it on my end, it's still good but I wouldn't say it's the best, there are better tactics. I am super impressed by the result I got on 424 Death Star by @Delicious and of course the one and only @A Smile 424 deformation II in the current patch. Please try those tactics to see the difference
Its still very good for me, Truro first season in the EPL. We are 4th in the January Window, spent £17m in total. Half my starting eleven are free transfers.
keithb said: Its still very good for me, Truro first season in the EPL. We are 4th in the January Window, spent £17m in total. Half my starting eleven are free transfers. Expand
That's awesome! In-game any tactic that's more than a score of 50 should do fine, if your recruitment is on point.
sponsorkindest said: That's awesome! In-game any tactic that's more than a score of 50 should do fine, if your recruitment is on point. Expand
Using python and my own ratings based on the tests on here, recruitment has been great. I've only just got my own scouts as before no one with decent attributes would join.
keithb said: Using python and my own ratings based on the tests on here, recruitment has been great. I've only just got my own scouts as before no one with decent attributes would join. Expand
Good to know that more people are using python for recruitment. Since using python with proper rating system, based on attribute testing done in this platform is OP. Generally, I will be looking at the player pool who has been scouted rather than looking at everyone who is willing to join my club. This keeps the game a bit more challenging, thought, like sharing this tip with you
sponsorkindest said: Good to know that more people are using python for recruitment. Since using python with proper rating system, based on attribute testing done in this platform is OP. Generally, I will be looking at the player pool who has been scouted rather than looking at everyone who is willing to join my club. This keeps the game a bit more challenging, thought, like sharing this tip with you Expand
Yes this is a good point. I am already thinking how to make the game more challenging. This could include my own tactics, though its hard to forget what works well in the match engine, and as you have pointed out scouted only players. My starting scouts had 2 or 3 i think for judging ability and potential, although obviously this doesnt matter when using phython. I think this is far superior to genie scout which I find difficult to weight.
I just thought I would give this new method a go, but champions league first season with Truo is probably a bit too much!!
keithb said: Yes this is a good point. I am already thinking how to make the game more challenging. This could include my own tactics, though its hard to forget what works well in the match engine, and as you have pointed out scouted only players. My starting scouts had 2 or 3 i think for judging ability and potential, although obviously this doesnt matter when using phython. I think this is far superior to genie scout which I find difficult to weight.
I just thought I would give this new method a go, but champions league first season with Truo is probably a bit too much!! Expand
That's what happens when we use meta tactics and good recruitment. So once you get comfortable with scouted only player based recruitment (trust me its very difficult when compared to player willing to join your club specially if you play with large database), you can bump up the difficulty by playing as DOF and let your assistant manager come with tactics. Lets be real right, their tactics suck but not by a lot specifically if you go with some one who does pressing based tactics, if you look at the preset tactic testing in FM-Arena they score around 43 (Gegenpress based preset tactics - https://fm-arena.com/thread/7499-fm24-preset-4231-gegenpress/) that's more than enuf to win the game. I have attached a screen shot of the criteria I use to identify good assistant manger. Hope this helps! This is a unique way to play the game, but it's very fun one you understand the game mechanics very well to keep up the difficulty. Combine this with Journeyman, you got yourself long term fun
sponsorkindest said: That's what happens when we use meta tactics and good recruitment. So once you get comfortable with scouted only player based recruitment (trust me its very difficult when compared to player willing to join your club specially if you play with large database), you can bump up the difficulty by playing as DOF and let your assistant manager come with tactics. Lets be real right, their tactics suck but not by a lot specifically if you go with some one who does pressing based tactics, if you look at the preset tactic testing in FM-Arena they score around 43 (Gegenpress based preset tactics - https://fm-arena.com/thread/7499-fm24-preset-4231-gegenpress/) that's more than enuf to win the game. I have attached a screen shot of the criteria I use to identify good assistant manger. Hope this helps! This is a unique way to play the game, but it's very fun one you understand the game mechanics very well to keep up the difficulty. Combine this with Journeyman, you got yourself long term fun Expand
Thanks for the detailed reply and screenshot. The problem I have with assistant manager is the same as billy bean in moneyball haha. He doesn't play the players I've bought!!!
pixar said: This tactic attacking mentality been tried as well?
https://fm-arena.com/thread/7359-424-quadrowave-x-4-att/
thanks for this tactic! I switched to it from Brazilian Box recently. Playing 2d extended highlights.
What I noticed.
Pretty stiff when it comes to flexibility / react to 0-1 or leading 2-1 and avoiding receiving last 15 mins. Attacking mentality feels off compared to balanced, which is weird.
The team took quite some time to get used to it. I mean the familiarity was full but only after nearly one season in 2D it started to look appealing while attacking and recently I get many 6-0 / 7-1 even against Top Teams in Semi Final CL for instance. First season I won but mostly by a smaller margin.
Compared to Brazilian box it is way less spectacular. Fewer extended scenes but they are mostly a goal once shown.
Compared to Brazilian Box I find it more difficult to find suitable players, or at least it´s safe to say that DM and CM will mostly avg at 7.0-7.2 on a top team by the end of the season. Also IF right side is less effective than IF left and the left one would also be the strongest player in the game most of the time.
My Game:
4th Season with Real Madrid in the Year 2034
Balance 1.001 Billion €
Champion of all cups / leagues
B team Champion of Division B
Yearly Transfer balance 400M+
I develop young players to the age of 25 (5 + 3 year Contracts)and then sell them for fortunes just before they want their 200k+ weekly contracts
Salaries 3.8m including B+C+Youth team (all benchmarks in their leagues) where I buy talents around 5-10m each season.
Constantly rotating players and none receives "Star Player" or "Regular Starter" status.
Chemistry always excellent, including lots of individual talk in training.
-> obviously I am an economics guy haha! Highly curious if it is still like in FM2023, that at some point over 1.8 Billion the balance reduces or gets taken away (President news - took off money of balance)
Conclusion 8/10 overall:
Highly rewarding regarding results, but less entertaining when you play 2D or 3D.
Thanks a lot for this tactic and congrats to the crown <3
bwig said: Also IF right side is less effective than IF left and the left one would also be the strongest player in the game most of the time.
This was something I noticed too and I think it's because of the CM that in the attack he enters the space where the IF would move. In FM24 the IF and IW when another player enters their position in attack (ie AMCR/L) then they remain more wide and act somewhat like Wingers.
Can I have screenshots for player instructions
Instructions
Markfm23 said: Can I have screenshots for player instructions
There you go mate
TOP TACTIC !! BRAVOO
Do we use any OI or touchline shouts?
max 737 said: Can anyone advise how to upload set piece routines in the game, this is the knap set piece routine
hello what are the best set pieces routines and where to download? thanks
great tactic btw
max 737 said: Do we use any OI or touchline shouts?
i use demand more when im not happy with play or result no oi
Tsigalko said: hello what are the best set pieces routines and where to download? thanks
great tactic btw
I have found these two, not sure which is better beta is the Knap one
max 737 said: I have found these two, not sure which is better beta is the Knap one
thanks man!
not working on the new patch or is it just me?
finished with brighton 3rd, started new season with the new patch and standing 17th after 20 games and a better squad
alberfb88 said: not working on the new patch or is it just me?
finished with brighton 3rd, started new season with the new patch and standing 17th after 20 games and a better squad
Maybe they nerfed the WB(a) overlap madness, but without testing it is just an assumption
alberfb88 said: not working on the new patch or is it just me?
finished with brighton 3rd, started new season with the new patch and standing 17th after 20 games and a better squad
Seems ok
keithb said: Seems ok
Yeah i was replied and confirmed in the Si forum that basically there is no change in attacking movement and stuff like that, so basically set pieces and headers inside the box for defending some stuff like that were the changes in ME which can affect something metawise
What a downgrade
Still working for me, nice tac
Boy what a nerf 11 points ...
Damn!
sponsorkindest said: Damn!
It still performed excellently for me. First season in the championship with Truro and we won it. Played the full season on 24.2
keithb said: It still performed excellently for me. First season in the championship with Truro and we won it. Played the full season on 24.2
I tested it on my end, it's still good but I wouldn't say it's the best, there are better tactics. I am super impressed by the result I got on 424 Death Star by @Delicious and of course the one and only @A Smile 424 deformation II in the current patch. Please try those tactics to see the difference
https://fm-arena.com/thread/6879-424-deformation-ii/
https://fm-arena.com/thread/6986-424-death-star/
sponsorkindest said: I tested it on my end, it's still good but I wouldn't say it's the best, there are better tactics. I am super impressed by the result I got on 424 Death Star by @Delicious and of course the one and only @A Smile 424 deformation II in the current patch. Please try those tactics to see the difference
https://fm-arena.com/thread/6879-424-deformation-ii/
https://fm-arena.com/thread/6986-424-death-star/
Its still very good for me, Truro first season in the EPL. We are 4th in the January Window, spent £17m in total. Half my starting eleven are free transfers.
keithb said: Its still very good for me, Truro first season in the EPL. We are 4th in the January Window, spent £17m in total. Half my starting eleven are free transfers.
That's awesome! In-game any tactic that's more than a score of 50 should do fine, if your recruitment is on point.
sponsorkindest said: That's awesome! In-game any tactic that's more than a score of 50 should do fine, if your recruitment is on point.
Using python and my own ratings based on the tests on here, recruitment has been great. I've only just got my own scouts as before no one with decent attributes would join.
keithb said: Using python and my own ratings based on the tests on here, recruitment has been great. I've only just got my own scouts as before no one with decent attributes would join.
Good to know that more people are using python for recruitment. Since using python with proper rating system, based on attribute testing done in this platform is OP. Generally, I will be looking at the player pool who has been scouted rather than looking at everyone who is willing to join my club. This keeps the game a bit more challenging, thought, like sharing this tip with you
sponsorkindest said: Good to know that more people are using python for recruitment. Since using python with proper rating system, based on attribute testing done in this platform is OP. Generally, I will be looking at the player pool who has been scouted rather than looking at everyone who is willing to join my club. This keeps the game a bit more challenging, thought, like sharing this tip with you
Yes this is a good point. I am already thinking how to make the game more challenging. This could include my own tactics, though its hard to forget what works well in the match engine, and as you have pointed out scouted only players. My starting scouts had 2 or 3 i think for judging ability and potential, although obviously this doesnt matter when using phython. I think this is far superior to genie scout which I find difficult to weight.
I just thought I would give this new method a go, but champions league first season with Truo is probably a bit too much!!
keithb said: Yes this is a good point. I am already thinking how to make the game more challenging. This could include my own tactics, though its hard to forget what works well in the match engine, and as you have pointed out scouted only players. My starting scouts had 2 or 3 i think for judging ability and potential, although obviously this doesnt matter when using phython. I think this is far superior to genie scout which I find difficult to weight.
I just thought I would give this new method a go, but champions league first season with Truo is probably a bit too much!!
That's what happens when we use meta tactics and good recruitment. So once you get comfortable with scouted only player based recruitment (trust me its very difficult when compared to player willing to join your club specially if you play with large database), you can bump up the difficulty by playing as DOF and let your assistant manager come with tactics. Lets be real right, their tactics suck but not by a lot specifically if you go with some one who does pressing based tactics, if you look at the preset tactic testing in FM-Arena they score around 43 (Gegenpress based preset tactics - https://fm-arena.com/thread/7499-fm24-preset-4231-gegenpress/) that's more than enuf to win the game. I have attached a screen shot of the criteria I use to identify good assistant manger. Hope this helps! This is a unique way to play the game, but it's very fun one you understand the game mechanics very well to keep up the difficulty. Combine this with Journeyman, you got yourself long term fun
sponsorkindest said: That's what happens when we use meta tactics and good recruitment. So once you get comfortable with scouted only player based recruitment (trust me its very difficult when compared to player willing to join your club specially if you play with large database), you can bump up the difficulty by playing as DOF and let your assistant manager come with tactics. Lets be real right, their tactics suck but not by a lot specifically if you go with some one who does pressing based tactics, if you look at the preset tactic testing in FM-Arena they score around 43 (Gegenpress based preset tactics - https://fm-arena.com/thread/7499-fm24-preset-4231-gegenpress/) that's more than enuf to win the game. I have attached a screen shot of the criteria I use to identify good assistant manger. Hope this helps! This is a unique way to play the game, but it's very fun one you understand the game mechanics very well to keep up the difficulty. Combine this with Journeyman, you got yourself long term fun
Thanks for the detailed reply and screenshot. The problem I have with assistant manager is the same as billy bean in moneyball haha. He doesn't play the players I've bought!!!