Katana 4231 104p v3.1

tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9024-katana-4231-100p-v3/

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Mentality to attacking

wow well done

King? Or 4k will kill it? )

LOVE IT, finally a 4231 that could beat 4222

can someone provide player instructions please

The Beast said: can someone provide player instructions please Expand

here you go

Grimlock said: here you go

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thank you mate

Yup, 4231 shape just loves Attacking mentality

A quick test with Man Utd

Confirmed we have a new king at 4k

West Ham, predicted 10th

Holidaying till the end of the 1st season

@CBP87 are you thinking trying without "Dribble More" on FBs or combination with "Underlaps" instead of "Overlaps" or neither?
Last tweaks that make me wonder if 4231 could be improved anymore or not, thank you!

Gianaa9 said: @CBP87 are you thinking trying without "Dribble More" on FBs or combination with "Underlaps" instead of "Overlaps" or neither?
Last tweaks that make me wonder if 4231 could be improved anymore or not, thank you! Expand

I've already done some more testing with balanced mentality and another with underlaps but can't upload them yet, will upload later today

Markizio said: West Ham, predicted 10th

Holidaying till the end of the 1st season







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Thanks for testing mate, very good result with West Ham

Milakus said: A quick test with Man Utd




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Thanka for testing pal, a double with United, not bad at all

What about a defensive midf combo of bwm def with vol att? What do you guys think?

alex said: What about a defensive midf combo of bwm def with vol att? What do you guys think? Expand

I personally think the double pivot of 2 DMs is better but give it a whirl and let us know how you get on

Here's my result with Bournemouth, one of the weakest team in EPL, no offense to the supporters

Predicted, 17th

Tsubasa said: Here's my result with Bournemouth, one of the weakest team in EPL, no offense to the supporters

Predicted, 17th






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@Gianaa9

These are the ones I will be uploading tonight hopefully

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Underlap -

CBP87 said: I personally think the double pivot of 2 DMs is better but give it a whirl and let us know how you get on Expand

Have you considered testing 2 BWM-S instead of 2 DM-S and SS instead of AM? Perhaps, BWM will provide a slightly better option? And also, have you thought about testing force opposition outside/inside and block crosses?

Sane said: Have you considered testing 2 BWM-S instead of 2 DM-S and SS instead of AM? Perhaps, BWM will provide a slightly better option? And also, have you thought about testing force opposition outside/inside and block crosses? Expand

forcing opposition outside/inside doesn't seem to be working, well not in my tests anyways. It leaving them options blank always seem to produce better results defensively.

In regards to the BWM, I've not tried it but I'm not a big fan of roles where the players wander, so roles like BWM, RPM, BBM.

Ill test it and share the results with you

CBP87 said: @Gianaa9

These are the ones I will be uploading tonight hopefully

Balanced -






Underlap -




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well done! not so hopeful about balanced one, cause attacking mentality showed better results almost everytime, but so curious about Underlaps or even without both Underlaps and Overlaps. I was wondering also if Dribble More on FBs could be positive or not, cause often they make risky passes to DMs losing the ball in open spaces for the opponents (so in this cases i'd prefer them to dribble past the opponent instead of trying passes) but when it comes to pass to IFs in possession phase i'd like to have less dribble attempts by defenders.

By the way very good job, we'll see!

Luton test incoming...

Gianaa9 said: well done! not so hopeful about balanced one, cause attacking mentality showed better results almost everytime, but so curious about Underlaps or even without both Underlaps and Overlaps. I was wondering also if Dribble More on FBs could be positive or not, cause often they make risky passes to DMs losing the ball in open spaces for the opponents (so in this cases i'd prefer them to dribble past the opponent instead of trying passes) but when it comes to pass to IFs in possession phase i'd like to have less dribble attempts by defenders.

By the way very good job, we'll see! Expand

Yeah I don't think the balanced one will reach the heights of the attacking mentality but I am intrigued to see how the underlaps work, Interesting point about underlaps/overlaps, will have to test that. I think hold up ball works hand in hand with those options though

CBP87 said: Yeah I don't think the balanced one will reach the heights of the attacking mentality but I am intrigued to see how the underlaps work, Interesting point about underlaps/overlaps, will have to test that. I think hold up ball works hand in hand with those options though Expand

Exactly, that's why i always used Hold Up on all my Box Levante x Pirate tactics, and also in 4231 ones, glad that someone understood its potential ahah

Gianaa9 said: Exactly, that's why i always used Hold Up on all my Box Levante x Pirate tactics, and also in 4231 ones, glad that someone understood its potential ahah Expand

Trying to see if I can get it to work on a 433, proving very tricky

CBP87 said: @Gianaa9

These are the ones I will be uploading tonight hopefully

Balanced -






Underlap -




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i would love to have that team view, any chance ur up to sharing?

Infinity said: i would love to have that team view, any chance ur up to sharing? Expand

There ya go pal but just in case it doesn't work, here is the link for it mate https://www.fmscout.com/a-fmscout-essential-fm24-views.html