Ajax said: Good morning, Do you use O.I for this tactic? Do you use set pieces? Expand
Morning,
I don't use OIs and I leave set pieces to the AM. You can add set pieces to it though. There is a thread on here where someone has tested the set pieces doing the rounds and have created a table with the results. I think blue routines tapped the table
AlexBote said: super tactic! just one question. The DM role's can be changed without affecting the overall tactic effectiveness? I was thinking of a DLP and a BWM Expand
Changing the roles would impact the effectiveness of the tactic in my opinion, but if you have the players to do it then I would say go for it
National league North. Great tactic. I love to play but don't have a clue about making a tactic so i use created tactics to fill in that gap and i can do the rest.
Also used the Set-Pieces that someone mentioned earlier in this thread. Saw an immediate improvement on set-pieces once included.
The Lone Wanderer said: National league North. Great tactic. I love to play but don't have a clue about making a tactic so i use created tactics to fill in that gap and i can do the rest.
Also used the Set-Pieces that someone mentioned earlier in this thread. Saw an immediate improvement on set-pieces once included.
Thanks for the tactic. Expand
cracking result, what set piece routine did you use?
nurderbvb said: great tactics, thanks man. just wondering, how is a tweak looking like for bringing home a game when leading with 1-2 goals from 70th minute onwards? Expand
I haven't uploaded a tweak of that nature mate as it wouldn't perform well in the test. But I would say reduce your tempo, remove prevent short GK distribution. You pretty much want to remove any instructions that involves your players leaving their designated positions. Try to create a wall that is capable of keeping hold of the ball
i've used this tactic with man utd and i currently sit 6th in the league and am about to get sacked! shot count is crazy high, but i'm losing to liverpool, man cuty, chealsea and each time is 5-0. Defensively this is pretty dire. Are you doing these tests on holiday? it gives you different results
EDIT: I have just conceded 4 goals at home to middlesborough. SOmething isnt right with the defensive element at all
mattw123 said: i've used this tactic with man utd and i currently sit 6th in the league and am about to get sacked! shot count is crazy high, but i'm losing to liverpool, man cuty, chealsea and each time is 5-0. Defensively this is pretty dire. Are you doing these tests on holiday? it gives you different results
EDIT: I have just conceded 4 goals at home to middlesborough. SOmething isnt right with the defensive element at all Expand
As a Bolton fan, that is music to my ears
But in all seriousness, There are no specific "shooting" team instructions and there is only one player instruction, shoot less often, which is applied to the full backs. It sounds like the team are creating the chances but the problem is finishing them. That sounds to me like player quality unfortunately. Look at who is taking the shots and see what you can do to restrict them from shooting.
How are you conceding the goals? is it from set pieces? who is in charge of your set pieces? if it is set pieces then download one of the set piece routines from here https://fm-arena.com/thread/9033-fm-arena-1-21-set-piece-best-hits/ *I'm not saying it is set pieces you're conceding from, just trying to see how you're conceding the goals*
Use data hub to see how the goals are being conceded and try to address them, do you have any screenshots from the games? if you do, can you stick them on here please
mattw123 said: i've used this tactic with man utd and i currently sit 6th in the league and am about to get sacked! shot count is crazy high, but i'm losing to liverpool, man cuty, chealsea and each time is 5-0. Defensively this is pretty dire. Are you doing these tests on holiday? it gives you different results
EDIT: I have just conceded 4 goals at home to middlesborough. SOmething isnt right with the defensive element at all Expand
I have exactly the same feeling, this tactic is very strange, using even the set-pieces that people use it unfortunately doesn't give me total satisfaction in the game.
Ajax said: I have exactly the same feeling, this tactic is very strange, using even the set-pieces that people use it unfortunately doesn't give me total satisfaction in the game. Expand
I know it probably going to come across as me being bias but I have no issues with this tactic, I buy players with good acceleration and pace and I've smashed every league I've used it in
I just registered here to give my feedback on this tactic. I got FM24 in January after skipping FM23, so I looked for a good looking tactic that is in a "classic formation". I found this and used it for my first savegame in FM24 with Chelsea and although they have an expensive but very weird squad at the start and me starting with realistic I saw all them players come and go and had no chance in doing anything about it. I went invincible with Chelsea in the first year with a weird squad and won the league.
Second season I did some changes but didnt feel great about the team I got together (I had trouble finding my way into the new way of how transfers and negotiations work) I won the PL and CL, FA and CC in my second season. I think I did two more seasons with them and won the league each time, FA Cup each time, and went to the CL finale at least one more time.
I am writing all of this only to show how great it works. Thanks mate for making this tactic and sharing it.
Edit: Just because I just read your last post and "smashing every league" is the most fitting way to phrase my experience with it.
Btw. I use OIs because in my Bayern Save that I'm currently in, I absolutely smashed the league but had troubles in the CL. In my Chelsea safe I had used OIs and had non of the troubles and since I started using OIs with Bayern I had less trouble.
RawJah said: I just registered here to give my feedback on this tactic. I got FM24 in January after skipping FM23, so I looked for a good looking tactic that is in a "classic formation". I found this and used it for my first savegame in FM24 with Chelsea and although they have an expensive but very weird squad at the start and me starting with realistic I saw all them players come and go and had no chance in doing anything about it. I went invincible with Chelsea in the first year with a weird squad and won the league.
Second season I did some changes but didnt feel great about the team I got together (I had trouble finding my way into the new way of how transfers and negotiations work) I won the PL and CL, FA and CC in my second season. I think I did two more seasons with them and won the league each time, FA Cup each time, and went to the CL finale at least one more time.
I am writing all of this only to show how great it works. Thanks mate for making this tactic and sharing it.
Edit: Just because I just read your last post and "smashing every league" is the most fitting way to phrase my experience with it.
Btw. I use OIs because in my Bayern Save that I'm currently in, I absolutely smashed the league but had troubles in the CL. In my Chelsea safe I had used OIs and had non of the troubles and since I started using OIs with Bayern I had less trouble. Expand
Sounds like you achieved some fantastic results, appreciate the postive feedback, what OIs did you use for your Bayern save?
CBP87 said: Sounds like you achieved some fantastic results, appreciate the postive feedback, what OIs did you use for your Bayern save? Expand
Wait, I meant that I let my Assistant with the best stats in both tactical attributes do the OIs. Am I meaning something else than you? If so, sorry. I'm german and play in german so I thought thats what meant hahaha
btw and it has nothing to do with the tactic, but I need to get it off my chest. I'm playing FM/CM for more than 20 years now. Yesterday, when I wrote my post I was on a high because I was finishing my season and won the double for the 3rd time in 3 years and all was fun, then I lost the CL finale against PSG in penalties (god damn) and right now I'm having a very unsatisfying summer transfer window and am totally down. Isnt it crazy that this game still does this with us?
RawJah said: Wait, I meant that I let my Assistant with the best stats in both tactical attributes do the OIs. Am I meaning something else than you? If so, sorry. I'm german and play in german so I thought thats what meant hahaha Expand
No that's fine, I get what you mean
RawJah said: btw and it has nothing to do with the tactic, but I need to get it off my chest. I'm playing FM/CM for more than 20 years now. Yesterday, when I wrote my post I was on a high because I was finishing my season and won the double for the 3rd time in 3 years and all was fun, then I lost the CL finale against PSG in penalties (god damn) and right now I'm having a very unsatisfying summer transfer window and am totally down. Isnt it crazy that this game still does this with us? Expand
Yeah its crazy, I've been playing since CM 08/09 but really fell in love with the game when playing 01/02. It's had its claws in me ever since haha. What sort of player are you searching for? Sounds like you don't need to change much in terms of players, Were you the better team in the final?
CBP87 said: Yeah its crazy, I've been playing since CM 08/09 but really fell in love with the game when playing 01/02. It's had its claws in me ever since haha. What sort of player are you searching for? Sounds like you don't need to change much in terms of players, Were you the better team in the final? Expand
We were the slightly better team over the 120 minutes, if i remember correctly. My frustrations in the transfer summer were more rooted that I put myself into a situation where I couldnt really bring anyone in reasonably because I had already signed John Stones, Franck Kessie and Sergey Milinkovic-Savic for free for the summer. I had planned to pull Kimmich from DMC back to DR (for the first time really in that save) kinda saying "Alright Kimmich, you had all the time and chances to play DMC but we never achieved the ultimate goal, you have to go with what I want now". That coincided with Kimmich wanting to explore his options but I refused to sell him because of that (and to throw my plans away). Also I was worried that I wouldnt meet CL-Registration-Rules in full because that Summer meant the end of Neuer, Müller and Gündogan (who left to Saudi after I got him for little money from Barcelona 2 years before, making him the Goretzka-Replacement who left to Saudi that summer). And I loved my backups. That all together rendered me kinda in a state of I dont know what to do.
GK: Diogo Costa / Atubolu (great Backup and helps with CL-Registration, I usually try to have my backup-GK help with that) DR: Joshua Kimmich / Stanisic (can play all 4 positions in the Defense and helps with CL-Registration) DL: Alphonso Davies / Dedic (can play DR and DL) DCR: Mathijs de Ligt / Stones DCL: Min-Jae Kim / Upamecano DMR: Sergey Milinkovic-Savic / Martel (Helps with CL-Registration) DML: Franck Kessie / Schlager AMR: Leroy Sane / Wanner (developed great through loans and helps with CL-Registration) AML: Jamal Musiala / Mathys Tel (developed great and helps with CL-Registration) AMC: Florian Wirtz / Ouedraogo (amazing talent and helps with CL-Registration) STR: Randal Kolo-Muani / Gimenez (the only backup I'm not in love with but I had brought him in the year earlier and didnt wanna get rid of him yet)
I also have Malcom (lost his Backup spot to Wanner), Noah Okafor (3rd Striker), Bryan Zaragoza, Ousmane Diomande (who I will loan out because he deserves better) and Luca Netz who are my backups to backups. Everyone but Netz was registered for the CL (thank god). Zaragoza and maybe Malcom will leave in the winter if we get interesting enough offers and if they want to leave.
I also have to admit that I just turned off OIs again because I felt like especially my best players (Wirtz, Musiala and Sane) were very inconsistent in ratings. I mean we are still smashing the league but I thuoght their inconsistency might have to do with OIs because they some game have to do more and in others not. Could be that its also me struggling with how to praise players without them sucking immediately after I praised them hahaha Been struggling with that for years.
I've used 2 more tactics in my first career but your suits better and gets me better results. I do have a couple of questions for you though.
I started as a mid table Greek team in the 2nd division and now I'm in my 3rd season and I'll probably get the title, I'm in the cup final and I'm continuing in UEL as I'm in the best 8 teams. Pretty impressive I'd say!
Now, in some matches all my players (my best 11) perform below average - is this due to consistency? I don't know, all of them?
2nd question, during lots of matches, let's say almost half of them, my assistant suggests that I add the TI Work ball into box because the team looses a lot of chances. Is this something that I can safely add during a game?
gekan said: Now, in some matches all my players (my best 11) perform below average - is this due to consistency? I don't know, all of them? Expand
what average's are you seeing? Someone may correct me here but I'm pretty sure there was a thread somewhere that suggested the average rating was 6.5 and anything higher meant the player was doing well but I would say yes consistency could play a part but also look at the player's familiarity with the role? are they suited for that role/are they playing out of position?
gekan said: 2nd question, during lots of matches, let's say almost half of them, my assistant suggests that I add the TI Work ball into box because the team looses a lot of chances. Is this something that I can safely add during a game? Expand This shouts that your team is missing chances, this comes down to player quality but you could also see who is taking the shots and maybe add the player instruction "shoot less often" to them
Well, if 6.5 is average maybe I was a little harsh on my players. Most players in these situations are between 6.5 and 6.7. Almost everyone is very familiar with their role, with maybe one exception in a game. I'll look at the situation in a different light based on what you wrote.
My players, with 3-4 exceptions, are not very good. We are a poor team and really our level is about somewhere in the middle of the standings. So I'm going to see who's making all the missed shots and I'm going to add the PI you proposed.
Hi @CBP87 could you please mention all the in-game adaptatioms you nake, as I'm losing some wierd games, I out xg most of the teams but I lose aginst the last placed team 3-0 at times. What are the adaptations for games against higher vs lower reputation teams. Also my striker tends to have 6.3 rating very often, what do you look for in a striker?
Well, if 6.5 is average maybe I was a little harsh on my players. Most players in these situations are between 6.5 and 6.7. Almost everyone is very familiar with their role, with maybe one exception in a game. I'll look at the situation in a different light based on what you wrote.
My players, with 3-4 exceptions, are not very good. We are a poor team and really our level is about somewhere in the middle of the standings. So I'm going to see who's making all the missed shots and I'm going to add the PI you proposed.
Thanks again. Expand
Did you team hit the post or bar alot in these games maybe? Or did you have many offside-situations. These go into the rating as well (although I dont think they should.)
Thought i would add a follow up after the first season.
This season we were top of the table from the very start (i imagine tactical familiarity and a good dressing room atmosphere from the previous success of last season helped this)
There was a point at the start of January where i thought it would all taper off and my team would struggle because of a few injuries and a lack of depth. This wasn't the case though. March was the worst month where players were tired from games coming thick and fast but even then we didn't lose much only picked up a few draws instead.
There were plenty of games where we won by 5 goals or more. Again am very impressed with this tactic and just thought i would show the continued success.
ShiftLeft said: Hi @CBP87 could you please mention all the in-game adaptatioms you nake, as I'm losing some wierd games, I out xg most of the teams but I lose aginst the last placed team 3-0 at times. What are the adaptations for games against higher vs lower reputation teams. Also my striker tends to have 6.3 rating very often, what do you look for in a striker? Expand
Hi,
I often find I have the same issue when coming up against teams lower down in the league, you have to realise that these teams will look to sit deep, defend and hit you on the counter so you need to find a way to pull them out of position to exploit the spaces being left. I do this by lowering the tempo to lower, my team retain possession and slowly build up the play and this helps drag the opposition out of position.
FREDLERIGOLO21 said: Hello, congratulation for tactic, are you thinking that to work with my club Lille in France thanks you for your answer. Expand
Thank you and I would say Yes it could work, but remember you can't just force a tactic on players, you need players for the style of play you want to play so recruit physical engines. I always look for players with good acceleration and pace and because the tactic is high pressing and very intense, I also look for players with good work rate and stamina
This season we were top of the table from the very start (i imagine tactical familiarity and a good dressing room atmosphere from the previous success of last season helped this)
There was a point at the start of January where i thought it would all taper off and my team would struggle because of a few injuries and a lack of depth. This wasn't the case though. March was the worst month where players were tired from games coming thick and fast but even then we didn't lose much only picked up a few draws instead.
There were plenty of games where we won by 5 goals or more. Again am very impressed with this tactic and just thought i would show the continued success.
I was predicted to finish 19th. Expand
Thanks for sharing mate, very impressive result, shame about the run towards the end of the season.
MCotton said: Started using this tactic on my current save. So far so good!
Media prediction 19th
Nice going pal, you venturing towards the football league?
Good morning,
Do you use O.I for this tactic? Do you use set pieces?
Ajax said: Good morning,
Do you use O.I for this tactic? Do you use set pieces?
Morning,
I don't use OIs and I leave set pieces to the AM. You can add set pieces to it though. There is a thread on here where someone has tested the set pieces doing the rounds and have created a table with the results. I think blue routines tapped the table
CBP87 said: Nice going pal, you venturing towards the football league?
That's the plan.
Will update at the end of the season
super tactic! just one question. The DM role's can be changed without affecting the overall tactic effectiveness? I was thinking of a DLP and a BWM
AlexBote said: super tactic! just one question. The DM role's can be changed without affecting the overall tactic effectiveness? I was thinking of a DLP and a BWM
Changing the roles would impact the effectiveness of the tactic in my opinion, but if you have the players to do it then I would say go for it
National league North. Great tactic. I love to play but don't have a clue about making a tactic so i use created tactics to fill in that gap and i can do the rest.
Also used the Set-Pieces that someone mentioned earlier in this thread. Saw an immediate improvement on set-pieces once included.
Thanks for the tactic.
The Lone Wanderer said: National league North. Great tactic. I love to play but don't have a clue about making a tactic so i use created tactics to fill in that gap and i can do the rest.
Also used the Set-Pieces that someone mentioned earlier in this thread. Saw an immediate improvement on set-pieces once included.
Thanks for the tactic.
cracking result, what set piece routine did you use?
great tactics, thanks man. just wondering, how is a tweak looking like for bringing home a game when leading with 1-2 goals from 70th minute onwards?
nurderbvb said: great tactics, thanks man. just wondering, how is a tweak looking like for bringing home a game when leading with 1-2 goals from 70th minute onwards?
I haven't uploaded a tweak of that nature mate as it wouldn't perform well in the test. But I would say reduce your tempo, remove prevent short GK distribution. You pretty much want to remove any instructions that involves your players leaving their designated positions. Try to create a wall that is capable of keeping hold of the ball
pek80 said: https://fm-arena.com/thread/9033-fm-arena-1-21-set-piece-best-hits/
CBP87 said: cracking result, what set piece routine did you use?
These were the set pieces used.
i've used this tactic with man utd and i currently sit 6th in the league and am about to get sacked! shot count is crazy high, but i'm losing to liverpool, man cuty, chealsea and each time is 5-0. Defensively this is pretty dire. Are you doing these tests on holiday? it gives you different results
EDIT: I have just conceded 4 goals at home to middlesborough. SOmething isnt right with the defensive element at all
mattw123 said: i've used this tactic with man utd and i currently sit 6th in the league and am about to get sacked! shot count is crazy high, but i'm losing to liverpool, man cuty, chealsea and each time is 5-0. Defensively this is pretty dire. Are you doing these tests on holiday? it gives you different results
EDIT: I have just conceded 4 goals at home to middlesborough. SOmething isnt right with the defensive element at all
As a Bolton fan, that is music to my ears
But in all seriousness, There are no specific "shooting" team instructions and there is only one player instruction, shoot less often, which is applied to the full backs. It sounds like the team are creating the chances but the problem is finishing them. That sounds to me like player quality unfortunately. Look at who is taking the shots and see what you can do to restrict them from shooting.
How are you conceding the goals? is it from set pieces? who is in charge of your set pieces? if it is set pieces then download one of the set piece routines from here https://fm-arena.com/thread/9033-fm-arena-1-21-set-piece-best-hits/ *I'm not saying it is set pieces you're conceding from, just trying to see how you're conceding the goals*
Use data hub to see how the goals are being conceded and try to address them, do you have any screenshots from the games? if you do, can you stick them on here please
mattw123 said: i've used this tactic with man utd and i currently sit 6th in the league and am about to get sacked! shot count is crazy high, but i'm losing to liverpool, man cuty, chealsea and each time is 5-0. Defensively this is pretty dire. Are you doing these tests on holiday? it gives you different results
EDIT: I have just conceded 4 goals at home to middlesborough. SOmething isnt right with the defensive element at all
I have exactly the same feeling, this tactic is very strange, using even the set-pieces that people use it unfortunately doesn't give me total satisfaction in the game.
Ajax said: I have exactly the same feeling, this tactic is very strange, using even the set-pieces that people use it unfortunately doesn't give me total satisfaction in the game.
I know it probably going to come across as me being bias but I have no issues with this tactic, I buy players with good acceleration and pace and I've smashed every league I've used it in
I just registered here to give my feedback on this tactic. I got FM24 in January after skipping FM23, so I looked for a good looking tactic that is in a "classic formation". I found this and used it for my first savegame in FM24 with Chelsea and although they have an expensive but very weird squad at the start and me starting with realistic I saw all them players come and go and had no chance in doing anything about it. I went invincible with Chelsea in the first year with a weird squad and won the league.
Second season I did some changes but didnt feel great about the team I got together (I had trouble finding my way into the new way of how transfers and negotiations work) I won the PL and CL, FA and CC in my second season. I think I did two more seasons with them and won the league each time, FA Cup each time, and went to the CL finale at least one more time.
I am writing all of this only to show how great it works. Thanks mate for making this tactic and sharing it.
Edit: Just because I just read your last post and "smashing every league" is the most fitting way to phrase my experience with it.
Btw. I use OIs because in my Bayern Save that I'm currently in, I absolutely smashed the league but had troubles in the CL. In my Chelsea safe I had used OIs and had non of the troubles and since I started using OIs with Bayern I had less trouble.
RawJah said: I just registered here to give my feedback on this tactic. I got FM24 in January after skipping FM23, so I looked for a good looking tactic that is in a "classic formation". I found this and used it for my first savegame in FM24 with Chelsea and although they have an expensive but very weird squad at the start and me starting with realistic I saw all them players come and go and had no chance in doing anything about it. I went invincible with Chelsea in the first year with a weird squad and won the league.
Second season I did some changes but didnt feel great about the team I got together (I had trouble finding my way into the new way of how transfers and negotiations work) I won the PL and CL, FA and CC in my second season. I think I did two more seasons with them and won the league each time, FA Cup each time, and went to the CL finale at least one more time.
I am writing all of this only to show how great it works. Thanks mate for making this tactic and sharing it.
Edit: Just because I just read your last post and "smashing every league" is the most fitting way to phrase my experience with it.
Btw. I use OIs because in my Bayern Save that I'm currently in, I absolutely smashed the league but had troubles in the CL. In my Chelsea safe I had used OIs and had non of the troubles and since I started using OIs with Bayern I had less trouble.
Sounds like you achieved some fantastic results, appreciate the postive feedback, what OIs did you use for your Bayern save?
CBP87 said: Sounds like you achieved some fantastic results, appreciate the postive feedback, what OIs did you use for your Bayern save?
Wait, I meant that I let my Assistant with the best stats in both tactical attributes do the OIs. Am I meaning something else than you? If so, sorry. I'm german and play in german so I thought thats what meant hahaha
btw and it has nothing to do with the tactic, but I need to get it off my chest. I'm playing FM/CM for more than 20 years now. Yesterday, when I wrote my post I was on a high because I was finishing my season and won the double for the 3rd time in 3 years and all was fun, then I lost the CL finale against PSG in penalties (god damn) and right now I'm having a very unsatisfying summer transfer window and am totally down. Isnt it crazy that this game still does this with us?
RawJah said: Wait, I meant that I let my Assistant with the best stats in both tactical attributes do the OIs. Am I meaning something else than you? If so, sorry. I'm german and play in german so I thought thats what meant hahaha
No that's fine, I get what you mean
RawJah said: btw and it has nothing to do with the tactic, but I need to get it off my chest. I'm playing FM/CM for more than 20 years now. Yesterday, when I wrote my post I was on a high because I was finishing my season and won the double for the 3rd time in 3 years and all was fun, then I lost the CL finale against PSG in penalties (god damn) and right now I'm having a very unsatisfying summer transfer window and am totally down. Isnt it crazy that this game still does this with us?
Yeah its crazy, I've been playing since CM 08/09 but really fell in love with the game when playing 01/02. It's had its claws in me ever since haha. What sort of player are you searching for? Sounds like you don't need to change much in terms of players, Were you the better team in the final?
CBP87 said: Yeah its crazy, I've been playing since CM 08/09 but really fell in love with the game when playing 01/02. It's had its claws in me ever since haha. What sort of player are you searching for? Sounds like you don't need to change much in terms of players, Were you the better team in the final?
Been struggling with that for years.
We were the slightly better team over the 120 minutes, if i remember correctly. My frustrations in the transfer summer were more rooted that I put myself into a situation where I couldnt really bring anyone in reasonably because I had already signed John Stones, Franck Kessie and Sergey Milinkovic-Savic for free for the summer. I had planned to pull Kimmich from DMC back to DR (for the first time really in that save) kinda saying "Alright Kimmich, you had all the time and chances to play DMC but we never achieved the ultimate goal, you have to go with what I want now". That coincided with Kimmich wanting to explore his options but I refused to sell him because of that (and to throw my plans away). Also I was worried that I wouldnt meet CL-Registration-Rules in full because that Summer meant the end of Neuer, Müller and Gündogan (who left to Saudi after I got him for little money from Barcelona 2 years before, making him the Goretzka-Replacement who left to Saudi that summer). And I loved my backups. That all together rendered me kinda in a state of I dont know what to do.
GK: Diogo Costa / Atubolu (great Backup and helps with CL-Registration, I usually try to have my backup-GK help with that)
DR: Joshua Kimmich / Stanisic (can play all 4 positions in the Defense and helps with CL-Registration)
DL: Alphonso Davies / Dedic (can play DR and DL)
DCR: Mathijs de Ligt / Stones
DCL: Min-Jae Kim / Upamecano
DMR: Sergey Milinkovic-Savic / Martel (Helps with CL-Registration)
DML: Franck Kessie / Schlager
AMR: Leroy Sane / Wanner (developed great through loans and helps with CL-Registration)
AML: Jamal Musiala / Mathys Tel (developed great and helps with CL-Registration)
AMC: Florian Wirtz / Ouedraogo (amazing talent and helps with CL-Registration)
STR: Randal Kolo-Muani / Gimenez (the only backup I'm not in love with but I had brought him in the year earlier and didnt wanna get rid of him yet)
I also have Malcom (lost his Backup spot to Wanner), Noah Okafor (3rd Striker), Bryan Zaragoza, Ousmane Diomande (who I will loan out because he deserves better) and Luca Netz who are my backups to backups. Everyone but Netz was registered for the CL (thank god). Zaragoza and maybe Malcom will leave in the winter if we get interesting enough offers and if they want to leave.
I also have to admit that I just turned off OIs again because I felt like especially my best players (Wirtz, Musiala and Sane) were very inconsistent in ratings. I mean we are still smashing the league but I thuoght their inconsistency might have to do with OIs because they some game have to do more and in others not. Could be that its also me struggling with how to praise players without them sucking immediately after I praised them hahaha
Hi CBP87.
I've used 2 more tactics in my first career but your suits better and gets me better results. I do have a couple of questions for you though.
I started as a mid table Greek team in the 2nd division and now I'm in my 3rd season and I'll probably get the title, I'm in the cup final and I'm continuing in UEL as I'm in the best 8 teams. Pretty impressive I'd say!
Now, in some matches all my players (my best 11) perform below average - is this due to consistency? I don't know, all of them?
2nd question, during lots of matches, let's say almost half of them, my assistant suggests that I add the TI Work ball into box because the team looses a lot of chances. Is this something that I can safely add during a game?
Thanks and congratulations for your amazing work!
Hello @gekan and thank you for your kind words
gekan said: Now, in some matches all my players (my best 11) perform below average - is this due to consistency? I don't know, all of them?
what average's are you seeing? Someone may correct me here but I'm pretty sure there was a thread somewhere that suggested the average rating was 6.5 and anything higher meant the player was doing well but I would say yes consistency could play a part but also look at the player's familiarity with the role? are they suited for that role/are they playing out of position?
gekan said: 2nd question, during lots of matches, let's say almost half of them, my assistant suggests that I add the TI Work ball into box because the team looses a lot of chances. Is this something that I can safely add during a game?
This shouts that your team is missing chances, this comes down to player quality but you could also see who is taking the shots and maybe add the player instruction "shoot less often" to them
@CBP87 thanks for your answer!
Well, if 6.5 is average maybe I was a little harsh on my players. Most players in these situations are between 6.5 and 6.7. Almost everyone is very familiar with their role, with maybe one exception in a game. I'll look at the situation in a different light based on what you wrote.
My players, with 3-4 exceptions, are not very good. We are a poor team and really our level is about somewhere in the middle of the standings. So I'm going to see who's making all the missed shots and I'm going to add the PI you proposed.
Thanks again.
Hi @CBP87 could you please mention all the in-game adaptatioms you nake, as I'm losing some wierd games, I out xg most of the teams but I lose aginst the last placed team 3-0 at times. What are the adaptations for games against higher vs lower reputation teams. Also my striker tends to have 6.3 rating very often, what do you look for in a striker?
gekan said: @CBP87 thanks for your answer!
Well, if 6.5 is average maybe I was a little harsh on my players. Most players in these situations are between 6.5 and 6.7. Almost everyone is very familiar with their role, with maybe one exception in a game. I'll look at the situation in a different light based on what you wrote.
My players, with 3-4 exceptions, are not very good. We are a poor team and really our level is about somewhere in the middle of the standings. So I'm going to see who's making all the missed shots and I'm going to add the PI you proposed.
Thanks again.
Did you team hit the post or bar alot in these games maybe? Or did you have many offside-situations. These go into the rating as well (although I dont think they should.)
Hello, congratulation for tactic, are you thinking that to work with my club Lille in France thanks you for your answer.
Thought i would add a follow up after the first season.
This season we were top of the table from the very start (i imagine tactical familiarity and a good dressing room atmosphere from the previous success of last season helped this)
There was a point at the start of January where i thought it would all taper off and my team would struggle because of a few injuries and a lack of depth. This wasn't the case though. March was the worst month where players were tired from games coming thick and fast but even then we didn't lose much only picked up a few draws instead.
There were plenty of games where we won by 5 goals or more. Again am very impressed with this tactic and just thought i would show the continued success.
I was predicted to finish 19th.
ShiftLeft said: Hi @CBP87 could you please mention all the in-game adaptatioms you nake, as I'm losing some wierd games, I out xg most of the teams but I lose aginst the last placed team 3-0 at times. What are the adaptations for games against higher vs lower reputation teams. Also my striker tends to have 6.3 rating very often, what do you look for in a striker?
Hi,
I often find I have the same issue when coming up against teams lower down in the league, you have to realise that these teams will look to sit deep, defend and hit you on the counter so you need to find a way to pull them out of position to exploit the spaces being left. I do this by lowering the tempo to lower, my team retain possession and slowly build up the play and this helps drag the opposition out of position.
FREDLERIGOLO21 said: Hello, congratulation for tactic, are you thinking that to work with my club Lille in France thanks you for your answer.
Thank you and I would say Yes it could work, but remember you can't just force a tactic on players, you need players for the style of play you want to play so recruit physical engines. I always look for players with good acceleration and pace and because the tactic is high pressing and very intense, I also look for players with good work rate and stamina
The Lone Wanderer said: Thought i would add a follow up after the first season.
This season we were top of the table from the very start (i imagine tactical familiarity and a good dressing room atmosphere from the previous success of last season helped this)
There was a point at the start of January where i thought it would all taper off and my team would struggle because of a few injuries and a lack of depth. This wasn't the case though. March was the worst month where players were tired from games coming thick and fast but even then we didn't lose much only picked up a few draws instead.
There were plenty of games where we won by 5 goals or more. Again am very impressed with this tactic and just thought i would show the continued success.
I was predicted to finish 19th.
Thanks for sharing mate, very impressive result, shame about the run towards the end of the season.
Best of luck in league 2