Thanks for providing the CA guide, I'm not sure what I'm missing but I cant really wrap my head around it. Maybe I am missing something obvious, maybe someone can help me to understand. In the guide there are a couple of factors mentioned that could explain the CA difference, but they all dont really apply here imo.
Attribute weighting: Both players play the exact same positions so their attribute weighting should be the same. The major difference in the highly weighted attributes between the players are composure (+3 for Davidson) and dribbling (+3 for Sall), with dribbling being weighted even higher according to GS coefficients. Even tho Davidson has +1 Acc which is a fairly highly weighted attribute, it shouldnt make such a difference, right? After all Sall has +2 Anticipation, +1 Pace, +1 Crossing, +3 Vision, +1 Technique, +1 Off the ball, which all are highly weighted attributes.
Position and weak foot: As mentioned they both play the same exact positions (AM L/F C) and even have the same strength in their weaker foot (10L/20R each), although im not sure if GS uses that to calculate the CA.
So after looking at the weightings of the attributes and reading the CA guide it makes even less sense to me. I am aware that the CA doesnt really matter but I'd just like to understand how Davidson has a higher CA than Sall according to GS. If I'm missing something obvious please let me know. Thanks
jojoloko said: Thanks for providing the CA guide, I'm not sure what I'm missing but I cant really wrap my head around it. Maybe I am missing something obvious, maybe someone can help me to understand. In the guide there are a couple of factors mentioned that could explain the CA difference, but they all dont really apply here imo.
Attribute weighting: Both players play the exact same positions so their attribute weighting should be the same. The major difference in the highly weighted attributes between the players are composure (+3 for Davidson) and dribbling (+3 for Sall), with dribbling being weighted even higher according to GS coefficients. Even tho Davidson has +1 Acc which is a fairly highly weighted attribute, it shouldnt make such a difference, right? After all Sall has +2 Anticipation, +1 Pace, +1 Crossing, +3 Vision, +1 Technique, +1 Off the ball, which all are highly weighted attributes.
Position and weak foot: As mentioned they both play the same exact positions (AM L/F C) and even have the same strength in their weaker foot (10L/20R each), although im not sure if GS uses that to calculate the CA.
So after looking at the weightings of the attributes and reading the CA guide it makes even less sense to me. I am aware that the CA doesnt really matter but I'd just like to understand how Davidson has a higher CA than Sall according to GS. If I'm missing something obvious please let me know. Thanks Expand
Check if they have the same proficiency in their positions. A player with 20 FW and 18 AML will have different CA than a player with 20 in each position (even if they both show as a green circle), because playing in multiple positions affect the weight of attributes. I cannot tell exactly how it is calculated, but I am pretty sure it takes the highest weight of all positions, so a versatile player will have lower attributes for the same CA.
ZaZ said: Check if they have the same proficiency in their positions. A player with 20 FW and 18 AML will have different CA than a player with 20 in each position (even if they both show as a green circle), because playing in multiple positions affect the weight of attributes. I cannot tell exactly how it is calculated, but I am pretty sure it takes the highest weight of all positions, so a versatile player will have lower attributes for the same CA. Expand
Yea i reads about that in the guide as well, but Sall has the same proficiency for AMLR and FW while being a lot more proficient than Davidson as AMC.
Davidson might just be one of the outliers meantioned in the guide but since both are high Pace/Acc wingers that still doesnt really make sense to me.
I don't know GS procedures but both have level 20 for two positions and maybe one player has CA calculated for AMRL and the second one for ST - in such case results will be different.
Hello,
first time using Genie Scout and I'm a bit confused. I got the following two players rated GS as 167 CA (Sall) and 170 CA (Davidson).
When i compare them ingame Sall looks much stronger, having a slight advantage in every attribute.
Can someone explain why GS shows Davidson as higher CA? Thanks
jojoloko said: Hello,
first time using Genie Scout and I'm a bit confused. I got the following two players rated GS as 167 CA (Sall) and 170 CA (Davidson).
When i compare them ingame Sall looks much stronger, having a slight advantage in every attribute.
Can someone explain why GS shows Davidson as higher CA? Thanks
You should read through the GS Guide
Mark said: You should read through the GS Guide
Thanks for providing the CA guide, I'm not sure what I'm missing but I cant really wrap my head around it. Maybe I am missing something obvious, maybe someone can help me to understand. In the guide there are a couple of factors mentioned that could explain the CA difference, but they all dont really apply here imo.
Attribute weighting: Both players play the exact same positions so their attribute weighting should be the same. The major difference in the highly weighted attributes between the players are composure (+3 for Davidson) and dribbling (+3 for Sall), with dribbling being weighted even higher according to GS coefficients. Even tho Davidson has +1 Acc which is a fairly highly weighted attribute, it shouldnt make such a difference, right? After all Sall has +2 Anticipation, +1 Pace, +1 Crossing, +3 Vision, +1 Technique, +1 Off the ball, which all are highly weighted attributes.
Position and weak foot: As mentioned they both play the same exact positions (AM L/F C) and even have the same strength in their weaker foot (10L/20R each), although im not sure if GS uses that to calculate the CA.
So after looking at the weightings of the attributes and reading the CA guide it makes even less sense to me. I am aware that the CA doesnt really matter but I'd just like to understand how Davidson has a higher CA than Sall according to GS. If I'm missing something obvious please let me know. Thanks
jojoloko said: Thanks for providing the CA guide, I'm not sure what I'm missing but I cant really wrap my head around it. Maybe I am missing something obvious, maybe someone can help me to understand. In the guide there are a couple of factors mentioned that could explain the CA difference, but they all dont really apply here imo.
Attribute weighting: Both players play the exact same positions so their attribute weighting should be the same. The major difference in the highly weighted attributes between the players are composure (+3 for Davidson) and dribbling (+3 for Sall), with dribbling being weighted even higher according to GS coefficients. Even tho Davidson has +1 Acc which is a fairly highly weighted attribute, it shouldnt make such a difference, right? After all Sall has +2 Anticipation, +1 Pace, +1 Crossing, +3 Vision, +1 Technique, +1 Off the ball, which all are highly weighted attributes.
Position and weak foot: As mentioned they both play the same exact positions (AM L/F C) and even have the same strength in their weaker foot (10L/20R each), although im not sure if GS uses that to calculate the CA.
So after looking at the weightings of the attributes and reading the CA guide it makes even less sense to me. I am aware that the CA doesnt really matter but I'd just like to understand how Davidson has a higher CA than Sall according to GS. If I'm missing something obvious please let me know. Thanks
Check if they have the same proficiency in their positions. A player with 20 FW and 18 AML will have different CA than a player with 20 in each position (even if they both show as a green circle), because playing in multiple positions affect the weight of attributes. I cannot tell exactly how it is calculated, but I am pretty sure it takes the highest weight of all positions, so a versatile player will have lower attributes for the same CA.
ZaZ said: Check if they have the same proficiency in their positions. A player with 20 FW and 18 AML will have different CA than a player with 20 in each position (even if they both show as a green circle), because playing in multiple positions affect the weight of attributes. I cannot tell exactly how it is calculated, but I am pretty sure it takes the highest weight of all positions, so a versatile player will have lower attributes for the same CA.
Yea i reads about that in the guide as well, but Sall has the same proficiency for AMLR and FW while being a lot more proficient than Davidson as AMC.
Davidson might just be one of the outliers meantioned in the guide but since both are high Pace/Acc wingers that still doesnt really make sense to me.
I don't know GS procedures but both have level 20 for two positions and maybe one player has CA calculated for AMRL and the second one for ST - in such case results will be different.
CA in GenieScout is not a GS calculation, it comes direct from the game database
The %age rating is the GS calculation
You'd have to ask SI how the CA is arrived at