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Patch 22.2.0 tests
Patch 22.1.1 tests
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Three team test methodology: Only run premier league, disable first transfer window, control three teams, locking in the same tactic. Teams selected: Aston Villa, West Ham United, Wolves.
Results: Aston Villa 3rd, Wolves 5th, West Ham United 4th
Tactic theory: Built based on the philosophy that attacking roles that sit deep are very strong on the match engine. Using the winger role and the IWB underlaps to push the W wide to take advantage of crossing.
Screenshots of the tactic and final table shown below. Interested in a Tottenham simulation or other's results.
Thought I would throw up a few other stats. This tactic does not generate possession. The three tested teams were the worst possession teams in the EPL. Additionally they did not complete very many passes. However, they were the top three teams in chances created and goals. All three were top 5 in xG. Finally, the tested teams were 3 of the top 4 in interceptions.
The tactic is not for the faint of heart and does concede goals while generating a bunch of 3-1, 3-2, and 4-2 type wins.
momentaryblink said: Interested in a Tottenham simulation or other's results.
Here you go
Harry Kane had 72 goals? Holy hell. 3rd is a good result with Spurs, was hoping for more after getting Villa/West Ham/Wolves all into europe. Thanks for the verification!
momentaryblink said: Harry Kane had 72 goals? Holy hell. 3rd is a good result with Spurs, was hoping for more after getting Villa/West Ham/Wolves all into europe. Thanks for the verification!
Yup, Harry Kane was a goal machine
0.2 Update
Wingers changed to IW, team instructions tweaked, results improved. Tottenham tests on 89 and 90 points. Kane with 62 and 65 goal seasons.
I think this version is better than the one with the Wingers and has less outlier holiday tests.
Tactic
Test 1
Test 2
Full-release update:
Arrowhead 4-2-2-1-1 IW Positive [1.0]
In an attempt shore up the defensive stats for the Arrowhead tactic, the mentality has been dialed back to Positive and the IWBs have been set on support (I know, I'm a chicken). The VOL on attack seems more important than the IWBs on attack.
The most recent test with Leeds, generated the following results:
88pts - 93g - 35a
Feedback and verification welcomed!
Version 1.1 Uploaded
Changelog
IWBs from Support to Attacking
VOLs from Attacking to Support
Results
Leeds - 89 pts - 82 for - 38 against
Tactic
Overview Full Table
Schedule 1 Schedule 2
Update: Arrowhead ATT 1.0 [4-2-2-1-1]
Revisiting the "Very Attacking" version of the tactic for the first time since the full release.
Changelog:
Individual instructions changed to short passes for the VOL
Wingers have become Inverted Wingers
Both CBs are now BPDs
GK is now SK support
Roll it out is now Throw it Long with Distribute Quickly
Test results with EVERTON:
86 points - 97 goals - 45 conceded
Richarlison played as the AF, scored 36 league goals
Screenshots:
Methodology: Collaborated with Dino to share a testing database. Top 20 teams in the world, 76 game season, no continental or domestic cup competitions, all teams have injuries and suspensions wiped at the start of the test. Upper mid-table Inter and lower mid-table Napoli were used for the tests to most closely mirror Team A and Team B in the FM-Arena tests.
Discussion: Spent some time the last two days revisiting the Arrowhead 1.0 tactic. The 2.0 tactic moved to RPMs while the 1.0 tactic attacked with Segundo Volante's. I think there is still some room to improve the VOL version, so I've gone back to the drawing board.
I'm posting two versions of the tactic today, one with FBs and IWs and the other with IWBs and IWs. The double inverted tactic obviously could face some difficulties against a team with two high wingers, but I think it does well against the field and simple in game adjustments between these two tactics can maximize results.
Arrowhead 1.3 [4-2-2-1-1] (IWB VOL IW T)
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Arrowhead 1.4 [4-2-2-1-1] (IWB VOL W SS)
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Most recent tactic comes in at 4.8, despite my testing database grading it out at 2.118 ppg (which would be a 7.0). I expected a regression with their DB, but not one that large. Was hoping for the 5.8 range and am surprised it performed that poorly.
I have to admit that I'm confused. Dino and I have worked hard to create a testing environment that mirrors the FM-Arena database and being more selective on the tactics that we/I post.
Perhaps Inter and Napoli are just that much better than Team A and Team B and we should be testing with the bottom teams in our DB?
Back to the drawing board...
momentaryblink said: Most recent tactic comes in at 4.8, despite my testing database grading it out at 2.118 ppg (which would be a 7.0). I expected a regression with their DB, but not one that large. Was hoping for the 5.8 range and am surprised it performed that poorly.
I have to admit that I'm confused. Dino and I have worked hard to create a testing environment that mirrors the FM-Arena database and being more selective on the tactics that we/I post.
Perhaps Inter and Napoli are just that much better than Team A and Team B and we should be testing with the bottom teams in our DB?
Back to the drawing board...
Just a heads-up, in the fm-arena testing league the teams are nothing more than just names. All the players and AI managers are tweaked.
You can download any game save and see for yourself - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/1976-arrowhead-1-4-4-2-2-1-1/
Hope that helps.
Cheers.
Zippo said: Just a heads-up, in the fm-arena testing league the teams are nothing more than just names. All the players and AI managers are tweaked.
You can download any game save and see for yourself - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/1976-arrowhead-1-4-4-2-2-1-1/
I assume the DB is not available for download? A blank DB, rather than the results DB.
momentaryblink said: I assume the DB is not available for download?
That's correct.
Zippo said: That's correct.
That's fair. I'm sure a lot of time goes into the DB creation and to see that stolen and potentially used by a rival seems unfair, so I get that. Just thought I'd ask. Appreciate all you do to rate these tactics and I'll keep working harder to crack 6.0!
Incredible tactic, I won la liga championship in season 1 with Elche.
4 players at + 10 goals
4th picture is my youth team, destroying opponents
Had trouble though with teams playing in 442.
And I struggled to find who to play at CAM as the rating is often around 6.7 even when we score 2 or 3 goals