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Created by ntr_master - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/3193-world-of-the-best-tactic-in-fm23/

and tweaked by Will1981 on FMBase.

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Alan Bessa said: Thank you! Edited.

Hi,

Please, provide results from a normal game save. Any custom leagues result doesn't count.

Also, if this tactic is a tweaked version of a tactic that has been tested already then we need to know what tweaks were made to evaluate them if they're worth testing.

Thank you.

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Edited with results, the tweaks is that the Right Striker doesnt have instructions, only the left one, and adding the instructions make the tactic perform better in my tests and saves.

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Alan Bessa said: Edited with results, the tweaks is that the Right Striker doesnt have instructions, only the left one, and adding the instructions make the tactic perform better in my tests and saves.

I noticed Man City got only 59 points in your save? How is that possible? :D

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Man, it performed light years better in my tests and in Will's compared to the original. Didn't made much further here. Sorry if wasted time.

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Alan Bessa said: Man, it performed light years better in my tests and in Will's compared to the original. Didn't made much further here. Sorry if wasted time.

I really don't see how to can be "light years better" in Will's testing.

In Will's testing the original tactic had 1.71 PPG and the tweaked version 1.80 PPG

PPG = Points Per Game

Now if take the PPG and calculate what would be the result after 38 matches ( the way fm-arena does it ) then you get:

38 x 1.71 = 65 Pts

38 x 1.80 = 68 Pts

I really don't know how 65 pts vs 68 pts can be  "light years better"

Taking into consideration that Will tests only for 500 matches and he doesn't use FMRTE to exclude Condition and Morale changes and players rotation takes place, all that adds additional RNG to the result, which isn't less than +/- 5-7 points ( if we take 38 matches ).

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Thanks for explaining that, makes a lot of sense!

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I don't understand how this is 55 points vs 51 points for the original by ntr master.

Same team instructions, same positions/roles, same set peices. Only the PI for right striker has been added to match the left striker. Surely that cannot be worth a whopping 4pts/season? That's a huge margin as far as this ~75 season sample size goes. Is there something I'm missing?

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tom100000000000 said: Only the PI for right striker has been added to match the left striker. Surely that cannot be worth a whopping 4pts/season?

Why not?

It could be that for this specific tactic those changes make such difference.

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Markizio said: Why not?

It could be that for this specific tactic those changes make such difference.


It just seemed such a big difference for a small change, of course its possible.

To be fair, when I check the GD and see +5 GD improvement per 38 game season, suddenly doesn't seem so big a difference now

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tom100000000000 said: It just seemed such a big difference for a small change, of course its possible.

To be fair, when I check the GD and see +5 GD improvement per 38 game season, suddenly doesn't seem so big a difference now


I really haven't checked the changes but I guess 'Tackle harder' and 'Dribble More' were added and these PIs make a huge difference.

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