4132 Poirer XVI

4132 Poirer XVI

I don't think the defensive line has made any difference between higher and lower

Steelwood said: I don't think the defensive line has made any difference between higher and lower Expand

well it debuffed xmas, may the amount u players that u have upfront matters... or is just RNG

Steelwood said: I don't think the defensive line has made any difference between higher and lower Expand

it looks uhm obviously that LoE matters and D-line is just a cosmetics

crizeKOS said: well it debuffed xmas, may the amount u players that u have upfront matters... or is just RNG Expand

It was well tested by FM-Arena that those stuff doesn't matter, i was sure it would matter in-game but the Dark lord said that it's working on the same way(how the game being processed), because if "the IA" or "enemy player" would use just long pass, i could just lower the Lof, or the IA AM(our best friend) is already doing it.

opq said: it looks uhm obviously that LoE matters and D-line is just a cosmetics Expand

I think you're right and this test also proves it - https://fm-arena.com/thread/2874-defensive-line/

BUT I also think that for some shapes the Defensive Line still might have a small effect because as @crizeKOS said "Higher Defensive Line" improved the result of XMAS_twkd3 but the improvement was a quite small it could be just the RNG

Tsubasa said: I think you're right and this test also proves it - https://fm-arena.com/thread/2874-defensive-line/

BUT I also think that for some shapes the Defensive Line still might have a small effect because as @crizeKOS said "Higher Defensive Line" improved the result of XMAS_twkd3 but the improvement was a quite small it could be just the RNG Expand

it was tested as the only variable changed on XMAS_twkd3... it dropped 2 points on her

Tsubasa said: I think you're right and this test also proves it - https://fm-arena.com/thread/2874-defensive-line/

BUT I also think that for some shapes the Defensive Line still might have a small effect because as @crizeKOS said "Higher Defensive Line" improved the result of XMAS_twkd3 but the improvement was a quite small it could be just the RNG Expand

I’ve got 3pts more on mistakenly uploaded twice tactic. And both runs there were 1920 games being played. So I wouldn’t seriously take +-1-2pts as a straight result of little tweaks to initial tactic

@Delicious Did u tried whipped or mixed crosses on Poirer? Is cosmectic too or just useless? I dont know why ppl has this sexual appeal by low crosses. In my brain whipped crosses makes much more sense in this context.

opq said: I’ve got 3pts more on mistakenly uploaded twice tactic. And both runs there were 1920 games being played. So I wouldn’t seriously take +-1-2pts as a straight result of little tweaks to initial tactic Expand

Yeah, so probably I got lucky with XMAS then.

Tbh I’d take just like that: guys it’s no need to play only with this tactic. Look, you can change this and that and result is +- the same if just this approach suits more to you. And yeah, sometimes it makes a tactic really better, and sometimes much worse xD

opq said: Tbh I’d take just like that: guys it’s no need to play only with this tactic. Look, you can change this and that and result is +- the same if just this approach suits more to you. And yeah, sometimes it makes a tactic really better, and sometimes much worse xD Expand

Anyway at the end all roads lead to one point and that point is the quality of your players.

If your team is like PSG and you play in a less competitive league such as French League then I bet you can easily win the league even using a tactic that got less than 30 points in the testing.

crizeKOS said: @Delicious Did u tried whipped or mixed crosses on Poirer? Is cosmectic too or just useless? I dont know why ppl has this sexual appeal by low crosses. In my brain whipped crosses makes much more sense in this context. Expand

Yes and i everything was going to nuts :P! And i will say again,checking stuff like crosses on this test on particular means nothing, since you have gnomes on attack and the defenders are giants.
We literally need something that can provide us even those infos because maybe are just other myths.


Sandro said: Anyway at the end all roads lead to one point and that point is the quality of your players.

If your team is like PSG and you play in a less competitive league such as French League then I bet you can easily win even using a tactic that got less than 30 points in the testing. Expand

Those tactics were tested even with  Bournemouth but since you can make them easy going 3-4* place with almost any tactic it's hard to say. So those tactics works for 160-125 ca. They are not game breaking tho like was in the past. That's why i am not even looking anymore at the vacation results. Because you can't measure if you were really lucky/unlucky or just legit.

This tactic took lesser amount of goals despite scoring lesser. But this probably wont mean anything due rng stuff... @Delicious you tried this one with the WBs?

crizeKOS said: This tactic took lesser amount of goals despite scoring lesser. But this probably wont mean anything due rng stuff... @Delicious you tried this one with the WBs? Expand

Coz Poirer XIII is on a higher line

crizeKOS said: Coz Poirer XIII is on a higher line Expand

I know u ll say that is a cosmetic stuff, but I think you should try it anyway. If u dont I ll 🤡

crizeKOS said: Coz Poirer XIII is on a higher line Expand

Mate,the line doesn't matter, i've proven it with those test... you can put even put sticked to the goalkeeper. The thing we don't know is how and IF the IA Assistant Manager is adapting it during game. In order to test it,you have to take 2 teams:

Basically do something like that : Since you know that pool and city are going to play CS, took them apply one normal tactic to the "choosen one" and put the tactic you want actually test to the other "one". Save before you going into the game (so you won't waste more time then you actually doing) and run this game like 50/100 times, you have to do nothing just watch the game and see what is happening.

But is basically useless if your ultimate goal is to get more point on a test league,because it will be always managed by IA and you don't really know what is happening during that game.
That's why many test league are forced to edit players (20) stat on play role on multiple players and multiple roles,because the Assistant Manager tend to move your players/swap them etc etc,that alter the result conduct of the test if you don't setup that way.
That's why the "xMas" is basically working,because players that knows how to play that role and position are like Unicorns. But once again Arena is proving that if you understand what you actually doing you can make work almost every shape. (if you find the right configuration, you can basically hit 55/56 without problems)

But if your ultimate goal is to get the highest numbers possible you just go HARD.
I've literally explained everything,because my ultimate goal is to help every player to even make their tactic from ground 0 just following those "rules" that were made by Arena, I am just simply translating them.
We can ask how RNG hitted those tactics to @Zippo,that's something he can for sure tell us in dettail.
Imho if i were you i would focus on sp's and roles more then a "cosmestic" line.

Delicious said: Mate,the line doesn't matter, i've proven it with those test... you can put even put sticked to the goalkeeper. The thing we don't know is how and IF the IA Assistant Manager is adapting it during game. In order to test it,you have to take 2 teams:

Basically do something like that : Since you know that pool and city are going to play CS, took them apply one normal tactic to the "choosen one" and put the tactic you want actually test to the other "one". Save before you going into the game (so you won't waste more time then you actually doing) and run this game like 50/100 times, you have to do nothing just watch the game and see what is happening.

But is basically useless if your ultimate goal is to get more point on a test league,because it will be always managed by IA and you don't really know what is happening during that game.
That's why many test league are forced to players (20) stat on play role on multiple players,because the Assistant Manager tent to move your players/swap them etc etc,that alter the result conduct of the test if you don't setup that way.
That's why the "xMas" is basically working,because players that knows how to play that role and position are like Unicorns. But once again Arena is proving that if you understand what you actually doing you can make work almost every shape. (if you find the right configuration, you can basically hit 55/56 without problems)

But if your ultimate goal is to get the highest numbers possible you just go HARD.
I've literally explained everything,because my ultimate goal is to help every player to even make their tactic from ground 0 just following those "rules" that were made by Arena, I am just simply translating them.
We can ask how RNG hitted those tactics to @Zippo,that's something he can for sure tell us in dettail.
Imho if i were you i would focus on sp's and roles more then a "cosmestic" line. Expand


crizeKOS said: I know u ll say that is a cosmetic stuff, but I think you should try it anyway. If u dont I ll 🤡 Expand

Dude, i've basically 1 day of delay :P in order to get my tactics getting test,i can run it later in more dettails,now is time for Chainsaw!

Delicious said: Mate,the line doesn't matter, i've proven it with those test... you can put even put sticked to the goalkeeper. The thing we don't know is how and IF the IA Assistant Manager is adapting it during game. In order to test it,you have to take 2 teams:

Basically do something like that : Since you know that pool and city are going to play CS, took them apply one normal tactic to the "choosen one" and put the tactic you want actually test to the other "one". Save before you going into the game (so you won't waste more time then you actually doing) and run this game like 50/100 times, you have to do nothing just watch the game and see what is happening.

But is basically useless if your ultimate goal is to get more point on a test league,because it will be always managed by IA and you don't really know what is happening during that game.
That's why many test league are forced to players (20) stat on play role on multiple players,because the Assistant Manager tent to move your players/swap them etc etc,that alter the result conduct of the test if you don't setup that way.
That's why the "xMas" is basically working,because players that knows how to play that role and position are like Unicorns. But once again Arena is proving that if you understand what you actually doing you can make work almost every shape. (if you find the right configuration, you can basically hit 55/56 without problems)

But if your ultimate goal is to get the highest numbers possible you just go HARD.
I've literally explained everything,because my ultimate goal is to help every player to even make their tactic from ground 0 just following those "rules" that were made by Arena, I am just simply translating them.
We can ask how RNG hitted those tactics to @Zippo,that's something he can for sure tell us in dettail.
Imho if i were you i would focus on sp's and roles more then a "cosmestic" line. Expand

Ty, finally a proper answer about the matter