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Date: 20.03.2023
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changed few roles and here are results !
tested 1 and half season with it. one time it's amazing and u have a lot of clean sheets and next time u conceade every game. weird. results are good. but i think META on this website is way different than In game cuz i was using 4231 and had few games with 5:0 wins agains't big teams and wining the league after 25/28 games but still can't get 60+ points on this test haha

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#Cospiracy

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this test only shows that it is not worth throwing tactics on this site. this tactic was created as a copy-paste with two roles changed to convince yourself of the credibility of this site. the original tactic is in 1st place(@chef  and this one loses 15 points to it. Weird but this is my last tactic that i uploaded on this website. there's no point in spending time creating and testing tactics that are monsters in the game but have some weird results here on the forum.

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DawidFM said: this test only shows that it is not worth throwing tactics on this site. this tactic was created as a copy-paste with two roles changed to convince yourself of the credibility of this site. the original tactic is in 1st place(@chef  and this one loses 15 points to it. Weird but this is my last tactic that i uploaded on this website. there's no point in spending time creating and testing tactics that are monsters in the game but have some weird results here on the forum.

Tbf you don't need an amazing tactic to get 95 points with Man City. What other teams did you test with?

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DawidFM said: this test only shows that it is not worth throwing tactics on this site. this tactic was created as a copy-paste with two roles changed to convince yourself of the credibility of this site. the original tactic is in 1st place(@chef  and this one loses 15 points to it. Weird but this is my last tactic that i uploaded on this website. there's no point in spending time creating and testing tactics that are monsters in the game but have some weird results here on the forum.

For me personally, these tactic testings are not trying to find god-tier game breaking tactic that will work with every time, but getting more and more understanding of the match engine and various parameters that affect the game.

The tactic testing runs across various team strengths and is giving the overall score when tactic is used across every scenario, but that doesn't mean it's best for you when actually playing the game.

When playing the game, I've been destroying everything even with 20th rated tactic, if my players were good in those positions.

For example, you've tested with AF-PF-AF formation and got much lower scores, it gives you information that match engine really relies on that central forward being as deep as possible and with less defensive duties.

My PF-AF-PF setup after tornado (5k+ matches) now has the same score as AF-AF-AF setup, which again, gives us the information that central AF is important, but side strikers do not necessarily have to be that deep, or could possibly have other roles.

The tactic testing here on the other hand, did co-relate well with my tests - in particular when looking at xG and xAG - the better difference I've had in my tests, the better tactic scored here - so there is some value in it. But this is testing on holiday, If I were playing it myself - I'd win everything most of the time with any top 20 tactic.

When I actually play the game and not run the tests, I mostly create my own tactic every time based on the things I know that work (looking at the tests here) and have fun with it. Set-pieces used in these top tactics are already completely unreal with defenders sometimes scoring 30+ goals a season, so it's pretty artificial anyways.

Just have fun and don't think of testing as proving your tactic is better than other tactic, but as a tool to figure out various aspects of match engine - if that interests you.

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DawidFM said: this test only shows that it is not worth throwing tactics on this site. this tactic was created as a copy-paste with two roles changed to convince yourself of the credibility of this site. the original tactic is in 1st place(@chef  and this one loses 15 points to it. Weird but this is my last tactic that i uploaded on this website. there's no point in spending time creating and testing tactics that are monsters in the game but have some weird results here on the forum.

You removed Get Stuck In, lowered tempo, made passing much shorter, added Be More Disciplined, removed play by the flanks... Hoe can you say it's a copy and paste? Maybe the changes you did were exactly the things that bring good results.

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TommyToxic said: Tbf you don't need an amazing tactic to get 95 points with Man City. What other teams did you test with?

Tested this tactic in 4 clubs here are results(no transfers + whole season on holiday):
West ham 1st and Won Conference League
Man City won League,UCL,Comunity Shield,FA CUP
Celta Vigo Won La Liga
Lens Won Ligue 1 and Coupe de France

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ZaZ said: You removed Get Stuck In, lowered tempo, made passing much shorter, added Be More Disciplined, removed play by the flanks... Hoe can you say it's a copy and paste? Maybe the changes you did were exactly the things that bring good results.

Dude, don't try it,the guy literally don't even understand or won't what you are even trying to say... Already had a discussion with him on FM-Base, he even altered all the set-pieces, because in accord to him mine are totaly crap.

Btw if you guys getting vacation-test for a point of "if the tactic worth" gl with that.

https://fm-arena.com/thread/4816-4123-delicious-pressure-ii/

Wow almost won everything with that one :)))

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