ZaZ said: Same as side.

ok

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what makes all these 0 striker formations so good this patch? i feel like they won't be so good for long

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dingus said: what makes all these 0 striker formations so good this patch? i feel like they won't be so good for long

Well, this is it for FM21. Maybe it will change on FM22, but there won't be any more match engine patches for this version.

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Really great tactic. I'm playing with a 90 percent win rate. The producer has thought of everything. congratulations.
I read all the posts in this post, and I check it every few days. I formed an emotional bond with the tactic.:blush:
I have only one wish from the producer. publish player traits recommendations for all positions.
thanks for your efforts.

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pixar said: Really great tactic. I'm playing with a 90 percent win rate. The producer has thought of everything. congratulations.
I read all the posts in this post, and I check it every few days. I formed an emotional bond with the tactic.:blush:
I have only one wish from the producer. publish player traits recommendations for all positions.
thanks for your efforts.


Thank you so much! Unfortunatelly, there isn't much to say about player traits. Just add traits that reinforce the roles (based on player instructions). For example, Move Into Channels to Shadow Strikers.

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i manage a swedish team , sure its good but whit this tactic im making wonder, lost agains PSG in the champions league final 1-0, whit this tactic but on DEFENSIVE OP!

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@ZaZ Whats your method to retrain players to new position ? I usually let player has individual training + Double Training Intensity + Add them to mentoring group.
Is this the fastest way ?

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@ta2199, the fastest way to train a player a new position is to play him at the new position as often as you can and also, have him training the new position through out individual training focus.

When a player plays at a position he naturally learns it.

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ta2199 said: @ZaZ Whats your method to retrain players to new position ? I usually let player has individual training + Double Training Intensity + Add them to mentoring group.
Is this the fastest way ?


Just like @Rince said, training focus and playing time in the position. I usually bring them as subs when the match is already won, at least until they become accomplished. There isn't much difference between accomplished and natural players, so after that point you can just use the best player.

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ta2199 said: + Add them to mentoring group.

Mentoring doesn't do anything when it comes to the playing positions.

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You can also arrange friendlies against very weak teams and play them in those in the desired position. This is probably the best method if you want to do it as fast as possible and can't really afford to play them in league matches when they are unfamiliar with the position.

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Egraam said: You can also arrange friendlies against very weak teams and play them in those in the desired position. This is probably the best method if you want to do it as fast as possible and can't really afford to play them in league matches when they are unfamiliar with the position.

You can also arrange friendlies with the reserve team and make them available, or even take command to make sure they are played in the right position. I usually do that when my second team players need match fitness.

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ZaZ said: You can also arrange friendlies with the reserve team and make them available, or even take command to make sure they are played in the right position. I usually do that when my second team players need match fitness.

I always play friendly matches with very small teams. It help the players learn new position fast. Even if when the season come and the player still not "accomplished" at the new position, when 14 days break comes just play 3 to 4 friendly matches and let the player play at the new position and he will be at least "accomplished" after those matches.

Also a little tip for newbies is that you should always start the matches with "cautious" mentality and then depend on the situation you can change to "Very Attacking" or "Positive".

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This guy is so good

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I just need to know what is the Most important attributes for deep lying playmaker .. they always being in a bad form .. not that affect like others. Thanks in advance

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Keshk said: I just need to know what is the Most important attributes for deep lying playmaker .. they always being in a bad form .. not that affect like others. Thanks in advance

They usually perform badly in any tactic using this formation. For attributes, I usually look for PAce, Acceleration, Agility and Jumping Reach.

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ZaZ said: They usually perform badly in any tactic using this formation. For attributes, I usually look for PAce, Acceleration, Agility and Jumping Reach.

I agree but would add decisions as important for this role.

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Keshk said: I just need to know what is the Most important attributes for deep lying playmaker .. they always being in a bad form .. not that affect like others. Thanks in advance

Let him take the corner if you want his score to look good

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@ZaZ : Do IWBs need to have different side strong foot than the side they are playing on? Eg: Right IWB needs to be stronger on the Left foot?

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Cazador said: @ZaZ : Do IWBs need to have different side strong foot than the side they are playing on? Eg: Right IWB needs to be stronger on the Left foot?

It's not important. Your assistant manager will give them less stars if they have same foot as side, but his opinion doesn't have any effect and you can safely ignore it.

Strong foot is needed to either cross (same side) or shoot (inverted), but IWB doesn't do any of those. In the end, it just makes it easier to pass the ball to flanks or center, but since the tactic is balanced to either direction, it doesn't make much difference at all.

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Im not sure that zaz blue is the best tactic in FM21, but im sure that in my journey with FM 21 im going to always use this tactic, what a results!
in my career i trained Bursaspor, in the mid 3th season(2th team in Turkey in this moment) i stopped use tactic from Knap and change tactic to zaz blue.
4th season i won  CL :)
(problem was  that my  2th teams has a lot of injuriersand lost 2 goals in final, but not was a huge problem. better example was semifinal with Real, 4:0 and 3:0 for me)


but the best example are my results with OM, always win, without concede goals, easy 4:0 with PSG(22-2-1 After loss with me).


Thanks, really recommended read this comments in this thread like the most important attributes, strategy for change mentality etc.

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bula1899 said: Im not sure that zaz blue is the best tactic in FM21, but im sure that in my journey with FM 21 im going to always use this tactic, what a results!
in my career i trained Bursaspor, in the mid 3th season(2th team in Turkey in this moment) i stopped use tactic from Knap and change tactic to zaz blue.
4th season i won  CL :)
(problem was  that my  2th teams has a lot of injuriersand lost 2 goals in final, but not was a huge problem. better example was semifinal with Real, 4:0 and 3:0 for me)


but the best example are my results with OM, always win, without concede goals, easy 4:0 with PSG(22-2-1 After loss with me).


Thanks, really recommended read this comments in this thread like the most important attributes, strategy for change mentality etc.


Those are some nice results, good job there!

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Thanks for the tactic

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just me said: Thanks for the tactic

That's some good management there to not let players go complacent or anxious. Good job!

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ZaZ said: That's some good management there to not let players go complacent or anxious. Good job!

thanks mate. i am also doing rotation, so i have 2 best 11. btw would it be fair to say that the DR and DL are important players for this tactic? last year my DR made 17 assists in the league.

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just me said: thanks mate. i am also doing rotation, so i have 2 best 11. btw would it be fair to say that the DR and DL are important players for this tactic? last year my DR made 17 assists in the league.

Not only important in attack, but they are also the last line of defense in attacking set pieces, so having fast wingbacks is really important to prevent counter-attacks.

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ZaZ said: Not only important in attack, but they are also the last line of defense in attacking set pieces, so having fast wingbacks is really important to prevent counter-attacks.

does the foot of the DC are important? i am playing DCL left foot and DCR right foot.

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just me said: does the foot of the DC are important? i am playing DCL left foot and DCR right foot.

Not much, but they tested here before and got the result that same foot as side is better than inverted foot, for both defenders and strikers.

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Hi just wanted to know who should take corners? If its mentioned above then extremely sorry about that.

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After several season I arrived to Aalborg. They did not have quality strikers so I decided to go back to using zaz. Their media prediction was 4th and we dominated the league. We also had a good run in the EL, where we were unlucky against OM, as in both games we had a player sent off very early. My best player has a ca of 140, but most of them are around 120, so we did cause some mayor upsets with this tactic

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