babemocni1988
OH another positive result,how lucky I am and happy
Lapidus said: As I can see no one was lucky/unlucky in that match everyone got what he deserved and you could win it if you prevented the departure of Alex Telles :)

How is that when you sad that against all big teams u need to have a lucky to beat them :)
I am trying to change my mentality and try to be happy whenever i get positive results against top 5 teams even if i get 20 shoots on goal and they got 5
Lapidus said: I see Alex Telles was sent off due to receiving the 2nd yellow card and after that Arsenal scored the 2nd goal but that could be prevented by reducing his tackling aggression or subbing him.

But the question is who was lucky there,me or Arsenal?😀
and starting thinking like you guys just i can not understand who should be unlucky here me or Arsenal :D
or I should be lucky to get a draw agains them :D
Lapidus said: Your team media prediction is 8th. Wolves media prediction is 10th. Bournemouth media prediction is 13th.

Those teams aren't much worse than your team and if you are a bit unlucky in matches against them then you can lose.

But all that really doesn't matter because at the end of the season you'll find your team's sitting above your media prediction before the season and that's the only what matters.


Ok pal thats your opinion and i have mine,i respect you and all of you who doesnt agree with me,i really love to play this game and sometimes Its realy frustrating,good FM to everyone!
Lapidus said: You don't need to be lucky in every match of the season.

Against weaker opponents it's enough just not to be unlucky and you win due to having better players and using a better tactic.

Against stronger or equal opponents you need some luck to win, especially playing away.

How many teams in the league are stronger than your team? About 7 teams? So you need to be lucky in 10-12 matches during the season.


Perfect,then explane me why i couldnt win on the start against Leeds,Everton Bournemouth and Wolves...ahh i needed lucky even there,come on pal!
ZaZ said: By the end of the season you have not only fatigue, but also more decisive matches and pressure from the title race. That makes the team perform worse if they don't have the right mentality.

i understand and agree with that but i speak about start of the season,not the end of one
Grimlock said: I can understand @babemocni1988's feeling because I also have been fallen that trap many times.

Sometimes, you can have just an incredible season due to being very lucky and that makes you think that you've found an invincible tactic and it gives you false expectations, you start to think that in the next season your results must be even better or at least as good as they are in this season and when it didn't happen you get very upset.

The RGN is huge in FM... so don't let any lucky results to trick you.


For example, I've played 2 matches with Man City vs Liverpool

In the 1st match I lost 2 : 0 and got dominated badly



Then I replayed the match using the same tactic and the same players and I won it 0 - 4 with great domination.



I just think so that you can not be lucky all season in 38 games,with different saves,winning all the time in first season with underdog...for me is mistery what happend in second season...why they are not deadly like in first,in every match at least against medium teams,like yours?
Lapidus said: All my life experience tells me that almost always an attempt to change someone's mind is just a waste of time so I won't do that. :)

Some people believe that aliens in charge of everything on the Earth. Some people believe that SI releases patches with some secret/undocumented changes to screw up their tactics. Some people believe that you get much better results when you play matches in the 2D mode instead of the 3D mode...

I'd prefer leaving people alone and allowing them to believe in what they want to believe :)


Hahhaha yeah I would sad the same thing for all of you who thinks that AI doesnt read the tactic 🤣
And i think so I was not the only one having this problems in second seasons,and people often find excuses in new singings,team moral,reputation increased and blalalala,nobody from you guys wants to admit that AI read tactics,that is the fact,happend to me even playing on other patches this year,and playing on the previous FM 2020
Factor of the lucky is big for sure but the problem was not there...problem is that your team just doesnt crush opponents like before and you start conceding stupid goals also,your match higlights are not showing like before and you dont create like before,you need insane fast players on CM,SS and Wing position to be able to fight against ME,this is why tactic doesnt stop working for big teams who have players flighting all over the pitch!
That is my opinion as i sad and i would like that someone can do to change my mind...
Lapidus said: Generally speaking, 50 matches is nothing in the scale of FM.

You don't need be lucky in all matches during the season, just in some matches against strongest opponents.

Just check one of the recent FM-Arena tests - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/990-lsplaysfm-s-4-1-2-1-2-unbreakable-diamond-2-0/

Test #3

Both teams got 261 pts( the 1st place and the 3rd place






Test #6

Both teams got 230 pts( the 2nd place and the 5th places)



I dont agree,i was strugling even against smaller teams,and got destroyed in some matches against stronger teams,remember I was dominating all the first season from day one!
ta2199 said: Here you go :

8 Points clear in the top seem ok to me

Save file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ft2oe6ui1nc5cca/Ivan_Barbic_-_West_Ham.fm/file


Lapidus this is extremly lucky again or??
ta2199 said: Here you go :

8 Points clear in the top seem ok to me

Save file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ft2oe6ui1nc5cca/Ivan_Barbic_-_West_Ham.fm/file


holiday mode or?
Lapidus said: I've looked into your save and found that your team is predicted to finish the 8th place so in the second season your team is still nothing special, it's just a mid table team. I don't get... what's your expectation? Are you expecting to get 110 pts?





Have you thought that the crazy results you got in the first season could be due to being extremely lucky?

And in the second season the extreme luck is gone and the results will be less crazy but still they will be better than your your media prediction.

It looks like some people just don't understand that sometimes in this game you can be very lucky/unlucky but that's the way the game works.


extreamly lucky in 50 games I dont think so pal :)
ZaZ said: I play with the same tactic all year long and it works fine to me. Most people also play with the same tactic for several seasons without any problem. I think there must be another reason why your team crumbles in the second season.


I realy dont know,i will play second season with new one then in 3th i will try again,because this tactic is the best one ever played in my opinion,to get 100 points with West ham first season,and won also FA cup it was insane...
ta2199 said: I have never got AI learned my team's tactic. I want to have a look on it

here is it

https://www.mediafire.com/file/nhb78nvig55t1nv/Ivan+Barbic+-+West+Ham.fm/file
this was my first 11 dominated first season
Buyed left back to replace creswell,BPD to replace Ogbona,right back to replace Fridricks,and added replacement for one shadow by Nikola Vlasic amazing Shadow...
and my results was awfull...
Magician said: @babemocni1988, I'm really not going to convince you of anything.

In my long term save with Southampton I won the EPL 5 times and during that period I won ECL 3 times and I did that with the same tactic.

So for me there's no such problem as using the same for multiple seasons. :)


Trust me that nobody more than me want to play one tactic all the time, hate to change it,because in my philosophy every manager should have a DNA or system thats make you unique,like Pep,Klop,Conte...they dont change tactics every year :)
But I realy saw in my second season that my team is not even close like in first season,tryed to change mentality,restarted games many times but i could find a reason why is not working,then i just reloaded again,put another strong different tactic and guess what,i am winning again,even if I am not happy because i changed the formation and i hate that!
ta2199 said: I have never got AI learned my team's tactic. I want to have a look on it

I would upload it,no problem,just now i play with different tactic..
Still i am not convinced..now i am playing my shadows as a strikers and they score...that was not a problem,can you explane me why i didnt see higlights almoust at all..and why team is getung results now with different tactic..THE SAME TEAM??
Filer974 said: Unbeaten with everton. Champion + carabao cup

Perfect,first season?Please play second season and let me know,i also won the league with 100 points,and fa cup also in first season