JORGISTA Final

"We are now living in the age of Jorginho"

It's just a joke

Since most attacks in FM Engine start from the side, I used fullbacks more defensively. so I could use creative 'Regista' without worries for instability.

Regista's creative passes provide a variety of attacks.

Valencia C.F achieved a double including Copa del Rey in their first season.

I would appreciate it if this tactic is tested.

He's back!

How does this one play?

commute said: He's back!

How does this one play? Expand

Well... as you see, there's a great result in my game. but i worry about rating because of empty space between midfielders and defenders

Playing good so far for me with Chelsea. Love the footie

Oh, really? good news! Like Soler in my game, hope Jorginho to record a lot of key passes.

I wil try with gladbach. I hope it works

Playing good so far for me with Chelsea. Love the footie

Gaksital said: Oh, really? good news! Like Soler in my game, hope Jorginho to record a lot of key passes. Expand

Sold Jorg sadly.

I have Rovella there.

He's been immense so far. Generates so much counter football for my team

This is your most enjoyable tactic.

I love love it.

Really hopes it gets a 6.5+ score

commute said: This is your most enjoyable tactic.

I love love it.

Really hopes it gets a 6.5+ score Expand

Thank you so much. but we still have to see if it works for the weak team.

I'm adding in v2 to this thread

* I referred to 'Valhalla' by @Pulsar, the best currently 4-1-2-3-0 tactic for FM21.

->After three tests with a top priority of reducing the goal losses, i succeeded in producing better results than v1.

1. Changed to a more stable form than extreme form of v1
2. Deleted 'pass into space' to reduce frequency of direct attacks.
3. Changed the attacking midfielder's role to focus only on scoring.
4. Regista rarely dribbles and focuses only on the key pass.
5. By broadening the attacking width, increased the frequency of channel penetration.



-> Holiday result on chelsea's first season was winning the PL with 102pts.(106goals/26losses/80g.d)

I'd like to know the test rating of this tactic.
Thank you.

Going to give this one a shot

Brilliant tacticians on this site are amazing...! I have no choice but to give up improving this tactic.

Gaksital said: Brilliant tacticians on this site are amazing...! I have no choice but to give up improving this tactic. Expand

You have a big gap in the flanks because your FB don't go up and your W advance too much. Maybe changing the FB to support would help, as well as retreating the W from AML/R to ML/R, with the same role. That would give some extra balance since RGA isn't always in his position.

Also, take a look at the actual results in the saves. For v1, in all 6 saves, at least one of your teams won the league, and you had the top 2 teams in 4/6. A score in the high 5s is still very good! It means that if your team's talent level is around average for the league, the tactic has a really good shot at giving you a title. The tactics in the high 6s or 7s will do that even if your team is below average for the league, and will make an average or better team dominate the league. But you certainly can run a tactic with a 5.8 rating and win every title.

ZaZ said: You have a big gap in the flanks because your FB don't go up and your W advance too much. Maybe changing the FB to support would help, as well as retreating the W from AML/R to ML/R, with the same role. That would give some extra balance since RGA isn't always in his position. Expand

I totally agree with the important part you pointed out! I am conducting several tests of revised tactic as you advise. If the result improves dramatically, I will post the last version.
Thank you so much for your detailed advice.


dakiri said: Also, take a look at the actual results in the saves. For v1, in all 6 saves, at least one of your teams won the league, and you had the top 2 teams in 4/6. A score in the high 5s is still very good! It means that if your team's talent level is around average for the league, the tactic has a really good shot at giving you a title. The tactics in the high 6s or 7s will do that even if your team is below average for the league, and will make an average or better team dominate the league. But you certainly can run a tactic with a 5.8 rating and win every title. Expand

Thank you for your kind words.

I'm adding in new version to this thread

With the help of brilliant tacticians, I brought the last version of my tactic for RGA.
It did very well with both Leeds and Chelsea. All these are the holiday results!





Leeds qualified for the Champions League, finished 4th in the PL table.
Chelsea won the PL with 101pts, also Carabao cup, and Champions League, achieving treble.

I'd appreciate it if this tactic is tested. thank you.

Gaksital said: I'm adding in new version to this thread

With the help of brilliant tacticians, I brought the last version of my tactic for RGA.
It did very well with both Leeds and Chelsea. All these are the holiday results!





Leeds qualified for the Champions League, finished 4th in the PL table.
Chelsea won the PL with 101pts, also Carabao cup, and Champions League, achieving treble.

I'd appreciate it if this tactic is tested. thank you. Expand

If you want other hints, I'd tell you to change your FB to either WB or IWB with support duty, since those two roles have better performance in this patch. The maximum score a tactic with FB got was 6.5, while WB and IWB were the only roles to score more than 7.0. For the same reason, you could also change your CD to BPD with defend duty. (P.S.: It doesn't mean FB and CD are bad, just that no tactic got good score with them yet.)

For more info about the best score achieved by roles and positions, you can check this link.

ZaZ said: If you want other hints, I'd tell you to change your FB to either WB or IWB with support duty, since those two roles have better performance in this patch. The maximum score a tactic with FB got was 6.5, while WB and IWB were the only roles to score more than 7.0. For the same reason, you could also change your CD to BPD with defend duty. (P.S.: It doesn't mean FB and CD are bad, just that no tactic got good score with them yet.)

For more info about the best score achieved by roles and positions, you can check this link. Expand

Great rating! now I believe it's true that data never betray. If I used BPD and IWB as your advice, I might have gotten a slightly higher rating, but it's enough.
I will usefully refer to your spreadsheet link when making tactics. Thank you.

Gaksital said: Great rating! now I believe it's true that data never betray. If I used BPD and IWB as your advice, I might have gotten a slightly higher rating, but it's enough.
I will usefully refer to your spreadsheet link when making tactics. Thank you. Expand

Just don't be too zealous about it, since if everyone follows that sheet, there will hardly be many improvements for other stuff that didn't get good results yet.

ZaZ said: Just don't be too zealous about it, since if everyone follows that sheet, there will hardly be many improvements for other stuff that didn't get good results yet. Expand

I got it. Some of the tactics I've looked at have been pretty unfamiliar, but good results.
(like this tactic - https://fm-arena.com/thread/1362-yawn-by-egraam/)

In other words, the link sheet was made after many successful tactics done.
Thank you for your good advice, though.

Gaksital said: I got it. Some of the tactics I've looked at have been pretty unfamiliar, but good results.
(like this tactic - https://fm-arena.com/thread/1362-yawn-by-egraam/)

In other words, the link sheet was made after many successful tactics done.
Thank you for your good advice, though. Expand

Yeah, the link considers all tactics tested here with score over 6.0.

Gaksital said: Great rating! now I believe it's true that data never betray. If I used BPD and IWB as your advice, I might have gotten a slightly higher rating, but it's enough.
I will usefully refer to your spreadsheet link when making tactics. Thank you. Expand

I like how your tactics play.

There's this free flowing football aspect to them. For example, I try some top rated tactics on here but they all seem so stiff. Boring. One dimensional.

Yours gives me better football. The football seems more urgent with passes streaming all across the field on zig zag patterns. It's amazing.

Thanks for this.