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Test #1
Date: 28.12.2020
Test #2
Date: 28.12.2020
Test #3
Date: 28.12.2020

ZaZ Cyan is a variation of Blue where DW is changed to WM so they can be set to cross less often, as well as cross from deep. That means they will look for through balls from wide position instead of doing the usual winger role, which is a huge change in play style. Another change is that DLP is set as DM to give more stability in the back.



Holiday tested with Manchester City and Fulham.


Here are the titles won in holiday mode (won everything) and the general performance graph.


I believe this is an improvement over Blue and is different enough to deserve some attention. I would also like to thank @healmuth and @Zippo for being patient with me despite my high number of submissions.

For people on consoles, player instructions are listed below. Except for the goalkeeper, every player have Tackle Harder, Drible More, Shoot Less Often and Take More Risks, when available, so they have been omitted from the list. The other instructions are:
SK - Su: None
BDP - De: Stay Wider
IWB - Su: Get Further Forward
DM - Su: Hold Position
CM - At: Move Into Channels
WM - Su: Get Further Forward, Cross Less Often, Cross From Deep, Run Wide With Ball, Stay Wider
SS - At: None

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Just a note. I tested the same tactics but with Cross More Often instead on WM. The result was Manchester City undefeated in the league, with 104 points, but Fulham stayed close to 60 points. Maybe it was a fluke from ManC, or maybe Fulham got bad luck in the one run. I will run tests again just in case.

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test 1

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healmuth said: test 1

Man, Fm-arena should consider work with you to speed up the test result xD

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Early crossing test - promising!

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I can confirm that early crossing produces better results. I forgot to take screenshots but i simmed with for 240 games total and Early Crossing came out on top every time.

On to test Early & Often

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healmuth said: I can confirm that early crossing produces better results. I forgot to take screenshots but i simmed with for 240 games total and Early Crossing came out on top every time.

On to test Early & Often


I am trying to identify what is the factor of improvement: crossing less often or cross from deep. If it is cross from deep, then it will be better with cross more often. The fact is that cross from byline seems weaker.

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Here's first run of Early&Often

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healmuth said: Here's first run of Early&Often

It seems pretty bad for weak team. Goal difference from top was also worse. It seems like cross less often, and if you do, cross from deep (which is like a through ball). That way he first checks for passes, then for crossing if none is available.

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2nd run.

Agreed - does not seem to suit weak teams very well.

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I have updated the main post and deleted the tactics that were being tested by @healmuth so people don't get confused. In the end, I settled with Cross Less Often From Deep.

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Need people to test this. In my tests as well as healmuth's, it performs better than Blue . However, it probably won't be scheduled for testing since they already tested a couple of my tactics in 41320 shape. Need people to confirm it is good for it to be tested and go to the table.

In the meantime, I'll take a break of making strategies and focus on just playing for a while.

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ZaZ said: Need people to test this. In my tests as well as healmuth's, it performs better than Blue . However, it probably won't be scheduled for testing since they already tested a couple of my tactics in 41320 shape. Need people to confirm it is good for it to be tested and go to the table.

In the meantime, I'll take a break of making strategies and focus on just playing for a while.

Prob later tonight I'll do some. Just enjoy the game first man :D

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ta2199 said: Prob later tonight I'll do some. Just enjoy the game first man :D

Just started my game with an amateur team from Sweden. I want to reach UCL in 4 seasons and win it after 2 or 3 years in the elite. Then I move to lowest division in England or Brazil.

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ZaZ said: Just started my game with an amateur team from Sweden. I want to reach UCL in 4 seasons and win it after 2 or 3 years in the elite. Then I move to lowest division in England or Brazil.

https://imgur.com/a/2ghaexi
Quick run with Lazio. Won C1 Cup and Seria A

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ta2199 said: https://imgur.com/a/2ghaexi
Quick run with Lazio. Won C1 Cup and Seria A


Nice! The interesting about this tactic is the way the wingers move in the game. Sometimes they have space to run to the byline, but the prefer to stop and look for a player moving into channels for a through pass. In the end, it is like an underlap, but with the shadow strikers instead of wingbacks. The game ends up flowing mostly through the middle.

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I will try again with a subtop team and then an underdog team
https://imgur.com/a/tI4u6Bq
Fiorentina
https://imgur.com/a/GZkODDa
Verona

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The results are worse than expected, despite looking better in my tests and healmuth's. Good thing I have decided to only try new tactics next patch, because it really seems like the best tactic right now is tied to that play style from the three first positions in the table. I really wanted to see different variations that could be used depending on player abilities, but I have no clue what to try anymore. I hope next patch allows some variations with similar results.

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