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Hello I was cracking up a new tactic for testing if possible.
Testing on Tottenham.
The name HoodHerkules v5.
Starting from Preston game I was testing the v5 version (earlier version was played prior)
I want to know how it compared to my previous tactic , certainly seems promising , probably even more efficient.
Won Liverpool away 0-4.

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Test results very dissapointing.
That being said I am not sure if I uploaded correct file!
I may have saved a earlier tactic as v5 by mistake.
I will rework the tactic now to try to make less Ass hopefully brang it to minimum 5 rating.

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magicnut said: Test results very dissapointing.
That being said I am not sure if I uploaded correct file!
I may have saved a earlier tactic as v5 by mistake.
I will rework the tactic now to try to make less Ass hopefully brang it to minimum 5 rating.


If you allow me to comment on it, I think you should remove the team instructions to overlap left and right. Those instructions tell your winger to hold the ball and wait for a marauding wingback to run from outside and reach the byline, crossing the ball to the center. However, inverted wing backs are set to cut to the inside, meaning they usually do underlaping movements instead. They are also set to cross less and from deep, creating a conflict in those instructions. You are also focusing the game through left and right, meaning you are enforcing that conflicting behaviour, which in turn makes your team perform worse. Play much wider is also negative, the inverted wing backs cut inside to the midfield and actually favor a short passing game, increasing your numerical advantage through the center.

Another thing that I would change is the instruction to force opponent outside. Inverted wing backs are set to sit narrower, meaning they leave more space outside that can lead to crosses. You would do better removing it or forcing opponents inside instead.

Another solution for those two problems above is to simply change inverted wing backs to wingers or full backs, instructing them to stay wider and move forward to do the overlap. That way they would do the overlap properly, benefit from playing wide and from playing through the flanks.

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ZaZ said: If you allow me to comment on it, I think you should remove the team instructions to overlap left and right. Those instructions tell your winger to hold the ball and wait for a marauding wingback to run from outside and reach the byline, crossing the ball to the center. However, inverted wing backs are set to cut to the inside, meaning they usually do underlaping movements instead. They are also set to cross less and from deep, creating a conflict in those instructions. You are also focusing the game through left and right, meaning you are enforcing that conflicting behaviour, which in turn makes your team perform worse. Play much wider is also negative, the inverted wing backs cut inside to the midfield and actually favor a short passing game, increasing your numerical advantage through the center.

Another thing that I would change is the instruction to force opponent outside. Inverted wing backs are set to sit narrower, meaning they leave more space outside that can lead to crosses. You would do better removing it or forcing opponents outside instead.

Another solution for those two problems above is to simply change inverted wing backs to wingers or full backs, instructing them to stay wider and move forward to do the overlap. That way they would do the overlap properly, benefit from playing wide and from playing through the flanks.


Overlap is a paradoxical instruction that not often does what it is nominally meant to do.
For example vujevic used overlap instruction in his 5-3-2 formation without any wingers to do overlapping runs at all.
The width of the team was picked when I noticed that the team played extremely narrow and there wasn't enough space to move the ball around. I actually found that even on maximum width with this tactic the team sometimes is too narrow for my liking.
The nature of the match engine is such that sometimes instructions have a effect on them different from its nominal describtion. For instance overlap instruction in vujevic tactic I believe helps the team involve the fullback in the game even if no "overlap run" occured.
That being said I'll look into your suggestions and think of something better eventually.
I am only making the tactic for fun after all ;)..
If I wanted to make a tactic compete with top masterpieces I'd make a no striker formation and run like 20 different variations in a test league before posting .

Btw the main purpose of using an inverted wingback as far as I know is they tend to be more solid defensively (at the expense of coming forward ofcourse).

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I think I stumbled upon a key problem in the tactic which was : the line of engagement was way too high , as a result the pressing was hardly effective. That and some other tweaks will get it polished soon  :woot: :thup: ;)
Btw if anyone wants to try my long throw setup it seems to be working incredibly well.. Just scored 2 long throw goals vs leeds :)

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