crazyfmguy93 said: HGF 4231 P112 All cups or this tactic which one is better?? Expand
Hello friend, I have been looking for a tactic for a week. I tried many tactics (in holiday mode) Finally, in the tests I did, I found that the tactic https://fm-arena.com/thread/12757-ef-4231-if-hp-p104-ac/ was the most winning. I also tested this in holiday mode by adding new managers to the teams Atalanta, Roma, Fiorentina, Bologna and Napoli. Later, I tested it in holiday mode with the teams Tottenham, Atalanta, Frankfurt, Real Sociedad by adding new managers to different leagues. All teams came 1st in the league. In my first team test in the same league, Roma came 1st, Atalanta came 2nd, Napoli came 3rd ..... They dominated the league. Roma came 1st in European matches and the other teams were eliminated either in the finals or semi-finals. I OBTAINED THESE RESULTS IN HOLIDAY MODE. I normally play all the matches myself (in important moments) and if anyone is curious, I will update my article when I play myself and finish the league. (I wrote this article from Turkish using a translation, if there are any mistakes, please excuse me and don't hesitate to ask)
Hi, sorry if this has already been mentioned, but is there any info on the types of player attributes per position that are recommended for this amazing tactic?
Johndale99 said: Hi, sorry if this has already been mentioned, but is there any info on the types of player attributes per position that are recommended for this amazing tactic? Expand
max 737 said: @Gerrard do we use any OI and shouts? Or let AM handle OI and shouts? Expand
No OIs AM Shouts
MARTINHO Shouts guide:
Score: 0-0; after 15 mins the first shout is always 'encourage'. If still 0-0 at 25 mins shout 'demand more' (in 90% of matches). If you are a small team against a top team, use 'no pressure'. If still 0-0, at 37 mins shout 'encourage' again. Repeat this cycle in the 2nd half if still 0-0.
Break from this cycle if at any point if you score. Praise the individals who scored the goal, and player that gave the assist. If the match continues 1-0 to 90 mins, no further shouts will be needed. Ive not found any shout consistently effective when 1 nil up.
If you score a second goal, again praise the individals who scored the goal and the player that gave the assist. If you score a 3rd goal, then 'priase' the entire team. (4th goal = priase goalscorer and assister, 5th goal 'praise' entire team and so on.)
If the opponents equalise, revert to the cycle of 'encourage' and 'demand more' as above, but be cautious not to use the same team shout twice in a row.
If 2 nil up or 3 nil and the opposition bring it back to 2-1 or 3-1, dont use any shout.
If ever a goal down, instead of cycling 'encourge' and 'demand more', cycle 'demand more' and 'show some passion', except however as soon as you concede the first shout should be 'encourage' (unless you had previously used the 'encourage' shout last when you were drawing).
If 2 goals down, the first shout (on immediately condeding the 2nd goal) should be 'berate'. If you continue to be 2 goals down, cycle 'berate', 'show some passion' and 'demand more'.
When you equalise, immediatley after the equalising goal goes use either 'encourge' or 'demand more' (based on your previous shouts in the match (you never want to use 'encourge' or 'demand more' twice in a row as you wont get as a good a rection), then go back to cycling these 2 shouts. Only stop this cycle if you go in front, at which time you will revert to praising the goalscorer and assister (except if you go in front to make the score 3-2, you should use that opportunity to 'praise' the entire team).
Exceptions: 2nd leg of 2 legged ties. The 2nd leg of a tie only follows these rules above if you are drawing or behind. If winning from the 1st leg, do not use any shouts as they will have poor results, that is, unless you score, then follow the above shouts for going 1-0, 2-0 and 3-0 up, or if your opponent equalised the tie on aggregate (or takes the lead on aggregate) then go back to following the above suggestions.
Hope that is clear !
Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts
FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals
Score: 0-0; after 15 mins the first shout is always 'encourage'. If still 0-0 at 25 mins shout 'demand more' (in 90% of matches). If you are a small team against a top team, use 'no pressure'. If still 0-0, at 37 mins shout 'encourage' again. Repeat this cycle in the 2nd half if still 0-0.
Break from this cycle if at any point if you score. Praise the individals who scored the goal, and player that gave the assist. If the match continues 1-0 to 90 mins, no further shouts will be needed. Ive not found any shout consistently effective when 1 nil up.
If you score a second goal, again praise the individals who scored the goal and the player that gave the assist. If you score a 3rd goal, then 'priase' the entire team. (4th goal = priase goalscorer and assister, 5th goal 'praise' entire team and so on.)
If the opponents equalise, revert to the cycle of 'encourage' and 'demand more' as above, but be cautious not to use the same team shout twice in a row.
If 2 nil up or 3 nil and the opposition bring it back to 2-1 or 3-1, dont use any shout.
If ever a goal down, instead of cycling 'encourge' and 'demand more', cycle 'demand more' and 'show some passion', except however as soon as you concede the first shout should be 'encourage' (unless you had previously used the 'encourage' shout last when you were drawing).
If 2 goals down, the first shout (on immediately condeding the 2nd goal) should be 'berate'. If you continue to be 2 goals down, cycle 'berate', 'show some passion' and 'demand more'.
When you equalise, immediatley after the equalising goal goes use either 'encourge' or 'demand more' (based on your previous shouts in the match (you never want to use 'encourge' or 'demand more' twice in a row as you wont get as a good a rection), then go back to cycling these 2 shouts. Only stop this cycle if you go in front, at which time you will revert to praising the goalscorer and assister (except if you go in front to make the score 3-2, you should use that opportunity to 'praise' the entire team).
Exceptions: 2nd leg of 2 legged ties. The 2nd leg of a tie only follows these rules above if you are drawing or behind. If winning from the 1st leg, do not use any shouts as they will have poor results, that is, unless you score, then follow the above shouts for going 1-0, 2-0 and 3-0 up, or if your opponent equalised the tie on aggregate (or takes the lead on aggregate) then go back to following the above suggestions.
Hope that is clear !
Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts
FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals Expand
So basically we can use AM shouts and no OI's? @Gerrard
Gerard say 4231 is better arena says this tactic better im confused.
crazyfmguy93 said: HGF 4231 P112 All cups or this tactic which one is better??
Hello friend, I have been looking for a tactic for a week. I tried many tactics (in holiday mode) Finally, in the tests I did, I found that the tactic https://fm-arena.com/thread/12757-ef-4231-if-hp-p104-ac/ was the most winning. I also tested this in holiday mode by adding new managers to the teams Atalanta, Roma, Fiorentina, Bologna and Napoli. Later, I tested it in holiday mode with the teams Tottenham, Atalanta, Frankfurt, Real Sociedad by adding new managers to different leagues. All teams came 1st in the league. In my first team test in the same league, Roma came 1st, Atalanta came 2nd, Napoli came 3rd ..... They dominated the league. Roma came 1st in European matches and the other teams were eliminated either in the finals or semi-finals. I OBTAINED THESE RESULTS IN HOLIDAY MODE. I normally play all the matches myself (in important moments) and if anyone is curious, I will update my article when I play myself and finish the league. (I wrote this article from Turkish using a translation, if there are any mistakes, please excuse me and don't hesitate to ask)
crazyfmguy93 said: Gerard say 4231 is better arena says this tactic better im confused.
I find with real Clubs 4231 slightly outperforms 424
Hi, sorry if this has already been mentioned, but is there any info on the types of player attributes per position that are recommended for this amazing tactic?
Johndale99 said: Hi, sorry if this has already been mentioned, but is there any info on the types of player attributes per position that are recommended for this amazing tactic?
https://community.sports-interactive.com/forums/topic/451185-knap-fm24-and-fm23-fm22_fm-21-fm-20-fm-19-tactic-list/?do=findComment&comment=14564886
Won all 6 trophies with this tactic and haal and scores 82 goals & havertz 50
Haaland scores 82 goals using this tactic
max 737 said: Haaland scores 82 goals using this tactic
Instead of taking a screenshot, this guy takes it with his phone and his feet are visible. bro what the f
mir1337 said: Instead of taking a screenshot, this guy takes it with his phone and his feet are visible. bro what the f
@Gerrard do we use any OI and shouts? Or let AM handle OI and shouts?
max 737 said: @Gerrard do we use any OI and shouts? Or let AM handle OI and shouts?
No OIs AM Shouts
MARTINHO Shouts guide:
Score: 0-0; after 15 mins the first shout is always 'encourage'. If still 0-0 at 25 mins shout 'demand more' (in 90% of matches). If you are a small team against a top team, use 'no pressure'. If still 0-0, at 37 mins shout 'encourage' again. Repeat this cycle in the 2nd half if still 0-0.
Break from this cycle if at any point if you score. Praise the individals who scored the goal, and player that gave the assist. If the match continues 1-0 to 90 mins, no further shouts will be needed. Ive not found any shout consistently effective when 1 nil up.
If you score a second goal, again praise the individals who scored the goal and the player that gave the assist. If you score a 3rd goal, then 'priase' the entire team. (4th goal = priase goalscorer and assister, 5th goal 'praise' entire team and so on.)
If the opponents equalise, revert to the cycle of 'encourage' and 'demand more' as above, but be cautious not to use the same team shout twice in a row.
If 2 nil up or 3 nil and the opposition bring it back to 2-1 or 3-1, dont use any shout.
If ever a goal down, instead of cycling 'encourge' and 'demand more', cycle 'demand more' and 'show some passion', except however as soon as you concede the first shout should be 'encourage' (unless you had previously used the 'encourage' shout last when you were drawing).
If 2 goals down, the first shout (on immediately condeding the 2nd goal) should be 'berate'. If you continue to be 2 goals down, cycle 'berate', 'show some passion' and 'demand more'.
When you equalise, immediatley after the equalising goal goes use either 'encourge' or 'demand more' (based on your previous shouts in the match (you never want to use 'encourge' or 'demand more' twice in a row as you wont get as a good a rection), then go back to cycling these 2 shouts. Only stop this cycle if you go in front, at which time you will revert to praising the goalscorer and assister (except if you go in front to make the score 3-2, you should use that opportunity to 'praise' the entire team).
Exceptions: 2nd leg of 2 legged ties. The 2nd leg of a tie only follows these rules above if you are drawing or behind. If winning from the 1st leg, do not use any shouts as they will have poor results, that is, unless you score, then follow the above shouts for going 1-0, 2-0 and 3-0 up, or if your opponent equalised the tie on aggregate (or takes the lead on aggregate) then go back to following the above suggestions.
Hope that is clear !
Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts
FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals
Gerrard said: No OIs AM Shouts
MARTINHO Shouts guide:
Score: 0-0; after 15 mins the first shout is always 'encourage'. If still 0-0 at 25 mins shout 'demand more' (in 90% of matches). If you are a small team against a top team, use 'no pressure'. If still 0-0, at 37 mins shout 'encourage' again. Repeat this cycle in the 2nd half if still 0-0.
Break from this cycle if at any point if you score. Praise the individals who scored the goal, and player that gave the assist. If the match continues 1-0 to 90 mins, no further shouts will be needed. Ive not found any shout consistently effective when 1 nil up.
If you score a second goal, again praise the individals who scored the goal and the player that gave the assist. If you score a 3rd goal, then 'priase' the entire team. (4th goal = priase goalscorer and assister, 5th goal 'praise' entire team and so on.)
If the opponents equalise, revert to the cycle of 'encourage' and 'demand more' as above, but be cautious not to use the same team shout twice in a row.
If 2 nil up or 3 nil and the opposition bring it back to 2-1 or 3-1, dont use any shout.
If ever a goal down, instead of cycling 'encourge' and 'demand more', cycle 'demand more' and 'show some passion', except however as soon as you concede the first shout should be 'encourage' (unless you had previously used the 'encourage' shout last when you were drawing).
If 2 goals down, the first shout (on immediately condeding the 2nd goal) should be 'berate'. If you continue to be 2 goals down, cycle 'berate', 'show some passion' and 'demand more'.
When you equalise, immediatley after the equalising goal goes use either 'encourge' or 'demand more' (based on your previous shouts in the match (you never want to use 'encourge' or 'demand more' twice in a row as you wont get as a good a rection), then go back to cycling these 2 shouts. Only stop this cycle if you go in front, at which time you will revert to praising the goalscorer and assister (except if you go in front to make the score 3-2, you should use that opportunity to 'praise' the entire team).
Exceptions: 2nd leg of 2 legged ties. The 2nd leg of a tie only follows these rules above if you are drawing or behind. If winning from the 1st leg, do not use any shouts as they will have poor results, that is, unless you score, then follow the above shouts for going 1-0, 2-0 and 3-0 up, or if your opponent equalised the tie on aggregate (or takes the lead on aggregate) then go back to following the above suggestions.
Hope that is clear !
Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts
FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals
So basically we can use AM shouts and no OI's? @Gerrard
max 737 said: So basically we can use AM shouts and no OI's? @Gerrard
Yep
20 champions league wins with arsenal using this tactic and set piece blue
@Gerrard Can I change mentality to cautios when playing away games against big teams? (Vallecano vs R.M)
There is a way to counter this tactic ? im playing with some friends and one guy is using this tactic and is impossible to win
Amazing what I have achieved with this tactic 25 champions league victories & now this new stadium for Arsenal in my name capacity of 1,35,000 😀
Guys, what tactic do you think is good to counter this system? Im new in the game and Im trying to understand more
Do you make any changes to whom the inside forwards man-mark when you play against teams that play with wingbacks (instead of fullbacks)?