Training is Fake, it just assigns attributes, not grows attributes: results based on a large number of tests

by harvestgreen22, Nov 6, 2024

@GeorgeFloydOverdosed between 284 and 306 I'd always go for 306 since it is also good on jumping reach

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juliius said: @harvestgreen22
Could you run a test where the schedule is:
1xQuickness and the additional focus on Strength?






As shown in the table
I mentioned this in my previous post.
Height determines the maximum limit of Jumping reach growth that can be allocated (for each season)


That is to say, theoretically, any player of any height can train to achieve 20 jumps.

for taller players, the amount of time allowed for distribution is greater (if your training schedule allows for the allocation of "Jumping Reach";) and theoretically, it is easier for them to reach 20

For players with a shorter height, if their initial "Jumping Reach" is low and they are older when you sign them, having missed out on the early growth period, it becomes much more difficult for them to reach 20

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GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: I have some free time again so I was doing my own analysis of the spreadsheets

I remove AMC and one DM from the calculations as I use a certain Knap tactic, and use the following weightings (basically from my Genie Scout Ratings file):

Acceleration 0.97
Pace 1.0
Dribbling (DC/DL/DR/AML/AMR) 0.28
Concentration (DC/DL/DR) 0.22
Anticipation 0.13
Composure 0.1
Decisions -0.3

I've selected the promising ones to examine, though I couldn't find the corresponding spreadsheet for some and I haven't looked through it all exhaustively.

Results:

113: 3.17675 + 3.1 + 0.27 + 0.627 + 0.28275 + 0.2075 - 0.645 = 7.019 | 90-90-100
284: 3.17675 + 3.375 + 0.056 + 0.385 + 0.156 + 0.115 - 0.39 = 6.874 | 5-15-5
282: 3.32225 + 3.325 + 0.056 + 0.22 + 0.04875 + 0.015 - 0.12 = 6.867 | 15-15-15
306: 3.0555 + 3.425 + 0.048 + 0.396 + 0.1495 + 0.125 - 0.36 = 6.839 | 5-5-15
276: 3.019125 + 3.175 + 0.238 + 0.473 + 0.17225 + 0.1625 - 0.45 = 6.79 | 20-15-15
150: 2.91 + 3.0625 + 0.443 + 0.605 + 0.39 + 0.275 - 0.9 = 6.7855 | 90-90-90
260: 3.0009 + 2.875 + 0.42 + 0.605 + 0.365625 + 0.23125 - 0.759375 = 6.7384 | 105-105-105
90: 2.829 + 3.0625 + 0.466 + 0.568 + 0.349 + 0.266 - 0.81 = 6.7305 | 45-45-45
97: 2.813 + 3.125 + 0.373 + 0.583 + 0.3055 + 0.24 - 0.7125 = 6.727 | 105-100-100 (what I previously suggested)
129: 2.78875 + 2.925 + 0.52266 + 0.682 + 0.39975 + 0.245 - 0.87 = 6.693 | 100-80-80
331: 2.8009 + 3.025 + 0.39666 + 0.704 + 0.391625 + 0.23 - 0.855 = 6.693 | 105-105-105
123: 2.86958 + 3.1 + 0.24266 + 0.561 + 0.289 + 0.20333 - 0.64125 = 6.624 | 65-75-75
121: 2.93425 + 3.125 + 0.084 + 0.5005 + 0.099 + 0.07375 - 0.25125 = 6.565 | 85-95-85
99: 2.9827 + 3.1 + 0.12 + 0.418 + 0.1495 + 0.105 - 0.3675 = 6.5077 | 10-10-20
328: 2.7645 + 3.05 + 0.20533 + 0.396 + 0.221 + 0.1675 - 0.465 = 6.33933
188: 2.776625 + 2.925 + 0.252 + 0.396 + 0.212875 + 0.18375 - 0.54 = 6.206 | 90-90-100

The last figure is the total % intensity for GK-Defending-Attacking groups.

Raw performance Top 5:

113: [Quickness][Match Practice][Chance Conversion][Quickness focus] - 7.019
284: [Aerial Defence][Quickness focus][All players in attack group] - 6.874
282: [Defending Wide][Quickness focus][All players in attack group] - 6.867
306: [Chance Creation][Quickness focus][All players in defend group] - 6.839
276: [Attacking Wings][Quickness focus][All players in attack group] - 6.79

High Dribbling:

113: [Quickness][Match Practice][Chance Conversion][Quickness focus] - 7.019, 0.27 dribbling
150: [Attackingx6][Quickness focus] - 6.7855, 0.443 dribbling
90: [Attackingx3][Quickness focus] - 6.7305, 0.466 dribbling
129: [Handling][Shot Stopping][Attacking][Defending][Aerial Defence][Ground Defence][Chance Creation][Chance Conversion][Quickness focus] - 6.693, 0.523 dribbling

Best overall (subjective):

113: [Quickness][Match Practice][Chance Conversion][Quickness focus] - 7.019 | 90-90-100 | 34.4 CA
284: [Aerial Defence][Quickness focus][All players in attack group] - 6.874 | 5-15-5 | 23.52 CA
306: [Chance Creation][Quickness focus][All players in defend group] - 6.839 | 5-5-15 | 23.66 CA
276: [Attacking Wings][Quickness focus][All players in attack group] - 6.79 | 20-15-15 | 29.17 CA

It's a very close contest after those, but it would be a moot point to work out, because in the above 113 is a clear winner for high PA or low match load scenarios, 284 or 306 for low PA or giving players rest, and 276 for something closer to in-between.

@harvestgreen22 Could you post or direct me to the detailed data for 243 - [速度][攻击]x2[练习赛] - [Quickness] + [Match Practice] + [Attacking] x2? I was unable to find it




It is on row 280 of the table.



CA    Passing    Crossing    Marking    Penalty taking    Technique    Corners    Long Throw    Dribbling    Tackling    Free Kick Taking    Finishing    First touch    Heading    Longshot    Flair    Positioning    Work rate    Concentration    Decision    Leadership    Aggression    Vision    Teamwork    Off the ball    Determination    Bravery    Anticipation    Composure    Acceleration    Jumping reach    Agility    Stamina    Balance    Strengh    Pace    Natual fitness


243        [速度][攻击]x2[练习赛]        [Quickness] + [Match Practice] + [Attacking] x2        [Addtional Focus Quickness]        速度    37.93    1.48    1.65    2.08    0.85    1.42    -0.62    0.13    1.63    0.95    -0.57    1.48    1.60    1.50    1.60    1.33    2.08    0.52    2.17    2.60    1.92    0.00    2.18    0.88    2.43    0.08    0.22    2.57    2.35    2.93    1.07    2.48    1.35    2.17    1.57    3.10    0.65

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Thanks @harvestgreen22 for all your amazing work. May I ask if you could add score for fm26 as well?

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harvestgreen22 said:

It is on row 280 of the table.


I mean the positional breakdown of 243

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Is there a good schedule for preseason training?

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@harvestgreen22
First of all, thanks a lot, really, for all the work made here.

I've a demand. I like the table which compare 6 to 18 attributes. Do you think it's possible to do the same thing with 6 to 12 ?

Keep the good work, thanks !

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