ZaZ said: Just added a version for underdog teams. In vacation mode with Norwich, it can consistently take them to Euro Cup (around 10 points per season more than normal Red and 20 goal difference better). @Mark, let me know if you can try this one in the lower leagues. =) Expand
Very impressive below L1 level with 3 wins and a 2nd from 4 divisions. Only 5th in L1. But overall should get you through to playing professional and then still competitive until you make the big leagues.
ZaZ said: Nice result! And it's not just against Manchester City, but Manchester City with Haaland. Expand
yea i dont have bad players but they are still city and have haaland i've still felt underdog and tried underdog one i think they did better defence with underdog mostly with normal red tactic they score too many
Mark said: Very impressive below L1 level with 3 wins and a 2nd from 4 divisions. Only 5th in L1. But overall should get you through to playing professional and then still competitive until you make the big leagues.
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Thank you for testing! I suppose that proves weaker teams don't have the stamina to keep up with high intensity tactics. I guess higher Stamina on players would help, but it's hard to tell without testing or knowing how the new stamina system works exactly.
DJJENSEN said: What should we do in a red card situation? Expand
Remove the left AF (would be my first option) or the left VOL.
ZaZ said: Thank you for testing! I suppose that proves weaker teams don't have the stamina to keep up with high intensity tactics. I guess higher Stamina on players would help, but it's hard to tell without testing or knowing how the new stamina system works exactly.
Remove the left AF (would be my first option) or the left VOL. Expand
Not sure I agree with that. I think it is more that you can make a bigger impact with tactics at lower levels. With League 1 your tactic still finished 5th with an expectation of below 16th so I wouldn't say it is a bad result. Far from it, you would still be considered very successful with that result.
I would need to test more with the Leagues above to draw more conclusions I think.
FM Arena are marking low at the moment but I have had a lot of success using combinations of 3 or 4 tactics from here that seem very successful.
Mark said: Not sure I agree with that. I think it is more that you can make a bigger impact with tactics at lower levels. With League 1 your tactic still finished 5th with an expectation of below 16th so I wouldn't say it is a bad result. Far from it, you would still be considered very successful with that result.
I would need to test more with the Leagues above to draw more conclusions I think.
FM Arena are marking low at the moment but I have had a lot of success using combinations of 3 or 4 tactics from here that seem very successful. Expand
I tried with three different tactics and everytime I lower intensity, lower team does better. It might be because of a completely different reason, but it seems to me that weaker teams don't have the intensity to keep up with higher intensity tactics. They still do well with them, but not as well as they would with lower intensity. I wish someone else could test it to see if the hypothesis stands.
ZaZ said: I tried with three different tactics and everytime I lower intensity, lower team does better. It might be because of a completely different reason, but it seems to me that weaker teams don't have the intensity to keep up with higher intensity tactics. They still do well with them, but not as well as they would with lower intensity. I wish someone else could test it to see if the hypothesis stands. Expand
I have a few more days testing left and then might have a play with that thought. It kind of makes sense. What it might mean is that as you move through the divisions you very slowly increase the intensity. Are you talking Mentality and Tempo?
Mark said: I have a few more days testing left and then might have a play with that thought. It kind of makes sense. What it might mean is that as you move through the divisions you very slowly increase the intensity. Are you talking Mentality and Tempo? Expand
Press intensity and tempo. Lowering one tick of each seemed better than lowering just one of them.
ZaZ said: Just added a version for underdog teams. In vacation mode with Norwich, it can consistently take them to Euro Cup (around 10 points per season more than normal Red and 20 goal difference better). @Mark, let me know if you can try this one in the lower leagues. =) Expand
Any chance you could tell me what you've changed in your underdog tactic with regards to the "normal" Red 1.0?
ZaZ said: Press intensity and tempo. Lowering one tick of each seemed better than lowering just one of them. Expand
Thanks. I mainly used Dragons Breath and Electro in Beta. Took Hungerford to the top of the VNS League and was offered the job at Scunthorpe who were last in L2. Took them to mid table pretty quickly. I still like the 4-1-3-0-2 formation which isn't far off last years winning formations. I am hoping they test Dragons Breath which tested so well for me in holiday mode.
I am still keen to try a few winning formations from 2020 and 2019. Then take the ones I think are best and the ones that are winning on FM Arena and give them a solid test in the lower leagues to get my starting tactic. Although, if any of mine are rated any good I will go with them.
Mark said: Thanks. I mainly used Dragons Breath and Electro in Beta. Took Hungerford to the top of the VNS League and was offered the job at Scunthorpe who were last in L2. Took them to mid table pretty quickly. I still like the 4-1-3-0-2 formation which isn't far off last years winning formations. I am hoping they test Dragons Breath which tested so well for me in holiday mode.
I am still keen to try a few winning formations from 2020 and 2019. Then take the ones I think are best and the ones that are winning on FM Arena and give them a solid test in the lower leagues to get my starting tactic. Although, if any of mine are rated any good I will go with them. Expand
I just made a new test league with editor, now I'll start testing again from scratch, starting from Red and Blue (FM21).
ZaZ said: I just made a new test league with editor, now I'll start testing again from scratch, starting from Red and Blue (FM21). Expand
After you have done them, can you use the top FM Arena tactic at the time (currently Fanecas) and Dragons Breath (my top tactic at present) to get a baseline? I am really keen to see hoe DB stacks up elsewhere.
I just created a new test league for testing, so I need to re-run the reference tests before I start testing again. After that, my tests will be more accurate, allowing me to get better tactics.
tested ZAZ RED , NO HOLLIDAY!! impressive results congrads MR. ZaZ!! i don t understand why this tactic had just 5,5 pts on test becouse i won easy premierleague with bad team for my opinion... my plan was complet rebuild squad but the problem was nobody want buy my players first few good transfers was in januar... but for my opinion if Everton like this can win PL.... a little bit tronger team can do a mirracle... so one more time very good job and i recommand this tacc for everyone....!!!
sandy said: tested ZAZ RED , NO HOLLIDAY!! impressive results congrads MR. ZaZ!! i don t understand why this tactic had just 5,5 pts on test becouse i won easy premierleague with bad team for my opinion... my plan was complet rebuild squad but the problem was nobody want buy my players first few good transfers was in januar... but for my opinion if Everton like this can win PL.... a little bit tronger team can do a mirracle... so one more time very good job and i recommand this tacc for everyone....!!! Expand
Thank you so much! Red is good, but Very Attacking can make the tactic a bit inconsistent (high risk, high reward). Like I used to say last year, any tactic with score 6+ can make you overachieve and win lots of titles, but FM22 didn't reach that yet. I believe we will start getting better tactics in the next few days.
ZaZ said: Thank you so much! Red is good, but Very Attacking can make the tactic a bit inconsistent (high risk, high reward). Like I used to say last year, any tactic with score 6+ can make you overachieve and win lots of titles, but FM22 didn't reach that yet. I believe we will start getting better tactics in the next few days. Expand Maybe you should try 4-3-3 and a lil bit modified
ZaZ said: Just added a version for underdog teams. In vacation mode with Norwich, it can consistently take them to Euro Cup (around 10 points per season more than normal Red and 20 goal difference better). @Mark, let me know if you can try this one in the lower leagues. =)
Very impressive below L1 level with 3 wins and a 2nd from 4 divisions. Only 5th in L1. But overall should get you through to playing professional and then still competitive until you make the big leagues.
What should we do in a red card situation?
ZaZ said: Nice result! And it's not just against Manchester City, but Manchester City with Haaland.
i've still felt underdog and tried underdog one 
i think they did better defence with underdog mostly with normal red tactic they score too many
yea i dont have bad players but they are still city and have haaland
DJJENSEN said: What should we do in a red card situation?
i removed 1 ST
Mark said: Very impressive below L1 level with 3 wins and a 2nd from 4 divisions. Only 5th in L1. But overall should get you through to playing professional and then still competitive until you make the big leagues.
Thank you for testing! I suppose that proves weaker teams don't have the stamina to keep up with high intensity tactics. I guess higher Stamina on players would help, but it's hard to tell without testing or knowing how the new stamina system works exactly.
DJJENSEN said: What should we do in a red card situation?
Remove the left AF (would be my first option) or the left VOL.
ZaZ said: Thank you for testing! I suppose that proves weaker teams don't have the stamina to keep up with high intensity tactics. I guess higher Stamina on players would help, but it's hard to tell without testing or knowing how the new stamina system works exactly.
Remove the left AF (would be my first option) or the left VOL.
Not sure I agree with that. I think it is more that you can make a bigger impact with tactics at lower levels. With League 1 your tactic still finished 5th with an expectation of below 16th so I wouldn't say it is a bad result. Far from it, you would still be considered very successful with that result.
I would need to test more with the Leagues above to draw more conclusions I think.
FM Arena are marking low at the moment but I have had a lot of success using combinations of 3 or 4 tactics from here that seem very successful.
Mark said: Not sure I agree with that. I think it is more that you can make a bigger impact with tactics at lower levels. With League 1 your tactic still finished 5th with an expectation of below 16th so I wouldn't say it is a bad result. Far from it, you would still be considered very successful with that result.
I would need to test more with the Leagues above to draw more conclusions I think.
FM Arena are marking low at the moment but I have had a lot of success using combinations of 3 or 4 tactics from here that seem very successful.
I tried with three different tactics and everytime I lower intensity, lower team does better. It might be because of a completely different reason, but it seems to me that weaker teams don't have the intensity to keep up with higher intensity tactics. They still do well with them, but not as well as they would with lower intensity. I wish someone else could test it to see if the hypothesis stands.
ZaZ said: I tried with three different tactics and everytime I lower intensity, lower team does better. It might be because of a completely different reason, but it seems to me that weaker teams don't have the intensity to keep up with higher intensity tactics. They still do well with them, but not as well as they would with lower intensity. I wish someone else could test it to see if the hypothesis stands.
I have a few more days testing left and then might have a play with that thought. It kind of makes sense. What it might mean is that as you move through the divisions you very slowly increase the intensity. Are you talking Mentality and Tempo?
Mark said: I have a few more days testing left and then might have a play with that thought. It kind of makes sense. What it might mean is that as you move through the divisions you very slowly increase the intensity. Are you talking Mentality and Tempo?
Press intensity and tempo. Lowering one tick of each seemed better than lowering just one of them.
ZaZ said: Just added a version for underdog teams. In vacation mode with Norwich, it can consistently take them to Euro Cup (around 10 points per season more than normal Red and 20 goal difference better). @Mark, let me know if you can try this one in the lower leagues. =)
Any chance you could tell me what you've changed in your underdog tactic with regards to the "normal" Red 1.0?
Augustin said: Any chance you could tell me what you've changed in your underdog tactic with regards to the "normal" Red 1.0?
Lowered one tick of press intensity and tempo.
ZaZ said: Press intensity and tempo. Lowering one tick of each seemed better than lowering just one of them.
Thanks. I mainly used Dragons Breath and Electro in Beta. Took Hungerford to the top of the VNS League and was offered the job at Scunthorpe who were last in L2. Took them to mid table pretty quickly. I still like the 4-1-3-0-2 formation which isn't far off last years winning formations. I am hoping they test Dragons Breath which tested so well for me in holiday mode.
I am still keen to try a few winning formations from 2020 and 2019. Then take the ones I think are best and the ones that are winning on FM Arena and give them a solid test in the lower leagues to get my starting tactic. Although, if any of mine are rated any good I will go with them.
Mark said: Thanks. I mainly used Dragons Breath and Electro in Beta. Took Hungerford to the top of the VNS League and was offered the job at Scunthorpe who were last in L2. Took them to mid table pretty quickly. I still like the 4-1-3-0-2 formation which isn't far off last years winning formations. I am hoping they test Dragons Breath which tested so well for me in holiday mode.
I am still keen to try a few winning formations from 2020 and 2019. Then take the ones I think are best and the ones that are winning on FM Arena and give them a solid test in the lower leagues to get my starting tactic. Although, if any of mine are rated any good I will go with them.
I just made a new test league with editor, now I'll start testing again from scratch, starting from Red and Blue (FM21).
ZaZ said: I just made a new test league with editor, now I'll start testing again from scratch, starting from Red and Blue (FM21).
After you have done them, can you use the top FM Arena tactic at the time (currently Fanecas) and Dragons Breath (my top tactic at present) to get a baseline? I am really keen to see hoe DB stacks up elsewhere.
i think its not a bad result
Ucan said: underdog red1.0b result
To call this newcastle team an underdog is a bold statement
Guidito said: To call this newcastle team an underdog is a bold statement
hahaaha you are right i explained it
Will you try new magics today ? @ZaZ
Ucan said: Will you try new magics today ? @ZaZ
I just created a new test league for testing, so I need to re-run the reference tests before I start testing again. After that, my tests will be more accurate, allowing me to get better tactics.
ZaZ said: I just created a new test league for testing, so I need to re-run the reference tests before I start testing again.
oh okay i see
tested ZAZ RED , NO HOLLIDAY!!
first few good transfers was in januar... but for my opinion if Everton like this can win PL.... a little bit tronger team can do a mirracle... so one more time very good job and i recommand this tacc for everyone....!!!
impressive results congrads MR. ZaZ!! i don t understand why this tactic had just 5,5 pts on test becouse i won easy premierleague with bad team for my opinion... my plan was complet rebuild squad but the problem was nobody want buy my players
sandy said: tested ZAZ RED , NO HOLLIDAY!!
first few good transfers was in januar... but for my opinion if Everton like this can win PL.... a little bit tronger team can do a mirracle... so one more time very good job and i recommand this tacc for everyone....!!!
impressive results congrads MR. ZaZ!! i don t understand why this tactic had just 5,5 pts on test becouse i won easy premierleague with bad team for my opinion... my plan was complet rebuild squad but the problem was nobody want buy my players
Thank you so much! Red is good, but Very Attacking can make the tactic a bit inconsistent (high risk, high reward). Like I used to say last year, any tactic with score 6+ can make you overachieve and win lots of titles, but FM22 didn't reach that yet. I believe we will start getting better tactics in the next few days.
ZaZ said: Thank you so much! Red is good, but Very Attacking can make the tactic a bit inconsistent (high risk, high reward). Like I used to say last year, any tactic with score 6+ can make you overachieve and win lots of titles, but FM22 didn't reach that yet. I believe we will start getting better tactics in the next few days.
Maybe you should try 4-3-3 and a lil bit modified
Hello, do you have a good tactic for small teams Zaz because I am a big fan of your tactics but it doesn't work with small teams
Momow said: Hello, do you have a good tactic for small teams Zaz because I am a big fan of your tactics but it doesn't work with small teams
Hi,
Read this - https://fm-arena.com/thread/1076-my-tactic-doesn-t-work-help-me-please/
Poacher said: Hi,
Read this - https://fm-arena.com/thread/1076-my-tactic-doesn-t-work-help-me-please/
If I have understood correctly, there are no rules for small and large teams?
Momow said: If I have understood correctly, there are no rules for small and large teams?
About what "rules" are you talking?
Just read the link I gave you it explains very well how the game works.
Momow said: Hello, do you have a good tactic for small teams Zaz because I am a big fan of your tactics but it doesn't work with small teams
Thanks! I'm trying to get something that works for any team. Meanwhile, you can try Red (Underdog).
ZaZ said: Thanks! I'm trying to get something that works for any team. Meanwhile, you can try Red (Underdog).
I'm going to try it right now and I'll give you a summary at the end of the season
Could you post an example (screenshot) of the training in preseason and during the season?
Thank you very much, great tactic!.