@Delicious I am very happy,I will upload this masterpiece in my Roma save even I don't have players for it,this is pure domination,and I love 3 striker tactics! Will inform you how is the feeling actually playing it 😉
Awesome stuff! Do you use some other tactic to close down the game in the final minutes? I just used this tactic to go 3-1 up against PSG in the 86th minute only to the concede 4 goals on stoppage time... I'm playing with a Swedish side btw so a 2 goal defeat was still a good result but it was quite the collapse at the end there.
FreddyAdu said: Awesome stuff! Do you use some other tactic to close down the game in the final minutes? I just used this tactic to go 3-1 up against PSG in the 86th minute only to the concede 4 goals on stoppage time... I'm playing with a Swedish side btw so a 2 goal defeat was still a good result but it was quite the collapse at the end there. Expand
It conceded only 47 goals which makes it one of the best defense in the test
Also, if you want to make it even more defensive then change the duty of the Volante to Support and drop 1 Striker to AM Expand
or even stay with this 433, but don't be greedy and protect the lead just dropping mentality and make some player going support\defend or even deeper on pitch usually helps
opq said: or even stay with this 433, but don't be greedy and protect the lead just dropping mentality and make some player going support\defend or even deeper on pitch usually helps Expand
Nahh... the shape is too attacking, dropping mentality won't help, it requires changing the shape to something more defensive and 4-4-2 fits very well because only what you need to do is subbing one striker for DM and that's all.
About awesome, did you reworked your training schedule? or still work like before, a lot of players asking me about that and i have no clue if you working on it and i really won't spam you out for it(because i do imagine they are alot asking for it, if they are that many to asking me about that training schedule)
Delicious said: About awesome, did you reworked your training schedule? or still work like before, a lot of players asking me about that and i have no clue if you working on it and i really won't spam you out for it(because i do imagine they are alot asking for it, if they are that many to asking me about that training schedule) Expand
The training schedule still works well, it didn't need any rework. Just remember that my schedule assumes players are set to no pitch or gym work if their condition is not excellent.
ZaZ said: The training schedule still works well, it didn't need any rework. Just remember that my schedule assumes players are set to no pitch or gym work if their condition is not excellent. Expand
Because some of them reported me that players were literally dying at min 65, that's why i am asking, i didn't really test it my self. If i have news about that will bring them to you asap
@Delicious mate when you will have a time can you review 4222 as many of us doesn't want to use wingers and this shape is very strong too,after this insane results do you have any new advice or role for 4222?
babemocni1988 said: @Delicious mate when you will have a time can you review 4222 as many of us doesn't want to use wingers and this shape is very strong too,after this insane results do you have any new advice or role for 4222? Expand
So shadows works better then AM?I also take out be more disciplined 👍,what about defensive line you think so standard is the best one?I am working on old version,n players instructions to reduce stupid shots and seems works very well,what do you think so about shot less often for all positions and I add strikers to take more risk also,seems works even better,but I don't do holiday tests only comprenhansive highlights 😉
babemocni1988 said: So shadows works better then AM?I also take out be more disciplined 👍,what about defensive line you think so standard is the best one?I am working on old version,n players instructions to reduce stupid shots and seems works very well,what do you think so about shot less often for all positions and I add strikers to take more risk also,seems works even better,but I don't do holiday tests only comprenhansive highlights 😉 Expand
If you want to add Shot less often at this point add work ball into box, i will go there when i am satisfied with tier roles (ye,i have a tier roles). About lines,there is a long story about it, more is higher more corners you will get (somehow), so more chance to generate more RNG(corners). But you are even more bangable,so with slow pack defenders ain't that great. There is always a Pro and Con factor. I don't really like to add that many PI to be honest,but maybe for some specif role is necessary. If i have to choose i would work around TI and try to find the right miscela on some specific case,like the iwb's case. But we don't know yet if that played a big part or was a fluke.
About AM/SS they are pretty same,i am just trying more setups. I am not quite sure if being flexible or structured even matter,they literally made a patch that changed everything,so it will require time and computing power of FM-Arena test (as always, played the biggest part).
I know how you play, that's why i did listen and tried out the Take fewer risk on IWBs! I do the same,it require me like 10 hours to do a season when i play.
I don't think take more risk, will play any good for those strikers,but that's doesn't mean we are not gonna try and test it out.
@Delicious, as SI has confirmed, "Take More Risk" is more about the decision that the individual player makes about how risky his moves and passes will be. So given that, we could add this PI(at least to the strikers) to improve "Pass Into Space" even more, of course with the downside of passing the ball unnecessarily forward if you don't have the right players to do so.
dzek said: @Delicious, as SI has confirmed, "Take More Risk" is more about the decision that the individual player makes about how risky his moves and passes will be. So given that, we could add this PI(at least to the strikers) to improve "Pass Into Space" even more, of course with the downside of passing the ball unnecessarily forward if you don't have the right players to do so. Expand
dzek said: @Delicious, as SI has confirmed, "Take More Risk" is more about the decision that the individual player makes about how risky his moves and passes will be. So given that, we could add this PI(at least to the strikers) to improve "Pass Into Space" even more, of course with the downside of passing the ball unnecessarily forward if you don't have the right players to do so. Expand
Where did they confirm anything?
I still believe that "Pass Into Space" and "Take More Risk" do the same thing, they encourage players do more pass into space
Delicious said: But that's 100% sure? I've saw this video 2 days ago, but how the hell is working then ?_?! Thanks to you now i want to test do early crosses... Expand He is moderator in SI official forum named "Rashidi". Everything he drops out it's confirmed by SI, at least the most out of them. You can test it by your own. I just try to help.
dzek said: He is moderator in SI official forum named "Rashidi". Everything he drops out it's confirmed by SI, at least the most out of them. You can test it by your own. I just try to help. Expand
He is just a moderator and not SI employ, he gets the information in the same way as we do and we don't know we did say to him and how he understood it.
Also, what he's saying on the video is very vague and you really can't learn anything specific from it.
Geek said: Please, no need to confuse people saying that SI has confirmed anything when they don't. Expand I'm 100% sure about it. It will be very helpful if you test it yourself and if you find anything different, it will be nice to share it with us.
babemocni1988 said: One and only @Delicious 👏👏👏
Do you ever sleep?? 😄
Sometimes 😴😴😴
Seem take fewer risk on iwbs ain't bad
@Delicious I am very happy,I will upload this masterpiece in my Roma save even I don't have players for it,this is pure domination,and I love 3 striker tactics!
Will inform you how is the feeling actually playing it 😉
Looks awesome. The only two defensive positions are CBs, the rest can be filled with attacking players
no love to Virgil Saint-Maximen
Is this a possesion tactic or more counterpressing?
DrGink said: Is this a possesion tactic or more counterpressing?
Possession tactics don't work well in FM.
Also, the possession number doesn't win matches, outscoring your opponents is what winning matches and this tactic does that.
Great work
Awesome stuff! Do you use some other tactic to close down the game in the final minutes? I just used this tactic to go 3-1 up against PSG in the 86th minute only to the concede 4 goals on stoppage time... I'm playing with a Swedish side btw so a 2 goal defeat was still a good result but it was quite the collapse at the end there.
FreddyAdu said: Awesome stuff! Do you use some other tactic to close down the game in the final minutes? I just used this tactic to go 3-1 up against PSG in the 86th minute only to the concede 4 goals on stoppage time... I'm playing with a Swedish side btw so a 2 goal defeat was still a good result but it was quite the collapse at the end there.
You can use this tactic when you need to close down the game - https://fm-arena.com/thread/4601-442-sambo-or-jiu-jitsu-viii/
It conceded only 47 goals which makes it one of the best defense in the test
Also, if you want to make it even more defensive then change the duty of the Volante to Support and drop 1 Striker to AM
Geek said: You can use this tactic when you need to close down the game - https://fm-arena.com/thread/4601-442-sambo-or-jiu-jitsu-viii/
just dropping mentality and make some player going support\defend or even deeper on pitch usually helps
It conceded only 47 goals which makes it one of the best defense in the test
Also, if you want to make it even more defensive then change the duty of the Volante to Support and drop 1 Striker to AM
or even stay with this 433, but don't be greedy and protect the lead
opq said: or even stay with this 433, but don't be greedy and protect the lead
just dropping mentality and make some player going support\defend or even deeper on pitch usually helps
Nahh... the shape is too attacking, dropping mentality won't help, it requires changing the shape to something more defensive and 4-4-2 fits very well because only what you need to do is subbing one striker for DM and that's all.
Awesome!
ZaZ said: Awesome!
About awesome, did you reworked your training schedule? or still work like before, a lot of players asking me about that and i have no clue if you working on it and i really won't spam you out for it(because i do imagine they are alot asking for it, if they are that many to asking me about that training schedule)
Delicious said: About awesome, did you reworked your training schedule? or still work like before, a lot of players asking me about that and i have no clue if you working on it and i really won't spam you out for it(because i do imagine they are alot asking for it, if they are that many to asking me about that training schedule)
The training schedule still works well, it didn't need any rework. Just remember that my schedule assumes players are set to no pitch or gym work if their condition is not excellent.
ZaZ said: The training schedule still works well, it didn't need any rework. Just remember that my schedule assumes players are set to no pitch or gym work if their condition is not excellent.
Because some of them reported me that players were literally dying at min 65, that's why i am asking, i didn't really test it my self. If i have news about that will bring them to you asap
@Delicious mate when you will have a time can you review 4222 as many of us doesn't want to use wingers and this shape is very strong too,after this insane results do you have any new advice or role for 4222?
babemocni1988 said: @Delicious mate when you will have a time can you review 4222 as many of us doesn't want to use wingers and this shape is very strong too,after this insane results do you have any new advice or role for 4222?
Don't worry, i will just die at a point.
Delicious said:
So shadows works better then AM?I also take out be more disciplined 👍,what about defensive line you think so standard is the best one?I am working on old version,n players instructions to reduce stupid shots and seems works very well,what do you think so about shot less often for all positions and I add strikers to take more risk also,seems works even better,but I don't do holiday tests only comprenhansive highlights 😉
babemocni1988 said: So shadows works better then AM?I also take out be more disciplined 👍,what about defensive line you think so standard is the best one?I am working on old version,n players instructions to reduce stupid shots and seems works very well,what do you think so about shot less often for all positions and I add strikers to take more risk also,seems works even better,but I don't do holiday tests only comprenhansive highlights 😉
If you want to add Shot less often at this point add work ball into box, i will go there when i am satisfied with tier roles (ye,i have a tier roles).
About lines,there is a long story about it, more is higher more corners you will get (somehow), so more chance to generate more RNG(corners). But you are even more bangable,so with slow pack defenders ain't that great. There is always a Pro and Con factor.
I don't really like to add that many PI to be honest,but maybe for some specif role is necessary.
If i have to choose i would work around TI and try to find the right miscela on some specific case,like the iwb's case. But we don't know yet if that played a big part or was a fluke.
About AM/SS they are pretty same,i am just trying more setups. I am not quite sure if being flexible or structured even matter,they literally made a patch that changed everything,so it will require time and computing power of FM-Arena test (as always, played the biggest part).
I know how you play, that's why i did listen and tried out the Take fewer risk on IWBs!
I do the same,it require me like 10 hours to do a season when i play.
I don't think take more risk, will play any good for those strikers,but that's doesn't mean we are not gonna try and test it out.
@Delicious, as SI has confirmed, "Take More Risk" is more about the decision that the individual player makes about how risky his moves and passes will be. So given that, we could add this PI(at least to the strikers) to improve "Pass Into Space" even more, of course with the downside of passing the ball unnecessarily forward if you don't have the right players to do so.
dzek said: @Delicious, as SI has confirmed, "Take More Risk" is more about the decision that the individual player makes about how risky his moves and passes will be. So given that, we could add this PI(at least to the strikers) to improve "Pass Into Space" even more, of course with the downside of passing the ball unnecessarily forward if you don't have the right players to do so.
Gonna try and test it don't worry!
dzek said: @Delicious, as SI has confirmed, "Take More Risk" is more about the decision that the individual player makes about how risky his moves and passes will be. So given that, we could add this PI(at least to the strikers) to improve "Pass Into Space" even more, of course with the downside of passing the ball unnecessarily forward if you don't have the right players to do so.
Where did they confirm anything?
I still believe that "Pass Into Space" and "Take More Risk" do the same thing, they encourage players do more pass into space
Geek said: Where did they confirm anything?
I still believe that "Pass Into Space" and "Take More Risk" do the same thing, they encourage players do more pass into space
To me as well,i was thinking to remove pass into space and add it only on some specific roles. I guess they meant that ?_?
Ah, wait so how it works if i give PI to take less risk... to a role but i have pass into space up? it getting overdrived as well?
@Geek & @Delicious you can see here.
dzek said: @Geek & @Delicious you can see here.
But that's 100% sure? I've saw this video 2 days ago, but how the hell is working then ?_?!
Thanks to you now i want to test do early crosses...
dzek said: @Geek & @Delicious you can see here.
First of all, the guy on the video isn't an SI employ.
He just says his vision on the subject.
He was asked whether SI confirmed his "theory" and he didn't answer anything.
Delicious said: But that's 100% sure? I've saw this video 2 days ago, but how the hell is working then ?_?!
Thanks to you now i want to test do early crosses...
He is moderator in SI official forum named "Rashidi". Everything he drops out it's confirmed by SI, at least the most out of them. You can test it by your own. I just try to help.
dzek said: @Delicious, as SI has confirmed
Please, no need to confuse people saying that SI has confirmed anything when they don't.
dzek said: He is moderator in SI official forum named "Rashidi". Everything he drops out it's confirmed by SI, at least the most out of them. You can test it by your own. I just try to help.
He is just a moderator and not SI employ, he gets the information in the same way as we do and we don't know we did say to him and how he understood it.
Also, what he's saying on the video is very vague and you really can't learn anything specific from it.
Geek said: Please, no need to confuse people saying that SI has confirmed anything when they don't.
I'm 100% sure about it. It will be very helpful if you test it yourself and if you find anything different, it will be nice to share it with us.