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Patch 23.5.0 ( N ) tests
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343 designed for these samba boys in my Newcastle save.
Test with Brentford.
Hola amigo,
this loosk good
you freeze morale and fitness?
CBP87 said: you freeze morale and fitness?
Yes cuz it has nothing to do with the arena test.
MakeSuRE said: Yes cuz it has nothing to do with the arena test.
What does it matter if it has to do with the arena test? You've frozen morale and fitness, not mentioned anything about it in your OP and tried to pass off this amazing result with Brentford. Need to be a bit more transparent with how you've set up the test. Misleading
CBP87 said: What does it matter if it has to do with the arena test? You've frozen morale and fitness, not mentioned anything about it in your OP and tried to pass off this amazing result with Brentford. Need to be a bit more transparent with how you've set up the test. Misleading
This is the only thing which people should put their eyes on.
Besides, freezing just give a better initial evaluation for one tactic in my testing folders by controlling variables, like what happened in the arena test.
MakeSuRE said: Besides, freezing just give a better initial evaluation for one tactic in my testing folders by controlling variables, like what happened in the arena test.
Yes, but there's a big difference between what you do and what fm-arena does, fm-arena freezes all the teams in the league but you freeze only your team and that gives your team a huge advantage over the AI teams.
MakeSuRE said:
This is the only thing which people should put their eyes on.
Besides, freezing just give a better initial evaluation for one tactic in my testing folders by controlling variables, like what happened in the arena test.
As @Lapidus said, you don't just freeze your own team, you freeze all the other teams too creating an equal environment. You didn't. I'll be honest, I saw the screenshots and I thought wow this tactic looks very very good, especially to win the league with Brentford but then I noticed something in one of your screenshots and it completely changed my opinion
CBP87 said: As @Lapidus said, you don't just freeze your own team, you freeze all the other teams too creating an equal environment. You didn't. I'll be honest, I saw the screenshots and I thought wow this tactic looks very very good, especially to win the league with Brentford but then I noticed something in one of your screenshots and it completely changed my opinion
Then I have to say sorry to you for my misleading.
Lapidus said: Yes, but there's a big difference between what you do and what fm-arena does, fm-arena freezes all the teams in the league but you freeze only your team and that gives your team a huge advantage over the AI teams.
For anyone who feels uncomfortable about my testing method, do plz take a critical view on all my uploaded tactics.
CBP87 said: As @Lapidus said, you don't just freeze your own team, you freeze all the other teams too creating an equal environment. You didn't. I'll be honest, I saw the screenshots and I thought wow this tactic looks very very good, especially to win the league with Brentford but then I noticed something in one of your screenshots and it completely changed my opinion
The tactic scored 52 on Arena, means is good/excellent, this thing about freezing just your team isn't anything new, i did noticed many people around(i don't mean on FM-Arena, but on the community overall,i was talking about this kind topic on my discord as well) doing it.
You are right, about is missleading but if @MakeSuRE post the tactic on FM-Arena to get it tested i don't understand where is the problem.
Simulation of a season is useless anyway, so if he do freeze one season or not, doesn't really matter.
Difference is when people start to post using those kinds of words like : "OUTSTANDING 343" "ULTIMATE 343" "EXPECTIONAL 343" "GODLIKE 343", there are more then 10 keywords that are very loved on the community in order to fishout more viewers(yes i am studying those kind of stuff at the moment), and you will download a 30 rate tactic.
Delicious said: The tactic scored 52 on Arena, means is good/excellent, this thing about freezing just your team isn't anything new, i did noticed many people around(i don't mean on FM-Arena, but on the community overall,i was talking about this kind topic on my discord as well) doing it.
You are right, about is missleading but if @MakeSuRE post the tactic on FM-Arena to get it tested i don't understand where is the problem.
Simulation of a season is useless anyway, so if he do freeze one season or not, doesn't really matter.
Difference is when people start to post using those kinds of words like : "OUTSTANDING 343" "ULTIMATE 343" "EXPECTIONAL 343" "GODLIKE 343", there are more then 10 keywords that are very loved on the community in order to fishout more viewers(yes i am studying those kind of stuff at the moment), and you will download a 30 rate tactic.
I'm not telling him how to run his tactic testing, I was pointing out that it may be helpful for him to mention that he has frozen the fitness and morale. I liked the look of this tactic and when I like the look of a tactic, I don't wait for the testing result from Arena. I assume others do that also, the arena score isn't the be all and end all for some people on here. I looked at his tactic and went wow he won the league with Brentford, this must be special. Then I noticed something in the screenshots and I immediately thought, its misleading. This is just not a site for people to get tactics tested, it's also to share tactics and I think when you are putting tactics out there for people to use, you should be telling them if you've frozen fitness and morale as it plays a big part in the result
CBP87 said: I'm not telling him how to run his tactic testing, I was pointing out that it may be helpful for him to mention that he has frozen the fitness and morale. I liked the look of this tactic and when I like the look of a tactic, I don't wait for the testing result from Arena. I assume others do that also, the arena score isn't the be all and end all for some people on here. I looked at his tactic and went wow he won the league with Brentford, this must be special. Then I noticed something in the screenshots and I immediately thought, its misleading. This is just not a site for people to get tactics tested, it's also to share tactics and I think when you are putting tactics out there for people to use, you should be telling them if you've frozen fitness and morale as it plays a big part in the result
Totaly agree about that.
I agree with @CBP87, if you "cheat" ( use editors/save/load whatever ) then there's no point in sharing your result.
I wouldn't call it "mislead people" because anyway there's little faith in what people post these days and sooner or later we'll get fm-arena test result but anyway when you post something like that then you just waste other people time because there's nothing "useful" at all in your result.
I mean if he wanted to hide it, he would've just removed the screen with the fitness part... That's how i do find out when people as you say "cheat" in order to get "viewers", attention.
But i am happy i am not the only one thinking that way about mention and stuff.
Delicious said: I mean if he wanted to hide it, he would've just removed the screen with the fitness part... That's how i do find out when people as you say "cheat" in order to get "viewers", attention.
I agree, it's not a big deal... no one dies
I just want to say that if you have a chance to test your tactic then for God sake do it properly even it might be meaningless 38 matches, no need to make it prettier than it is because anyway, there'll be an fm-arena test that reveals everything.
CBP87 said: I'm not telling him how to run his tactic testing, I was pointing out that it may be helpful for him to mention that he has frozen the fitness and morale. I liked the look of this tactic and when I like the look of a tactic, I don't wait for the testing result from Arena. I assume others do that also, the arena score isn't the be all and end all for some people on here. I looked at his tactic and went wow he won the league with Brentford, this must be special. Then I noticed something in the screenshots and I immediately thought, its misleading. This is just not a site for people to get tactics tested, it's also to share tactics and I think when you are putting tactics out there for people to use, you should be telling them if you've frozen fitness and morale as it plays a big part in the result
Actually I made the notification in my early threads, but bit by bit, I fell into laziness.