ZaZ - Water 4.0

ZaZ - Water 4.0

Now, we nee to trial it by the 6К matches test!

He is back HE IS BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Congratz i guess,but i won't hear people complain to me ^^. I have just have ultra-long queque.

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3150-424-alhamdulillah/

Delicious said: Congratz i guess,but i won't hear people complain to me ^^. I have just have ultra-long queque.

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3150-424-alhamdulillah/ Expand

Can't wait to see those tactic tested.

I bet there'll be a lot of them at the top.

@ZaZ Nice work ! Very well deserved from all your contributions to the community
@Delicious Only a matter of time before you take top spot

Chewbacca said: Can't wait to see those tactic tested.

I bet there'll be a lot of them at the top.

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It's fine,i even start to delete tactics that i feel that are not gonna hit 55+ maybe for new year we will know what is going to happen.

Just when you think it's over, Zaz comes out with something like this

The 6K test is coming for you! Be aware hero!

I was just starting to think overlaps or underlaps were essential. Good job.

tom100000000000 said: I was just starting to think overlaps or underlaps were essential. Good job. Expand

I am not sure its about the underlap/overlap in this case... My thinking is to do with the higher D line compared to the lower one. Naturally you will score more and concede more and you can see that when comparing both top tactics - same amount of points, but this one more goals.

tom100000000000 said: I was just starting to think overlaps or underlaps were essential. Good job. Expand


kjarus said: I am not sure its about the underlap/overlap in this case... My thinking is to do with the higher D line compared to the lower one. Naturally you will score more and concede more and you can see that when comparing both top tactics - same amount of points, but this one more goals. Expand

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3181-do-overlaps-make-any-difference/#comment-17770

Everything was already tested. Even the counter-press. The only thing i don't quite know and how many points is giving underlaps or not.

But if even those are considereted cosmetic options i don't know what to think.

Delicious said: https://fm-arena.com/thread/3181-do-overlaps-make-any-difference/#comment-17770

Everything was already tested. Even the counter-press. The only thing i don't quite know and how many points is giving underlaps or not.

But if even those are considereted cosmetic options i don't know what to think. Expand

Looks similar to your own base tactic

Delicious said: Everything was already tested. Even the counter-press. The only thing i don't quite know and how many points is giving underlaps or not. Expand

This testing is only conclusive if we view each instruction as being worth ‘x’ points, in total isolation of the rest of the tactic. I don’t agree it works like this.

You’ve tested the impact of overlaps…  in that exact shape/roles/instructions. For a different tactic it doesn’t necessarily translate across 1:1

how to actually test tactics?

tom100000000000 said: This testing is only conclusive if we view each instruction as being worth ‘x’ points, in total isolation of the rest of the tactic. I don’t agree it works like this.

You’ve tested the impact of overlaps…  in that exact shape/roles/instructions. For a different tactic it doesn’t necessarily translate across 1:1 Expand

Mate,it's hard to say it was tested on 4231 433 4141 4123 424 343 3412, those are the famous shapes,yet you have to consider where do you actually test something at the very moment here is like
ON -2 G.A. OFF +2 G.D.! Unfortunaly some tactics got 6k tornado test or i could show you easier.
Try to setup a league and put managers with tendecies with 20 close up and try it with On and Off.
That could be a really good test. And we can't compare yet because it need tornado test as well.

Thanks for the words! I don't think it will stay on top too long, I think there is still space to break the 60+ mark, either by me or by others.

tom100000000000 said: I was just starting to think overlaps or underlaps were essential. Good job. Expand

This version has higher chance to succeed dribbling when compared to FM22, with more dribbles completed per match, and less accuracy on passes, with way more interceptions. Playing through the middle favors passing, while playing through the flanks favors dribbling. The results from top of table confirm that.

king is back

ZaZ said: This version has higher chance to succeed dribbling when compared to FM22, with more dribbles completed per match, and less accuracy on passes, with way more interceptions. Playing through the middle favors passing, while playing through the flanks favors dribbling. The results from top of table confirm that. Expand

Great insight, cheers. Also suggests what kind of transfers to pursue, dribblers over passers (and pace over all )

pixar said: king is back Expand

Not anymore

Cherknam said: Is this tactic as strong with underdogs as other tactics? Also do the IFs get a lot of goal contributions? I have a good one but he is not performing with my current tactic. Expand

Yes, this tactic is very balanced and can be safely used by teams of any stature.

tom100000000000 said: This testing is only conclusive if we view each instruction as being worth ‘x’ points, in total isolation of the rest of the tactic. I don’t agree it works like this.

You’ve tested the impact of overlaps…  in that exact shape/roles/instructions. For a different tactic it doesn’t necessarily translate across 1:1 Expand

I would have to agree on that. My personal "feeling" is overlap/underlap instruction is really good when you have attacking fullback inside or outside - the winger will hold the ball and wait for the runs, on support duty the numbers of runs by the fullback is lower so naturally it just slows down your overall team's offensive power. That's why I think @Delicious tests showed no difference basically with it on or off. In any case, we are going off-topic here. Let's admire the new powerhouse tactic!

still pace>accel right?

the KING is baaaaaack!

Sjel said: still pace>accel right?

the KING is baaaaaack! Expand

Yeah, I would trust the results from the attribute test table.