ZaZ said: If I have one match in the week, I propose a friendly so it becomes two matches. I also delegate friendly matches to the assistant manager so it goes faster, then it usually uses the players I set before the match starts.

But having extra matches isn't worse than have a day off?
Do you think its possible to have a one game week schedule? If yes, what you recomend for training?

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Gpassosbh said: But having extra matches isn't worse than have a day off?
Do you think its possible to have a one game week schedule? If yes, what you recomend for training?


I play with 33 players, so each player only plays at most once a week. If you don't like to rotate players or play with a smaller squad, you can switch the match for a session of recovery (to prevent injuries), match practice (happiness and cohesion) and quickness training (important attributes).

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ZaZ said: I play with 33 players, so each player only plays at most once a week. If you don't like to rotate players or play with a smaller squad, you can switch the match for a session of recovery, match practice and quickness training.

Ill try.. thanks a lot

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Also if you dont want DW you can try with WM role. It offer a lots of possibility with many available PIs

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ta2199 said: Also if you dont want DW you can try with WM role. It offer a lots of possibility with many available PIs

By the way, I noticed that thing you talked earlier, of players with highest corner attribute taking corners instead of set position. I honestly don't know how to fix it, since I assumed setting a taker would kinda... set it.

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ta2199 said: This is with De Jong
I've tried change to DM(De) - The goal concede is less but still get bad point.
I got 2nd with Fullham, only 1 point behind Liverpool


I might be wrong here, but can you check if a DM with higher Jumping Reach gets better scores than a DM with lower Jumping Reach? I noticed that pattern in my DMs, but need more testing to confirm this.

P.S.: Other possibilities are Strength or Aggression, so I will be experimenting to see which one does the trick.

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ZaZ said: I might be wrong here, but can you check if a DM with higher Jumping Reach gets better scores than a DM with lower Jumping Reach? I noticed that pattern in my DMs, but need more testing to confirm this.

P.S.: Other possibilities are Strength or Aggression, so I will be experimenting to see which one does the trick.


I dont care about the DM anymore cuz I have try almost everthing I can. So usually I only bought an "Ok" player to play there and spend most of my money on other positions

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@ZaZ Hands down to you and your tactic!
After last patch I started to get frustrated as no other tactics was working for me... until I found your's.
It all makes sense in it, and I was so close with  my own tactics but still so far away.
THANK YOU!
And guess what, I'm not even trying lol I got back with a Newcastle save (only bought 1 player, Portuguese youngster), plugged in you tactic, and after 3 matches and 3 wins I beat Liverpool 5-3. I say that "I'm not even trying" because I play with Carroll and Wilson upfront LOL
Leicester 0 - Newcastle 1 (First match with this formation in January)
Newcastle 4 - Millwall 1
Newcastle 1 - Aston Villa 0
Newcastle 3 - Man City 0
Newcastle 5 - Leicester 0 (FA CUP)
Liverpool 3 - Newcastle 5
Newcastle 1 - Arsenal 3 (had to rotate)
Brighton 1 - Newcastle 3
Newcastle 5 - Southampton 1 (then I stopped)
(sorry but I'm too lazy to get to know how to post screenshots)

However... I would love this tactic to be similar but with Strikers.
I saw on other thread of yours (ZaZ 2.0), replying to other user, that he could try this formation with Strikers.
I tweaked Blue 2.2 changing SS to Pressing Forward ATT - not changing anything else, but I felt I lost something.
Can you help?
Can you do it?

Even if you can't... KUDOS to you!
Cheers!

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Accolade said: @ZaZ Hands down to you and your tactic!
After last patch I started to get frustrated as no other tactics was working for me... until I found your's.
It all makes sense in it, and I was so close with  my own tactics but still so far away.
THANK YOU!
And guess what, I'm not even trying lol I got back with a Newcastle save (only bought 1 player, Portuguese youngster), plugged in you tactic, and after 3 matches and 3 wins I beat Liverpool 5-3. I say that "I'm not even trying" because I play with Carroll and Wilson upfront LOL
Leicester 0 - Newcastle 1 (First match with this formation in January)
Newcastle 4 - Millwall 1
Newcastle 1 - Aston Villa 0
Newcastle 3 - Man City 0
Newcastle 5 - Leicester 0 (FA CUP)
Liverpool 3 - Newcastle 5
Newcastle 1 - Arsenal 3 (had to rotate)
Brighton 1 - Newcastle 3
Newcastle 5 - Southampton 1 (then I stopped)
(sorry but I'm too lazy to get to know how to post screenshots)

However... I would love this tactic to be similar but with Strikers.
I saw on other thread of yours (ZaZ 2.0), replying to other user, that he could try this formation with Strikers.
I tweaked Blue 2.2 changing SS to Pressing Forward ATT - not changing anything else, but I felt I lost something.
Can you help?
Can you do it?

Even if you can't... KUDOS to you!
Cheers!


Thanks for the compliments! I'll try getting a variation of this with two strikers. It will take some time to check the best role for strikers and if MC will stay there or be moved to AMC. I'll see if I can post it in one or two days.

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ZaZ said: Thanks for the compliments! I'll try getting a variation of this with two strikers. It will take some time to check the best role for strikers and if MC will stay there or be moved to AMC. I'll see if I can post it in one or two days.

Thanks for the effort man!
Cheers!

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Would this tactic work with me moving the 2 SS into striker postions if so which postions would suit it the best?

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DuG said: Would this tactic work with me moving the 2 SS into striker postions if so which postions would suit it the best?

As I said two posts ago, I'm working on it.

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ZaZ said: As I said two posts ago, I'm working on it.

no problem thank you, my bad for not reading the previous posts XD

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DuG said: no problem thank you, my bad for not reading the previous posts XD

No problem, I didn't mean to be rude.

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Why people want to change the tactic to play with strikers? Just retrain them to play in the AMC position, they score like crazy in the SS role.

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Btw, thanks again for the tactic @ZaZ, it's still doing wonders for me. About bad ratings in some positions, it's not the tactics fault, it's the ME fault for not recognizing that a player played well if they didn't get directly involved in key situations. However, I noticed that if you play a creative player with good passing and vision as the DLP he will get a few assists which will help improve his ratings.

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Mrcl25 said: Btw, thanks again for the tactic @ZaZ, it's still doing wonders for me. About bad ratings in some positions, it's not the tactics fault, it's the ME fault for not recognizing that a player played well if they didn't get directly involved in key situations. However, I noticed that if you play a creative player with good passing and vision as the DLP he will get a few assists which will help improve his ratings.

You are right. It's the ME.
I also get matches where the IWB has a bad rating, and when I analyze the statistics he has like 8 crosses blocked with 0% completed as in the match all I saw was trow-ins (ME counts trow-ins like crosses lol).

Si says they're on it, but I'm afraid that they changed it again for worst once more.

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@ZaZ Do you think add closing down more -> More pressing would increase the tactic efficient ?

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ta2199 said: @ZaZ Do you think add closing down more -> More pressing would increase the tactic efficient ?

No. I tested and it gets worse.

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Mrcl25 said: Why people want to change the tactic to play with strikers? Just retrain them to play in the AMC position, they score like crazy in the SS role.

because some people dont want strikerless? its boring

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Hey, somebody shared this tactic of the SI forum, along with a different tactic, but was wondering if i could make videos about them? my YouTube is www.youtube.com/rdftactics incase you want to check my videos out first.

Let me know. RDF

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RDFTactics said: Hey, somebody shared this tactic of the SI forum, along with a different tactic, but was wondering if i could make videos about them? my YouTube is www.youtube.com/rdftactics incase you want to check my videos out first.

Let me know. RDF


Sure, just add a link to the first page of this topic so people know where it came from.

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DuG said: because some people dont want strikerless? its boring

But why it's boring if the tactic performs better without strikers? And your strikers will still play and score, they just will be a little less advanced on the pitch.

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Mrcl25 said: But why it's boring if the tactic performs better without strikers? And your strikers will still play and score, they just will be a little less advanced on the pitch.

because strikerless is a fake and boring formation, there is no fun in it, its the worst formation ever to grace football manager lol

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DuG said: because strikerless is a fake and boring formation, there is no fun in it, its the worst formation ever to grace football manager lol

I don't agree with that because I find strikerless tactics play more realistic football than any other tactics in FM21.

I doesn't matter how it looks on paper more important how it plays.

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Is it me or get GK to distributed quickly seem to improve results ?

Added "Close Down Less" to CDs and DM

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Grimlock said: I don't agree with that because I find strikerless tactics play more realistic football than any other tactics in FM21.

I doesn't matter how it looks on paper more important how it plays.


i just hate it, i miss the good old days of proper formations of 433 using inside forwards etc and also i play on a online league and we have banned strikerless becuase we all hate it hense why i would like a strong 2 striker tact

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ta2199 said: Is it me or get GK to distributed quickly seem to improve results ?

Added "Close Down Less" to CDs and DM


I don't know. Gonna test it and give you some return.

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which one Is the best?

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ta2199 said: Is it me or get GK to distributed quickly seem to improve results ?

Added "Close Down Less" to CDs and DM


which tactic?

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