I just confirmed that super rest still works. This is the energy level of players after the friendly match. I saved the game, added a recovery after the match (to block super rest), and went in holiday (as trainer) for two days. I then reloaded and did the same with full rest. The player is sent home because of training intensity settings, increasing the recovery when paired with a full day of rest. You can see super rest still works because players like Nino recovered more condition when they had a full day of rest.
Haven't really looked into the new game yet, so forgive my lazy ass for maybe asking a stupid question.
How much information of stats are available in the new game? Is it the same as 26, or something closer to the previous editions, where you could actually look at certain pass maps and replay specific highlights. Lets say i want to see all my right backs crosses, can i specifically see those highlights by going to the crossing stat and watch the build up to the cross like we used to be able to?
juliius said: Haven't really looked into the new game yet, so forgive my lazy ass for maybe asking a stupid question.
How much information of stats are available in the new game? Is it the same as 26, or something closer to the previous editions, where you could actually look at certain pass maps and replay specific highlights. Lets say i want to see all my right backs crosses, can i specifically see those highlights by going to the crossing stat and watch the build up to the cross like we used to be able to? Expand
I think it is better than 26, but missing some things that were there in 24.
ZaZ said: I am playing Aldershot at National League. I have no clue what reputation they use. Expand
Then you're probably not going to feel much of a difference since Aldershot is still a very low reputation team. You should try to play a year/6 months with a top team when you have time, you'll realize immediately what I mean
Daz said: Then you're probably not going to feel much of a difference since Aldershot is still a very low reputation team. You should try to play a year/6 months with a top team when you have time, you'll realize immediately what I mean Expand
One step at a time. This season is to do a step by step explaining my decisions, so people can see how I do, to either learn or tell me how to do it better.
ZaZ said: One step at a time. This season is to do a step by step explaining my decisions, so people can see how I do, to either learn or tell me how to do it better. Expand
ZaZ said: Like I stated before I am first finding out what formations work, then I will adjust team and player instructions during my career while I watch the team play. I should start my first career in FM27 later today. It takes more tests to define what formations to use because we do not have an editor yet, or tests from FM-Arena. Now that I have some foundation, I can build up from that. Tactics are always much weaker during beta, you cannot expect to win everything with a plug and play tactic when the game was released a bit more than a day ago. Expand
I didn't mean to criticize your work, it's always been great. I only wanted to report my experience so that you could have more information from different people
Daz said: @ZaZ I played the first few months of a season over and over (starting a new game each time) with Juventus, and results have been ranging from poor to completely abysmal, using a very normal 4231 tactic that turns into a 4420 out of posession.
Something that I see nobody talking about is the manager reputation:
I STRONGLY think this would be super important in FM27 since if you start the game with a low reputation (let's say your manager only played in the lower leagues, like I want to do to make the game more realistic as if it's ME becoming a manager) the team will struggle to back you (which is already a problem, but that's always bene the case) but this will ALSO impact your tactic understanding, making the tactic MUCH worse since one of the main components of tactic understanding is "player buy-in".
In the past even while using a low rep manager I always managed to win league titles with basically every team on the first try, but this year it feels straight up impossible Expand
Thet's one thing I've noticed too, I started with AC Milan and got no reputation, and after playing all the pre-season and the first 3 months of the season, all my player don't support me because of my low reputation and so it's taking more time for them to adapt to the tactic I'm using. Last year, with the same reputation and manager, I got much better results from the very first matches
Taking a short break from my journey to test set pieces. If any of you is using my set pieces, can you please share results at end of season, like goals from corner, direct free kick and indirect free kick (scored and conceded)?
ZaZ said: Taking a short break from my journey to test set pieces. If any of you is using my set pieces, can you please share results at end of season, like goals from corner, direct free kick and indirect free kick (scored and conceded)? Expand
First of all, thank you so much for your work!
I can confirm that double intensity at full condition and full rest at slightly lower condition works really well.
In my experience, tactics only start performing consistently once I focus on tactical effectiveness in training.
However, set pieces definitely need some improvement 😅
I'm almost at the end of my second season now, and overall the results have been great! P.S. I play for Schalke
ZaZ said: I will use this area to post stuff about FM27 preview before FM Arena starts testing. I will try to keep the most important things in the first post, including my best tactics, training schedules, set pieces, views, and important hints. I will try to make initial versions as fast as possible for people interested, then test those initial versions after I make them available.
(Number in # is the rank of the tactic in my experiments, with 1 being the best.) #3. Ace of Clubs 0.1 (3430): Direct translation of Autumn 4.5 #1. Ace of Clubs 0.1 ST (343): Direct translation of Autumn 5.57 ST #9. Ace of Diamonds 0.1 (4330): Direct translation of Spring 4.3 #8. Ace of Diamonds 0.1 ST (433): Striker version of Ace of Diamonds #7. Ace of Spades 0.1 (4240): Inspired by Blue from FM21/22 #4. Ace of Spades 0.1 ST (424): Striker version of Ace of Spades #6. Ace of Hearts 0.1 (3340): A mix between Ace of Clubs and Ace of Spades #5. Ace of Hearts 0.1 ST (334): Striker version of Ace of Hearts #2. Two of Clubs 0.1 (3421): Ace of Clubs ST without wingers
Make sure to use training with double intensity, and no intensity if players are tired. Individual training should be set to Quickness and GK Shot Stopping. It is also important to leave a full rest day after matches, removing recovery if needed (usually on you have a second match during the week). Expand
Hello Zaz, which of the currently available tactics would you say is the best?
@ZaZ Saw your Aldershot career and noticed something strange. In the first post you talk about how you choose your manager reputation and said that you opted for no qualifications and the lowest possible license, but in ther screenshot I still see a "national" level reputation with 7/10 green slices of the little pie chart. Am I missing something?
I can confirm that double intensity at full condition and full rest at slightly lower condition works really well.
In my experience, tactics only start performing consistently once I focus on tactical effectiveness in training.
However, set pieces definitely need some improvement 😅
I'm almost at the end of my second season now, and overall the results have been great! P.S. I play for Schalke Expand
Thank you! I tested here, and attacking free kicks are still fine, but corners are scoring half as much as in FM26. That is probably caused by players marking better, so I need to investigate how to improve that area.
Ajax said: Hello Zaz, which of the currently available tactics would you say is the best? Expand
From mine, Ace of Clubs 0.1 ST.
HaylingZar said: After some more testing, it looks like crosses into the box are proving more effective than in 26.
I've converted ZAZ autumn 4.5, by adding a striker, and changing the inside forwards into wingers and seen great results. Definitely worth a try. Expand
Thank you for the hint, I will give a try right now.
Daz said: @ZaZ Saw your Aldershot career and noticed something strange. In the first post you talk about how you choose your manager reputation and said that you opted for no qualifications and the lowest possible license, but in ther screenshot I still see a "national" level reputation with 7/10 green slices of the little pie chart. Am I missing something? Expand
This is my profile. I think you maybe saw the reputation of the club, because mine is obscure.
Shumja said: use my tactic if you want easy win Expand
this tactic absolute banger with good opposition instruction you surpass all zaz tactic actually thx i do 96 points and 125 goal with brest in ligue 1 in 1 season very well
pixar said: Training this way stops your Tactical Effectinevess (esp. tactical understanding) from developing, which makes it even harder to get the results you want on the pitch. I played 1.5 seasons with ZaZ's schedules and the results weren't what I was hoping for. Then I spent just half a season on a different schedule and the results were impressive.
Alongside the general team schedule, I'd also recommend setting individual training for each player based on their in possession and out of possession roles. For the additional focus, go with Quickness as ZaZ suggests. Expand
Punisher said: this tactic absolute banger with good opposition instruction you surpass all zaz tactic actually thx i do 96 points and 125 goal with brest in ligue 1 in 1 season very well Expand For example, what kind of instructions regarding the opponents?
@ZaZ I am unable to select all the outfield players for rest 1 day post match. How to select? Even if all the players are highlighted when I select rest 1 day it only applies to one player and not all the selected outfield players. Can anyone help please?
max 737 said: @ZaZ I am unable to select all the outfield players for rest 1 day post match. How to select? Even if all the players are highlighted when I select rest 1 day it only applies to one player and not all the selected outfield players. Can anyone help please? Expand
Why not just use the intensity setup in training? So it automatically has your player rest if his condition is a certain level. Or am i missing something?
ZaZ said: This is my profile. I think you maybe saw the reputation of the club, because mine is obscure. Expand Wow that's odd. I'm talking about your first screenshot in you first post, that's clearly the manager reputation unless i'm missing something, maybe that's a visual bug?
max 737 said: @ZaZ I am unable to select all the outfield players for rest 1 day post match. How to select? Even if all the players are highlighted when I select rest 1 day it only applies to one player and not all the selected outfield players. Can anyone help please? Expand
Like it was commented, training intensity does that automatically for you, with the same effect.
Kamas1 said: What about atributes? Speed and Acc still king ? Expand
Yes, still king.
Daz said: Wow that's odd. I'm talking about your first screenshot in you first post, that's clearly the manager reputation unless i'm missing something, maybe that's a visual bug? Expand
Ahh, that was my profile for testing. I edited it for the save, but I guess I took the screenshot before editing it. P.S.: If I remember correctly, I took the screenshot after reducing the license to national C, then I remembered to remove background after that and did not take the screenshot again.
Still really problems with tactical understanding. I feel its really important but i dont want to focus on training schedules i hope they make it more optional
use my tactic if you want easy win
I just confirmed that super rest still works. This is the energy level of players after the friendly match. I saved the game, added a recovery after the match (to block super rest), and went in holiday (as trainer) for two days. I then reloaded and did the same with full rest. The player is sent home because of training intensity settings, increasing the recovery when paired with a full day of rest. You can see super rest still works because players like Nino recovered more condition when they had a full day of rest.
Haven't really looked into the new game yet, so forgive my lazy ass for maybe asking a stupid question.
How much information of stats are available in the new game? Is it the same as 26, or something closer to the previous editions, where you could actually look at certain pass maps and replay specific highlights. Lets say i want to see all my right backs crosses, can i specifically see those highlights by going to the crossing stat and watch the build up to the cross like we used to be able to?
juliius said: Haven't really looked into the new game yet, so forgive my lazy ass for maybe asking a stupid question.
How much information of stats are available in the new game? Is it the same as 26, or something closer to the previous editions, where you could actually look at certain pass maps and replay specific highlights. Lets say i want to see all my right backs crosses, can i specifically see those highlights by going to the crossing stat and watch the build up to the cross like we used to be able to?
I think it is better than 26, but missing some things that were there in 24.
ZaZ said: I think it is better than 26, but missing some things that were there in 24.
Cheers, gonna download it and have a faff about to see how it is.
Shumja said: use my tactic if you want easy win
Did a quick sim, seems decent. Though the points totals were low for all teams
Tars said: Did a quick sim, seems decent. Though the points totals were low for all teams
thanks you need to have a good front two which can play AML and AMR
ZaZ said: I am playing Aldershot at National League. I have no clue what reputation they use.
Then you're probably not going to feel much of a difference since Aldershot is still a very low reputation team. You should try to play a year/6 months with a top team when you have time, you'll realize immediately what I mean
Daz said: Then you're probably not going to feel much of a difference since Aldershot is still a very low reputation team. You should try to play a year/6 months with a top team when you have time, you'll realize immediately what I mean
One step at a time. This season is to do a step by step explaining my decisions, so people can see how I do, to either learn or tell me how to do it better.
ZaZ said: One step at a time. This season is to do a step by step explaining my decisions, so people can see how I do, to either learn or tell me how to do it better.
Sure man, I'm excited to see how you do!
4231 is so bad this year suggest you guys don't use it
Shumja said: 4231 is so bad this year suggest you guys don't use it
Same with 433 with a DM
ZaZ said: Like I stated before I am first finding out what formations work, then I will adjust team and player instructions during my career while I watch the team play. I should start my first career in FM27 later today. It takes more tests to define what formations to use because we do not have an editor yet, or tests from FM-Arena. Now that I have some foundation, I can build up from that. Tactics are always much weaker during beta, you cannot expect to win everything with a plug and play tactic when the game was released a bit more than a day ago.
I didn't mean to criticize your work, it's always been great. I only wanted to report my experience so that you could have more information from different people
Daz said: @ZaZ I played the first few months of a season over and over (starting a new game each time) with Juventus, and results have been ranging from poor to completely abysmal, using a very normal 4231 tactic that turns into a 4420 out of posession.
Something that I see nobody talking about is the manager reputation:
I STRONGLY think this would be super important in FM27 since if you start the game with a low reputation (let's say your manager only played in the lower leagues, like I want to do to make the game more realistic as if it's ME becoming a manager) the team will struggle to back you (which is already a problem, but that's always bene the case) but this will ALSO impact your tactic understanding, making the tactic MUCH worse since one of the main components of tactic understanding is "player buy-in".
In the past even while using a low rep manager I always managed to win league titles with basically every team on the first try, but this year it feels straight up impossible
Thet's one thing I've noticed too, I started with AC Milan and got no reputation, and after playing all the pre-season and the first 3 months of the season, all my player don't support me because of my low reputation and so it's taking more time for them to adapt to the tactic I'm using. Last year, with the same reputation and manager, I got much better results from the very first matches
Taking a short break from my journey to test set pieces. If any of you is using my set pieces, can you please share results at end of season, like goals from corner, direct free kick and indirect free kick (scored and conceded)?
ZaZ said: Taking a short break from my journey to test set pieces. If any of you is using my set pieces, can you please share results at end of season, like goals from corner, direct free kick and indirect free kick (scored and conceded)?
First of all, thank you so much for your work!
I can confirm that double intensity at full condition and full rest at slightly lower condition works really well.
In my experience, tactics only start performing consistently once I focus on tactical effectiveness in training.
However, set pieces definitely need some improvement 😅
I'm almost at the end of my second season now, and overall the results have been great!
P.S. I play for Schalke
ZaZ said: I will use this area to post stuff about FM27 preview before FM Arena starts testing. I will try to keep the most important things in the first post, including my best tactics, training schedules, set pieces, views, and important hints. I will try to make initial versions as fast as possible for people interested, then test those initial versions after I make them available.
(Number in # is the rank of the tactic in my experiments, with 1 being the best.)
#3. Ace of Clubs 0.1 (3430): Direct translation of Autumn 4.5
#1. Ace of Clubs 0.1 ST (343): Direct translation of Autumn 5.57 ST
#9. Ace of Diamonds 0.1 (4330): Direct translation of Spring 4.3
#8. Ace of Diamonds 0.1 ST (433): Striker version of Ace of Diamonds
#7. Ace of Spades 0.1 (4240): Inspired by Blue from FM21/22
#4. Ace of Spades 0.1 ST (424): Striker version of Ace of Spades
#6. Ace of Hearts 0.1 (3340): A mix between Ace of Clubs and Ace of Spades
#5. Ace of Hearts 0.1 ST (334): Striker version of Ace of Hearts
#2. Two of Clubs 0.1 (3421): Ace of Clubs ST without wingers
Make sure to use training with double intensity, and no intensity if players are tired. Individual training should be set to Quickness and GK Shot Stopping. It is also important to leave a full rest day after matches, removing recovery if needed (usually on you have a second match during the week).
Hello Zaz, which of the currently available tactics would you say is the best?
After some more testing, it looks like crosses into the box are proving more effective than in 26.
I've converted ZAZ autumn 4.5, by adding a striker, and changing the inside forwards into wingers and seen great results. Definitely worth a try.
@ZaZ Saw your Aldershot career and noticed something strange. In the first post you talk about how you choose your manager reputation and said that you opted for no qualifications and the lowest possible license, but in ther screenshot I still see a "national" level reputation with 7/10 green slices of the little pie chart. Am I missing something?
shownomercy88 said:
First of all, thank you so much for your work!
I can confirm that double intensity at full condition and full rest at slightly lower condition works really well.
In my experience, tactics only start performing consistently once I focus on tactical effectiveness in training.
However, set pieces definitely need some improvement 😅
I'm almost at the end of my second season now, and overall the results have been great!
P.S. I play for Schalke
Thank you! I tested here, and attacking free kicks are still fine, but corners are scoring half as much as in FM26. That is probably caused by players marking better, so I need to investigate how to improve that area.
Ajax said: Hello Zaz, which of the currently available tactics would you say is the best?
From mine, Ace of Clubs 0.1 ST.
HaylingZar said: After some more testing, it looks like crosses into the box are proving more effective than in 26.
I've converted ZAZ autumn 4.5, by adding a striker, and changing the inside forwards into wingers and seen great results. Definitely worth a try.
Thank you for the hint, I will give a try right now.
Daz said: @ZaZ Saw your Aldershot career and noticed something strange. In the first post you talk about how you choose your manager reputation and said that you opted for no qualifications and the lowest possible license, but in ther screenshot I still see a "national" level reputation with 7/10 green slices of the little pie chart. Am I missing something?
This is my profile. I think you maybe saw the reputation of the club, because mine is obscure.
Shumja said: use my tactic if you want easy win
this tactic absolute banger with good opposition instruction you surpass all zaz tactic actually thx i do 96 points and 125 goal with brest in ligue 1 in 1 season very well
pixar said: Training this way stops your Tactical Effectinevess (esp. tactical understanding) from developing, which makes it even harder to get the results you want on the pitch. I played 1.5 seasons with ZaZ's schedules and the results weren't what I was hoping for. Then I spent just half a season on a different schedule and the results were impressive.
Alongside the general team schedule, I'd also recommend setting individual training for each player based on their in possession and out of possession roles. For the additional focus, go with Quickness as ZaZ suggests.
So do you recommend actually training OOP now
Punisher said: this tactic absolute banger with good opposition instruction you surpass all zaz tactic actually thx i do 96 points and 125 goal with brest in ligue 1 in 1 season very well
For example, what kind of instructions regarding the opponents?
@ZaZ I am unable to select all the outfield players for rest 1 day post match. How to select? Even if all the players are highlighted when I select rest 1 day it only applies to one player and not all the selected outfield players. Can anyone help please?
max 737 said: @ZaZ I am unable to select all the outfield players for rest 1 day post match. How to select? Even if all the players are highlighted when I select rest 1 day it only applies to one player and not all the selected outfield players. Can anyone help please?
Why not just use the intensity setup in training? So it automatically has your player rest if his condition is a certain level. Or am i missing something?
Shumja said: use my tactic if you want easy win
Please share your results?
What about atributes? Speed and Acc still king ?
ZaZ said: This is my profile. I think you maybe saw the reputation of the club, because mine is obscure.
Wow that's odd. I'm talking about your first screenshot in you first post, that's clearly the manager reputation unless i'm missing something, maybe that's a visual bug?
max 737 said: @ZaZ I am unable to select all the outfield players for rest 1 day post match. How to select? Even if all the players are highlighted when I select rest 1 day it only applies to one player and not all the selected outfield players. Can anyone help please?
Like it was commented, training intensity does that automatically for you, with the same effect.
Kamas1 said: What about atributes? Speed and Acc still king ?
Yes, still king.
Daz said: Wow that's odd. I'm talking about your first screenshot in you first post, that's clearly the manager reputation unless i'm missing something, maybe that's a visual bug?
Ahh, that was my profile for testing. I edited it for the save, but I guess I took the screenshot before editing it. P.S.: If I remember correctly, I took the screenshot after reducing the license to national C, then I remembered to remove background after that and did not take the screenshot again.
Still really problems with tactical understanding. I feel its really important but i dont want to focus on training schedules
i hope they make it more optional