Sharpy said: thanks @ZaZ . with the effectiveness of this new training schedule, does it benefit you more in terms of player development, to keep youth prospects at your club and doing this training schedule rather than loaning them out to leagues of low reputation eg, premier league team loaning 17-18yr old players to league 2 for example, or better to keep around own club due to better facilities, coaching and training schedule? Expand
I would rather keep them around, but make sure to also set the same training schedule for youth teams (and put to rest automatically). Giving them official match time helps a lot, but I would rather have good facilities, training schedule and coaches.
Do you guys score a lot from set pieces? I feel like my team isn't scoring as much as it should. The board itself is unhappy with the fact that I am not making the most out of set pieces.
kvasir said: Do you guys score a lot from set pieces? I feel like my team isn't scoring as much as it should. The board itself is unhappy with the fact that I am not making the most out of set pieces.
Are these loaded automatically with the tactic?
Thank you! Expand
Yeah, they are loaded automatically with the tactic. Keep in mind that goals from set pieces can change from season to season, and it can also be affected by the characteristics of your players. For example, I had seasons where I scored as many as 30 goals from corners, while in others I scored barely 10.
Really enjoying the tactic and it's working! Just a couple of Qs. When you start with Blue 4.0 and you go 1-0 down (thankfully nit happened much) do you recommend just sticking with Blue or transitioning to green even though it is more defensive?
Also any recommendations when you get a man sent off?
Samscott83 said: Really enjoying the tactic and it's working! Just a couple of Qs. When you start with Blue 4.0 and you go 1-0 down (thankfully nit happened much) do you recommend just sticking with Blue or transitioning to green even though it is more defensive?
Also any recommendations when you get a man sent off? Expand
In the situation you described, I would stick to Blue and give some shouts to player. I would change to Green if I was the one winning, though. In short, I use Blue when I need to score, and Green when I want to play safe.
About red cards, remove a striker (or maybe a winger).
I have updated the training schedule with a slight change (match practice day changed from Tuesday to Monday). The reason for the change is because some away matches on Wednesday were overriding the Match Practice session, and I prefer that it overrides a Physical session instead.
This guy here made a very in-depth study on training sessions that corroborate my results. However, he didn't use automatic rest for players below excellent condition ( "no pitch or gym training" ), which forced him to add several resting sessions in his schedule. I believe my schedule gives better results and is more convenient (it can be used during the entire season, even during pre-season and no matter how many matches you have per week).
ZaZ said: I have updated the training schedule with a slight change (match practice day changed from Tuesday to Monday). The reason for the change is because some away matches on Wednesday were overriding the Match Practice session, and I prefer that it overrides a Physical session instead.
This guy here made a very in-depth study on training sessions that corroborate my results. However, he didn't use automatic rest for players below excellent condition ( "no pitch or gym training" ), which forced him to add several resting sessions in his schedule. I believe my schedule gives better results and is more convenient (it can be used during the entire season, even during pre-season and no matter how many matches you have per week). Expand
Interesting stuff!! I didn't see his rest settings? Did he show them?
keithb said: Interesting stuff!! I didn't see his rest settings? Did he show them?
Would you swap some physical for resistance? Expand
The resting settings of his tests are default. About Physical for Resistance, the results are the same for growth, and the gain in condition is too small, so I prefer to keep Physical for clarity (Resistance seems more of a bug, because the description doesn't match). Keep in mind that I am not saying his results are bad, it's just that he didn't consider automatic resting in his experiments.
JohnBoy1993 said: Anyone got any advice on the Wingers? Struggling for goals from them but getting plenty of assists. Expand
As long as they are contributing in other ways, it is fine. What matters is how many goals your team is scoring, and not exactly how many each position is scoring individually. To be short about it, players with high passing, crossing, vision and other creative attributes will often do more assisting than scoring, because actions with higher chance of success usually have priority in the match engine. That does not mean they are playing bad, and having a winger that scores more goals does not mean your team would perform better as a whole.
hey @ZaZ, thank you for making our miserable careers a success story with your tactics u r the best. i need an advice from you, with what tactic would you play if u have to play all season with instant result?(btw my team is weaker than the most of the teams in league) and are there things that makes playing with insant result more efficient?
sangarios said: hey @ZaZ, thank you for making our miserable careers a success story with your tactics u r the best. i need an advice from you, with what tactic would you play if u have to play all season with instant result?(btw my team is weaker than the most of the teams in league) and are there things that makes playing with insant result more efficient? Expand
Sorry, but I don't know the difference in match engine from normal mode to instant result, so I leave this question for people that have this knowledge. I don't think there should be any real difference, so you can probably just pick the tactics on the table with highest win rate. If it was me, I would use Green 5.0 against those stronger teams.
ZaZ said: The resting settings of his tests are default. About Physical for Resistance, the results are the same for growth, and the gain in condition is too small, so I prefer to keep Physical for clarity (Resistance seems more of a bug, because the description doesn't match). Keep in mind that I am not saying his results are bad, it's just that he didn't consider automatic resting in his experiments. Expand
Many thanks for your reply. Yes some good points you make - it also means your players train when they should, whereas people with perfect condition could be resting on his schedule. Match practise is such a good session and I see you have moved it in a previous post so it doesn't get changed for the games on Wednesday.
keithb said: Many thanks for your reply. Yes some good points you make - it also means your players train when they should, whereas people with perfect condition could be resting on his schedule. Match practise is such a good session and I see you have moved it in a previous post so it doesn't get changed for the games on Wednesday. Expand
Just to make it clear, I used his results as a base to do my own experiments, which reached that training routine. Credits to him, because I just couldn't test all sessions myself. It was his results that allowed me to test only the most promising options instead, narrowing the experiments.
i just tried with the wolverhampton and i am 18 iem from the premier league, i simulate the matches i don't know if it changes anything or not but for me the tactic does not work
GROSDINGO said: i just tried with the wolverhampton and i am 18 iem from the premier league, i simulate the matches i don't know if it changes anything or not but for me the tactic does not work Expand
I just noticed that when I go on vacation, the tactics change and default when I consult the composition of the matches. Which is therefore not the zaz blue tactic... I don't understand how to make the tactic remain the zaz blue once you go on vacation?
GROSDINGO said: I just noticed that when I go on vacation, the tactics change and default when I consult the composition of the matches. Which is therefore not the zaz blue tactic... I don't understand how to make the tactic remain the zaz blue once you go on vacation? Expand
When you go on vacations, there is a checkbox to use the selected tactic.
Sharpy said: thanks @ZaZ . with the effectiveness of this new training schedule, does it benefit you more in terms of player development, to keep youth prospects at your club and doing this training schedule rather than loaning them out to leagues of low reputation eg, premier league team loaning 17-18yr old players to league 2 for example, or better to keep around own club due to better facilities, coaching and training schedule?
I would rather keep them around, but make sure to also set the same training schedule for youth teams (and put to rest automatically). Giving them official match time helps a lot, but I would rather have good facilities, training schedule and coaches.
Do you guys score a lot from set pieces? I feel like my team isn't scoring as much as it should. The board itself is unhappy with the fact that I am not making the most out of set pieces.
Are these loaded automatically with the tactic?
Thank you!
kvasir said: Do you guys score a lot from set pieces? I feel like my team isn't scoring as much as it should. The board itself is unhappy with the fact that I am not making the most out of set pieces.
Are these loaded automatically with the tactic?
Thank you!
Yeah, they are loaded automatically with the tactic. Keep in mind that goals from set pieces can change from season to season, and it can also be affected by the characteristics of your players. For example, I had seasons where I scored as many as 30 goals from corners, while in others I scored barely 10.
Really enjoying the tactic and it's working! Just a couple of Qs. When you start with Blue 4.0 and you go 1-0 down (thankfully nit happened much) do you recommend just sticking with Blue or transitioning to green even though it is more defensive?
Also any recommendations when you get a man sent off?
Samscott83 said: Really enjoying the tactic and it's working! Just a couple of Qs. When you start with Blue 4.0 and you go 1-0 down (thankfully nit happened much) do you recommend just sticking with Blue or transitioning to green even though it is more defensive?
Also any recommendations when you get a man sent off?
In the situation you described, I would stick to Blue and give some shouts to player. I would change to Green if I was the one winning, though. In short, I use Blue when I need to score, and Green when I want to play safe.
About red cards, remove a striker (or maybe a winger).
About removing one player - I almost never score when I remove striker. Removing one of the wingers works better for me.
I have updated the training schedule with a slight change (match practice day changed from Tuesday to Monday). The reason for the change is because some away matches on Wednesday were overriding the Match Practice session, and I prefer that it overrides a Physical session instead.
This guy here made a very in-depth study on training sessions that corroborate my results. However, he didn't use automatic rest for players below excellent condition ( "no pitch or gym training" ), which forced him to add several resting sessions in his schedule. I believe my schedule gives better results and is more convenient (it can be used during the entire season, even during pre-season and no matter how many matches you have per week).
@ZaZ Did you see the new training video from Evidence Based FM. What are your thoughts?
Middleweight165 said: @ZaZ Did you see the new training video from Evidence Based FM. What are your thoughts?
It's in the second paragraph of the previous message.
ZaZ said: I have updated the training schedule with a slight change (match practice day changed from Tuesday to Monday). The reason for the change is because some away matches on Wednesday were overriding the Match Practice session, and I prefer that it overrides a Physical session instead.
This guy here made a very in-depth study on training sessions that corroborate my results. However, he didn't use automatic rest for players below excellent condition ( "no pitch or gym training" ), which forced him to add several resting sessions in his schedule. I believe my schedule gives better results and is more convenient (it can be used during the entire season, even during pre-season and no matter how many matches you have per week).
Interesting stuff!! I didn't see his rest settings? Did he show them?
Would you swap some physical for resistance?
keithb said: Interesting stuff!! I didn't see his rest settings? Did he show them?
Would you swap some physical for resistance?
The resting settings of his tests are default. About Physical for Resistance, the results are the same for growth, and the gain in condition is too small, so I prefer to keep Physical for clarity (Resistance seems more of a bug, because the description doesn't match). Keep in mind that I am not saying his results are bad, it's just that he didn't consider automatic resting in his experiments.
Anyone got any advice on the Wingers? Struggling for goals from them but getting plenty of assists.
JohnBoy1993 said: Anyone got any advice on the Wingers? Struggling for goals from them but getting plenty of assists.
As long as they are contributing in other ways, it is fine. What matters is how many goals your team is scoring, and not exactly how many each position is scoring individually. To be short about it, players with high passing, crossing, vision and other creative attributes will often do more assisting than scoring, because actions with higher chance of success usually have priority in the match engine. That does not mean they are playing bad, and having a winger that scores more goals does not mean your team would perform better as a whole.
hey @ZaZ, thank you for making our miserable careers a success story with your tactics
u r the best.
i need an advice from you, with what tactic would you play if u have to play all season with instant result?(btw my team is weaker than the most of the teams in league) and are there things that makes playing with insant result more efficient?
sangarios said: hey @ZaZ, thank you for making our miserable careers a success story with your tactics
u r the best.
i need an advice from you, with what tactic would you play if u have to play all season with instant result?(btw my team is weaker than the most of the teams in league) and are there things that makes playing with insant result more efficient?
Sorry, but I don't know the difference in match engine from normal mode to instant result, so I leave this question for people that have this knowledge. I don't think there should be any real difference, so you can probably just pick the tactics on the table with highest win rate. If it was me, I would use Green 5.0 against those stronger teams.
ZaZ said: The resting settings of his tests are default. About Physical for Resistance, the results are the same for growth, and the gain in condition is too small, so I prefer to keep Physical for clarity (Resistance seems more of a bug, because the description doesn't match). Keep in mind that I am not saying his results are bad, it's just that he didn't consider automatic resting in his experiments.
Many thanks for your reply. Yes some good points you make - it also means your players train when they should, whereas people with perfect condition could be resting on his schedule. Match practise is such a good session and I see you have moved it in a previous post so it doesn't get changed for the games on Wednesday.
keithb said: Many thanks for your reply. Yes some good points you make - it also means your players train when they should, whereas people with perfect condition could be resting on his schedule. Match practise is such a good session and I see you have moved it in a previous post so it doesn't get changed for the games on Wednesday.
Just to make it clear, I used his results as a base to do my own experiments, which reached that training routine. Credits to him, because I just couldn't test all sessions myself. It was his results that allowed me to test only the most promising options instead, narrowing the experiments.
hello, are your tactics still strong at this stage of the game? thank you
GROSDINGO said: hello, are your tactics still strong at this stage of the game? thank you
this tactic was tested under the current M.E. so it's for the current stage of the game
Chewbacca said: this tactic was tested under the current M.E. so it's for the current stage of the game
So this tactics is good now?
GROSDINGO said: So this tactics is good now?
it works very well for me
Chewbacca said: it works very well for me
i just tried with the wolverhampton and i am 18 iem from the premier league, i simulate the matches i don't know if it changes anything or not but for me the tactic does not work
GROSDINGO said: i just tried with the wolverhampton and i am 18 iem from the premier league, i simulate the matches i don't know if it changes anything or not but for me the tactic does not work
Did you try the instructions in the first post of Blue? Else, check this post here:
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1076-my-tactic-doesn-t-work-help-me-please/
ZaZ said: Did you try the instructions in the first post of Blue? Else, check this post here:
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1076-my-tactic-doesn-t-work-help-me-please/
I just noticed that when I go on vacation, the tactics change and default when I consult the composition of the matches. Which is therefore not the zaz blue tactic... I don't understand how to make the tactic remain the zaz blue once you go on vacation?
GROSDINGO said: I just noticed that when I go on vacation, the tactics change and default when I consult the composition of the matches. Which is therefore not the zaz blue tactic... I don't understand how to make the tactic remain the zaz blue once you go on vacation?
When you go on vacations, there is a checkbox to use the selected tactic.
ZaZ said: Did you try the instructions in the first post of Blue? Else, check this post here:
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1076-my-tactic-doesn-t-work-help-me-please/
When you go on vacations, there is a checkbox to use the selected tactic.
mhh where is this checkbox? i don't understand what you mean?
ZaZ said: Did you try the instructions in the first post of Blue? Else, check this post here:
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1076-my-tactic-doesn-t-work-help-me-please/
When you go on vacations, there is a checkbox to use the selected tactic.
oh yes sorry i didn't see that , thank you a lot
GROSDINGO said: mhh where is this checkbox? i don't understand what you mean?
oh yes sorry i didn't see that , thank you a lot
It's in the confirmation before going out on vacations, it's impossible to miss it.
ZaZ said: It's in the confirmation before going out on vacations, it's impossible to miss it.
yes sorry i found it, I will try now with aston villa and we will see .
GROSDINGO said: yes sorry i found it, I will try now with aston villa and we will see .
After 1 season the result aren't good I'm 19 in PL and I don't understand why but never mind
GROSDINGO said: After 1 season the result aren't good I'm 19 in PL and I don't understand why but never mind
There is probably something wrong with the way you are setting the tactic and going on vacation.