42121 Grass Fury 1.1

Using Positive mentality instead of Attacking

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Positive mentality....



Well done mate

CBP87 said: Positive mentality....



Well done mate Expand

Yep, just like Box Levante x Pirate 2 did, already tested with attacking and now waiting for balanced one result, already uploaded few hours ago e.e

what type of af do you need for these kind of tactics to work?
with fullbacks id imagine jumpingreach/heading since there will be a lot of crossing?

I tried "Levante x Pirate 2" but in a half season my best striker scored only 2 goals (15+ in previous seasons), but he also has heading/jumpingreach around 8..

e: Giuseppe Caso is the same type of striker it seems. Hmm

karateviktor said: what type of af do you need for these kind of tactics to work?
with fullbacks id imagine jumpingreach/heading since there will be a lot of crossing?

I tried "Levante x Pirate 2" but in a half season my best striker scored only 2 goals (15+ in previous seasons), but he also has heading/jumpingreach around 8..

e: Giuseppe Caso is the same type of striker it seems. Hmm Expand

I don't pay attention to players i use with Frosinone cause it's so bad in respect to other teams that the difference would be minimal. In my careers i use fast players with good finishing and movement off the ball, and i also watch atrributes like jumping reach, heading and aggression. I also try to have 180+ cm strikers

Have you seen team C in the last run (Test 10)? Bravo mate, Bravo. 196 points!!!
Also very consistent, looking at the points scored in the first and second run, test 1 - 3 and 4 - 6, both scored 2007 points!!

Hello friend, is your last tactic good defensively?

CBP87 said: Have you seen team C in the last run (Test 10)? Bravo mate, Bravo. 196 points!!!
Also very consistent, looking at the points scored in the first and second run, test 1 - 3 and 4 - 6, both scored 2007 points!! Expand

My aim was exactly finding a consistent tactic, glad it turned out to be pretty good!

Yuri said: Hello friend, is your last tactic good defensively? Expand

To be honest as you can see, using a striker instead of a midfielder leads to allow more goals, maybe if you want something more solid in defense, you should use 4231s like Katana one

Would it be just as effective if you flipped it the other way around?

What’s the PIs?

Toby said: What’s the PIs? Expand

Toby said: Would it be just as effective if you flipped it the other way around? Expand

Don't worry you can safely flip it, nothing bad happens.

Do you think that the pressing forward needs to be left footed or right footed ideally? And what are the key attributes to look for in the pressing forward?

Bradjc94 said: Do you think that the pressing forward needs to be left footed or right footed ideally? And what are the key attributes to look for in the pressing forward? Expand

When it comes to the attributes:

https://fm-arena.com/thread/8249-fm24-meta-player-attributes/

https://fm-arena.com/thread/5351-should-you-follow-the-highlighted-attributes-of-the-roles/

1st, 2nd, 3rd HoF Tactic Patch 24.3.0 have IF (R) and no IF (L)
does IF (R) have more impact than IF (L)
i'm curious

dakka said: 1st, 2nd, 3rd HoF Tactic Patch 24.3.0 have IF (R) and no IF (L)
does IF (R) have more impact than IF (L)
i'm curious Expand

I'm sure it's just a coincidence and if you mirror the tactics then they'll do as good as the original versions.

dakka said: 1st, 2nd, 3rd HoF Tactic Patch 24.3.0 have IF (R) and no IF (L)
does IF (R) have more impact than IF (L)
i'm curious Expand

Honestly i used PF on the left beacause in my career i have a strong right IF and many strikers, so i tried it there and then i just uploaded it as it was, i guess there isn’t a real correlation in that sense tho ahah

Gianaa9 said: Honestly i used PF on the left beacause in my career i have a strong right IF and many strikers, so i tried it there and then i just uploaded it as it was, i guess there isn’t a real correlation in that sense tho ahah Expand

So should the PF on the left ideally be right footed?

Bradjc94 said: So should the PF on the left ideally be right footed? Expand

Honestly I thought that right footed PF and left footed IF worked better, but now I’m noticing that there isn’t an actual difference, they have almost the same amount of occasions with both feet, I’d say to prefer as two footed as possible players but don’t worry too much about that

Fantastic tactic but whats up with wingers always being average when playing the game? They get good rating while playing on holiday but when i'm playing the games they always average 6,6-6,7 no matter who i use as winger, begging for a top wingerless tactic

lcfe99 said: Fantastic tactic but whats up with wingers always being average when playing the game? They get good rating while playing on holiday but when i'm playing the games they always average 6,6-6,7 no matter who i use as winger, begging for a top wingerless tactic Expand

tbh in my career IF and PF are performing better than AF, so i don’t know what’s wrong in yours, so sorry

@Gianaa9 will you test this with all pi's removed from FB's besides tackle harder? My madness tactic scored 3 points lower with all the PI's added to FB's. Maybe it's worth a try

When will the tactic reach 4,000 please?

alex said: @Gianaa9 will you test this with all pi's removed from FB's besides tackle harder? My madness tactic scored 3 points lower with all the PI's added to FB's. Maybe it's worth a try Expand

i’m not at home until monday so i will probably try it, but if you see all my “Pirate Heaven” tries i tweaked so many times FB PIs and usually using less PIs had bad result, but who knows… Thank You!!

Gianaa9 said: i’m not at home until monday so i will probably try it, but if you see all my “Pirate Heaven” tries i tweaked so many times FB PIs and usually using less PIs had bad result, but who knows… Thank You!! Expand

I also tried tweaking the pi's for FBs many times...but the only good result I got with takle harder only. Who knows..

dakka said: 1st, 2nd, 3rd HoF Tactic Patch 24.3.0 have IF (R) and no IF (L)
does IF (R) have more impact than IF (L)
i'm curious Expand
Hi dakka,

If your opponent is using IWB on one side or even both sides, you don't need to have wingers. The reason behind this, is because with the feature they advertised this year called "Positional Play", IWBs tend to move to the DM positions and thus the opponent "plays" with a player on the sides.

For example:
If the opponent is playing with two IWBs and two Ws, then they have one person on each side. Then you will get the impression and say "then why not play FB/WB/CWB and W to have an advantage in those positions?" And I'll answer you right back. You will have superiority on the sides of the field however you will be vulnerable in the middle of the field. Then, that's where you have to consider which positions are more efficient, and as it turns out, AMRL positions don't play much of a role, besides you can see it from many others who play the game complaining about the superiority of DRL positions inside the MATCH ENGINE.

So my opinion is that playing ONLY FB/WB/CWB on the side where the opponent has IWB is the maximum you can get.

Important: You are free to try/play the game as you wish and what I say above cannot be considered as a rule of the game. It is my personal opinion and if you want you can test it and share your results with us.

dzek said: For example:
If the opponent is playing with two IWBs and two Ws, then they have one person on each side. Then you will get the impression and say "then why not play FB/WB/CWB and W to have an advantage in those positions?" And I'll answer you right back. You will have superiority on the sides of the field however you will be vulnerable in the middle of the field. Then, that's where you have to consider which positions are more efficient, and as it turns out, AMRL positions don't play much of a role, besides you can see it from many others who play the game complaining about the superiority of DRL positions inside the MATCH ENGINE. Expand

Hi dzek,

Few months ago, we made tweaks to our tactic testing league and from that time there's been an equal number of AI teams that have IWB on the left side and on the right side, the same applies to Wingers and IF, also, from that point there're been AI teams without IWB at all.

So even if what you say works then it can't be applied to our testing league, because it has an equal numbers of AI teams that have IWB on the left side and on the right side.

Zippo said: Hi dzek,

Few months ago, we made tweaks to our tactic testing league and from that time there's been an equal number of AI teams that IWB on the left side and on the right side, the same applies to Wingers and IF, also, from that point there're been AI teams without IWB at all.

So even if what you say works then it can't be applied to our testing league, because it has an equal numbers of AI teams that have IWB on the left side and on the right side. Expand
Hi Zippo,

What I said above is about the regular game and not your test league. I forgot to mention that.

EDIT:  I have screenshots of all AI Teams from Patch 24.2.0 (v1.0) - Tactic Testing, for 10 tests and they all seem to have WB on the left and IWB on the right. I share them here.