Kickback (Strikerless) V7

Changes:
- Left IF to IW
- Changed right AM to CHM
- Changed ACB to BCB



Results:

Absolutely ridiculous tactic. Game breaking. Won the Champions League with Ajax with youth only in the second season.

If someone based 90% of tactic on other people work should mention that in the first post...

any individual player instructions cant download cheers

Exell said: If someone based 90% of tactic on other people work should mention that in the first post... Expand

You're joking right? You literally made a few changes to Argus and didn't mention Gerrard at all on your Diaboliq tactic OP

New game with two years of development and nothing change in ME...WTF

CBP87 said: You're joking right? You literally made a few changes to Argus and didn't mention Gerrard at all on your Diaboliq tactic OP Expand

Top 30 tactics are just slight tweaks of someone else who found meta first, which was knap this year.

White Europe said: Top 30 tactics are just slight tweaks of someone else who found meta first, which was knap this year. Expand

Exactly mate

All credit for this engine goes to Knap. But I believe that in the New Year's patch, SI should correct the dominance of the three defenders and play without a striker. Let's see who breaks the mold next.

CBP87 said: You're joking right? You literally made a few changes to Argus and didn't mention Gerrard at all on your Diaboliq tactic OP Expand

Argus and diaboliq is two complytly diffrent tactics

Eddie said: All credit for this engine goes to Knap. But I believe that in the New Year's patch, SI should correct the dominance of the three defenders and play without a striker. Let's see who breaks the mold next. Expand

I don't think this will happen, for example in FM24, the 424 has always been the dominant tactic.

Exell said: Argus and diaboliq is two complytly diffrent tactics Expand

You changed BCB to OCB and IF to IW and added tackle harder, not that much of a difference, some may say 90% or more is based on Argus

CBP87 said: You changed BCB to OCB and IF to IW and added tackle harder, not that much of a difference, some may say 90% or more is based on Argus Expand

You shoud check all PI in my tactic

Eddie said: All credit for this engine goes to Knap. But I believe that in the New Year's patch, SI should correct the dominance of the three defenders and play without a striker. Let's see who breaks the mold next. Expand

First srikerless with 3 center backs tactics come this year grom korean crearors and credists should go there

ok, in my opinion everyone can have their own opinion on everything, this is my opinion on this tactic, but don't get too nervous.
Merry Christmas to everyone and good luck in the New Year

Exell said: You shoud check all PI in my tactic Expand

Nevertheless, Diaboliq is still based on someone elses base tactic/work whether that be Knap/Gerrard or Korean creators. The whole purpose of these tests are not for people to out do each other, its so that we as a community can come up with the best possible tactic, some may even say, come up a tactic that breaks the ME (I would love that by the way). Now regardless if you feel this tactic is 90% of your work is irrelevant in my opinion, he has added something that has increased the test score and has shown us that something can work like the ACB role and I am pretty sure the rules of this site are if 2 or more changes have been made to the base tactic then you don't have to mention the base tactic creator or tactic, you can class it as your own. Come on mate, its Christmas, ligthen up

Any pi’s

White Europe said: Top 30 tactics are just slight tweaks of someone else who found meta first, which was knap this year. Expand

Autumn came before that, but Gerrard probably contributed more than me. All top tactics since the beginning of FM-Arena are improved by continuous small tweaks found by others. I think we should just be happy if we find tweaks that contribute to improve all tactics overall.

Anyone know the instructions for this tactic ? Merry Christmas everyone

Season 2, Espanyol wins the CL!

lasko911 said: Season 2, Espanyol wins the CL! Expand

You got the instructions mate ?

CBP87 said: Nevertheless, Diaboliq is still based on someone elses base tactic/work whether that be Knap/Gerrard or Korean creators. The whole purpose of these tests are not for people to out do each other, its so that we as a community can come up with the best possible tactic, some may even say, come up a tactic that breaks the ME (I would love that by the way). Now regardless if you feel this tactic is 90% of your work is irrelevant in my opinion, he has added something that has increased the test score and has shown us that something can work like the ACB role and I am pretty sure the rules of this site are if 2 or more changes have been made to the base tactic then you don't have to mention the base tactic creator or tactic, you can class it as your own. Come on mate, its Christmas, ligthen up Expand

Most of the FM24 tactics are based on @A Smile's work but he was happy tho, IDK what's the point of complaining. (Unless it's blatant plagiarism like https://fm-arena.com/thread/12768-ef-424-if-hp-v2-p101-ac-mirror-version/ and most of this user's other tactics)

@infxamus do you use any individual player instructions?

CBP87 said: Nevertheless, Diaboliq is still based on someone elses base tactic/work whether that be Knap/Gerrard or Korean creators. The whole purpose of these tests are not for people to out do each other, its so that we as a community can come up with the best possible tactic, some may even say, come up a tactic that breaks the ME (I would love that by the way). Now regardless if you feel this tactic is 90% of your work is irrelevant in my opinion, he has added something that has increased the test score and has shown us that something can work like the ACB role and I am pretty sure the rules of this site are if 2 or more changes have been made to the base tactic then you don't have to mention the base tactic creator or tactic, you can class it as your own. Come on mate, its Christmas, ligthen up Expand

And even so I've been using the ACB role in most of the tactics I've posted and looking at the differences between the 2, there are defensive PI changes on the players other than just simply changing the back 3 offensive roles, and there are differences in the team instructions as well

TurboHips said: Any pi’s Expand


TheChamp said: @infxamus do you use any individual player instructions? Expand

(Tackle harder for all positions except goalkeeper)
BCB and ACB: Take more risks
WBs: Stay wider, cross from byline, shoot less often
AM: Move into channels
CHM: Move into channels, shoot less often
IW and IF: Get further forward, Stay wider, cut inside, cross from byline
IW mark DL, IF mark DR
SS: Move into channels

infxamus said: BCB and ACB: Take more risks
WBs: Stay wider, cross from byline, shoot less often
AM: Move into channels
CHM: Move into channels, shoot less often
IW and IF: Get further forward, Stay wider, cut inside, cross from byline
IW mark DL, IF mark DR
SS: Move into channels Expand

No tackle harder ?

TurboHips said: No tackle harder ? Expand

Yes, tackle harder for all outfield positions

infxamus said: (Tackle harder for all positions except goalkeeper)
BCB and ACB: Take more risks
WBs: Stay wider, cross from byline, shoot less often
AM: Move into channels
CHM: Move into channels, shoot less often
IW and IF: Get further forward, Stay wider, cut inside, cross from byline
IW mark DL, IF mark DR
SS: Move into channels Expand

IW mark DL, IF mark DR - i guess opposite? Should be  Iw mark DR?

ZaZ said: Autumn came before that, but Gerrard probably contributed more than me. All top tactics since the beginning of FM-Arena are improved by continuous small tweaks found by others. I think we should just be happy if we find tweaks that contribute to improve all tactics overall. Expand

Agree. I remember that "Delicious" chap or whatever he was called used to get really upset about this. There's a pretty finite number of variations we can do and to get upset when people make small changes and pass it off as their own is insane, there's no money involved here.

We are a community after all, my hope has always been that our continuous breaking of the game will force SI's hand into balancing the ME and we can have a true football simulator

Alexandru said: IW mark DL, IF mark DR - i guess opposite? Should be  Iw mark DR? Expand

Left winger marks DR and the right winger will mark DL

When playing a team with wingbacks use mark WBR and WBL