Gianaa9 said: How can you have a so rapid test run? It will be so useful e.e Expand
As i said there are many ways to make a test faster and i am using the old model, i didn't yet finished my web site did some craps around, lost even 100+ tactics in the process and on overall i tested more then 800 tactics at the moment, 500+ on 4k games.
Now i am trying to understand how to make discord api interacting with the Site, so i won't even upload the tactics over my test machine.
Here for example is easier because the forum is doing that part. But i am not really interested yet to build a forum. Prefer to have my community on discord.
I made the threshold for "PERFECT/BRILLIANT/POTATO" material. So we know already they gonna be super bad.
I mean there is a way to make this schedule with "by creating cups", but i didn't yet understand how to make it into a league (didn't really checked it yet), but if people won't share their knowdledge i do pretty understand why.
Chriswin4 said: Definitely interested, would it create scores we can compare to fm arena tests? Expand Briefly, perhaps. We should not forget the RNG factor but only time will prove it if it comes close to the results of FM-Arena
As I have said above but you probably didn't even bother to read, the test league is still not quite ready. When I feel it's ready and I WANT it, I'll give it away publicly or to those who have shown interest here. We have a life outside of here you know. If you can't wait then you can create your own and I'm sure no one will stop you from doing it. If on the other hand you can't create your own and want something ready then please be patient!
Thank you so much for your interest!
Edit: Just so you know I've spent almost 1-2 months perfecting it and I wasn't going to upload it. I made the decision to upload it and all I ask is patience. Appreciate a little of the work others do for you and learn not to demand once you get it for free. Expand
i speak very politely ,well i try to read you...with PATIENCE... but you may know there is not question for this subject. All users want a tool like that since ever.There are people that coming by reading ur title and waiting for u... and keeping reading..do u stil interest? ect.Sorry if i offended you with my ''type''. I hope u ll do a good job of what u will upload in future , and i say that coz at past i ve saw tests unconsistant.
The M1rakuru said: i speak very politely ,well i try to read you...with PATIENCE... but you may know there is not question for this subject. All users want a tool like that since ever.There are people that coming by reading ur title and waiting for u... and keeping reading..do u stil interest? ect.Sorry if i offended you with my ''type''. I hope u ll do a good job of what u will upload in future , and i say that coz at past i ve saw tests unconsistant. Expand You probably don't understand.
Let me write it down in points so that you and others like you can understand it better. - I don't feel and have no obligation to anyone to hand over the slightest bit of my work. I do it because I want to. - I didn't tell anyone that they have to follow me. I have my opinions, whether they're wrong or right. - I didn't tell anyone to expect anything from me IMMEDIATELY. You can be the one to do everything for them. - And finally this is the last time I'm responding to you and this kind of post.
The M1rakuru said: i speak very politely ,well i try to read you...with PATIENCE... but you may know there is not question for this subject. All users want a tool like that since ever.There are people that coming by reading ur title and waiting for u... and keeping reading..do u stil interest? ect.Sorry if i offended you with my ''type''. I hope u ll do a good job of what u will upload in future , and i say that coz at past i ve saw tests unconsistant. Expand
I do share my test league with my patreons(is just the game-save, since data_file is something i am not gonna share with anyone.) Soon gonna make a pre-test that i will share to anyone, so people can present that to me, in order to get their tactic tested on my test league.
I couldn't careless about any vacation-simm to be honest. You can reach crazy results there with 30 rate tactics.
Maybe this post is a bit "click-bait" but in reality he stated "are you interested to", he just wanted to see how many people were interested to check this kind of material, didn't say DOWNLOAD BEST TEST LEAGUE FM24, it can be 2 months/3/4/5 years.
Just to be more transparent to those who are really interested, I have already processed 120k changes in my database and there are at least 60k more to be done.
Also the reasons why the whole process is generally delayed is because this database is not my main one and I had built it at the end of November and left it with many "bugs". I am now removing a lot of unnecessary changes and formatting it as best as possible so that anyone who wants to can test their tactics. Simply put, it's as if I'm building it all over again from scratch.
Τhe link is in the first post of this thread. I hope you find it helpful and feel free to give me feedback! Thanks once again for your patience. Expand
No, need to thank us it's we are beggars asking for free stuff
dzek said: If you want to get more accurate results then you have to use FMRTE tool to freeze players’ attributes, conditions, morale etc. I will be more transparent and explain it when is out.
Chris said: Works with the official in-game editor from FM? Expand Yes, of course! I've already used it in the save file to make human managers become unsackable. I don't know if it will remain for those who don't have the InGame Editor though.
Chriswin4 said: It meant I was delighted, although I don't actually know how to use it. I assume load the game file, but what are the rest of things for? Expand Tomorrow (if I can) I will write in detail what you need to do to use it properly or at least in the way I'm using it. Just keep in mind to reduce the RNG enough you will need to use FMRTE.
dzek said: Yes, of course! I've already used it in the save file to make human managers become unsackable. I don't know if it will remain for those who don't have the InGame Editor though.
Thank you a lot for your time and your test database. The point you gave us the excel too is awesome btw Expand
dzek said: Yes, of course! I've already used it in the save file to make human managers become unsackable. I don't know if it will remain for those who don't have the InGame Editor though.
Tomorrow (if I can) I will write in detail what you need to do to use it properly or at least in the way I'm using it. Just keep in mind to reduce the RNG enough you will need to use FMRTE. Expand
fmrte to do what ? thank u for ur sharing btw gonna check out tommorow
The M1rakuru said: fmrte to do what ? thank u for ur sharing btw gonna check out tommorow Expand In short, to eliminate as much as possible RNG factor. More about this tomorrow.
Chris said: How close do you think the results will be from fmarena tests? Expand I don't know that. I've made some changes that may have changed the approach to the results a little bit and I think they lean more towards the regular season but you can measure it yourself. With that in mind though, you won't always get the exact same score because of the RNG and the different nature of the test league.
If you are willing to take some time to measure it yourself and write it here then I will look forward to it!
dzek said: I don't know that. I've made some changes that may have changed the approach to the results a little bit and I think they lean more towards the regular season but you can measure it yourself. With that in mind though, you won't always get the exact same score because of the RNG and the different nature of the test league.
If you are willing to take some time to measure it yourself and write it here then I will look forward to it! Expand
I've already tested 'Jordan Roam v2' tactic 4'5k matches and it had 65p. Let's compare with fmarena 1200 games. This one had 62 at 1500 games
Delicious said: Uhm, but why you made every Test team vs just 1 Bot team?
Like Team D vs only 433 C ...? This is how Arena works as well? Expand No. FM-Arena’s is like a normal season. All controlled teams play all AI teams.
The reason i did it like this was because of some differences on AI managers’ attributes and also to see if a tactic struggle against a particular formation. Im planning already some updates but i will wait some time before.
Chris said: I've already tested 'Jordan Roam v2' tactic 4'5k matches and it had 65p. Let's compare with fmarena 1200 games. This one had 62 at 1500 games Expand Lets see with the newer FM-Arena testing league also.
dzek said: No. FM-Arena’s is like a normal season. All controlled teams play all AI teams.
The reason i did it like this was because of some differences on AI managers’ attributes and also to see if a tactic struggle against a particular formation. Im planning already some updates but i will wait some time before. Expand
Maybe is even smarter to keep like that, btw it doesn't seem faster then old model. I guess doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Will check it later more accurately
Gianaa9 said: How can you have a so rapid test run? It will be so useful e.e
and on overall i tested more then 800 tactics at the moment, 500+ on 4k games.
As i said there are many ways to make a test faster and i am using the old model, i didn't yet finished my web site did some craps around, lost even 100+ tactics in the process
Now i am trying to understand how to make discord api interacting with the Site, so i won't even upload the tactics over my test machine.
Here for example is easier because the forum is doing that part. But i am not really interested yet to build a forum. Prefer to have my community on discord.
I made the threshold for "PERFECT/BRILLIANT/POTATO" material. So we know already they gonna be super bad.
I mean there is a way to make this schedule with "by creating cups", but i didn't yet understand how to make it into a league (didn't really checked it yet), but if people won't share their knowdledge i do pretty understand why.
Chriswin4 said: Definitely interested, would it create scores we can compare to fm arena tests?
Briefly, perhaps. We should not forget the RNG factor but only time will prove it if it comes close to the results of FM-Arena
Thanks for your interest!
dzek said: Briefly, perhaps. We should not forget the RNG factor but only time will prove it if it comes close to the results of FM-Arena
Thanks for your interest!
My pleasure mate, I love stuff like this, anything I can do to help?
Chriswin4 said: My pleasure mate, I love stuff like this, anything I can do to help?
Patience
dzek said: First of all, learn to speak politely.
As I have said above but you probably didn't even bother to read, the test league is still not quite ready. When I feel it's ready and I WANT it, I'll give it away publicly or to those who have shown interest here. We have a life outside of here you know. If you can't wait then you can create your own and I'm sure no one will stop you from doing it. If on the other hand you can't create your own and want something ready then please be patient!
Thank you so much for your interest!
Edit: Just so you know I've spent almost 1-2 months perfecting it and I wasn't going to upload it. I made the decision to upload it and all I ask is patience. Appreciate a little of the work others do for you and learn not to demand once you get it for free.
i speak very politely ,well i try to read you...with PATIENCE... but you may know there is not question for this subject. All users want a tool like that since ever.There are people that coming by reading ur title and waiting for u... and keeping reading..do u stil interest? ect.Sorry if i offended you with my ''type''. I hope u ll do a good job of what u will upload in future , and i say that coz at past i ve saw tests unconsistant.
The M1rakuru said: i speak very politely ,well i try to read you...with PATIENCE... but you may know there is not question for this subject. All users want a tool like that since ever.There are people that coming by reading ur title and waiting for u... and keeping reading..do u stil interest? ect.Sorry if i offended you with my ''type''. I hope u ll do a good job of what u will upload in future , and i say that coz at past i ve saw tests unconsistant.
You probably don't understand.
Let me write it down in points so that you and others like you can understand it better.
- I don't feel and have no obligation to anyone to hand over the slightest bit of my work. I do it because I want to.
- I didn't tell anyone that they have to follow me. I have my opinions, whether they're wrong or right.
- I didn't tell anyone to expect anything from me IMMEDIATELY. You can be the one to do everything for them.
- And finally this is the last time I'm responding to you and this kind of post.
Thank you once again for your concern! Good luck!
The M1rakuru said: i speak very politely ,well i try to read you...with PATIENCE... but you may know there is not question for this subject. All users want a tool like that since ever.There are people that coming by reading ur title and waiting for u... and keeping reading..do u stil interest? ect.Sorry if i offended you with my ''type''. I hope u ll do a good job of what u will upload in future , and i say that coz at past i ve saw tests unconsistant.
I do share my test league with my patreons(is just the game-save, since data_file is something i am not gonna share with anyone.) Soon gonna make a pre-test that i will share to anyone, so people can present that to me, in order to get their tactic tested on my test league.
I couldn't careless about any vacation-simm to be honest. You can reach crazy results there with 30 rate tactics.
Maybe this post is a bit "click-bait" but in reality he stated "are you interested to", he just wanted to see how many people were interested to check this kind of material, didn't say DOWNLOAD BEST TEST LEAGUE FM24, it can be 2 months/3/4/5 years.
Just to be more transparent to those who are really interested, I have already processed 120k changes in my database and there are at least 60k more to be done.
Also the reasons why the whole process is generally delayed is because this database is not my main one and I had built it at the end of November and left it with many "bugs". I am now removing a lot of unnecessary changes and formatting it as best as possible so that anyone who wants to can test their tactics. Simply put, it's as if I'm building it all over again from scratch.
Thanks for your understanding and patience.
👀
My testing league is out!!
Τhe link is in the first post of this thread. I hope you find it helpful and feel free to give me feedback!
Thanks once again for your patience.
HUZZAH
Chriswin4 said: HUZZAH
Which means? 🤣🤣
dzek said: Which means? 🤣🤣
Delighted I think
dzek said: My testing league is out!!
Τhe link is in the first post of this thread. I hope you find it helpful and feel free to give me feedback!
Thanks once again for your patience.
No, need to thank us it's we are beggars asking for free stuff
dzek said: If you want to get more accurate results then you have to use FMRTE tool to freeze players’ attributes, conditions, morale etc. I will be more transparent and explain it when is out.
Thanks for your interest!
Works with the official in-game editor from FM?
It meant I was delighted, although I don't actually know how to use it. I assume load the game file, but what are the rest of things for?
Chris said: Works with the official in-game editor from FM?
Yes, of course! I've already used it in the save file to make human managers become unsackable. I don't know if it will remain for those who don't have the InGame Editor though.
Chriswin4 said: It meant I was delighted, although I don't actually know how to use it. I assume load the game file, but what are the rest of things for?
Tomorrow (if I can) I will write in detail what you need to do to use it properly or at least in the way I'm using it. Just keep in mind to reduce the RNG enough you will need to use FMRTE.
dzek said: Yes, of course! I've already used it in the save file to make human managers become unsackable. I don't know if it will remain for those who don't have the InGame Editor though.
Thank you a lot for your time and your test database. The point you gave us the excel too is awesome btw
Chris said: Thank you a lot for your time and your test database. The point you gave us the excel too is awesome btw
It was a little gift
dzek said: Yes, of course! I've already used it in the save file to make human managers become unsackable. I don't know if it will remain for those who don't have the InGame Editor though.
gonna check out tommorow
Tomorrow (if I can) I will write in detail what you need to do to use it properly or at least in the way I'm using it. Just keep in mind to reduce the RNG enough you will need to use FMRTE.
fmrte to do what ? thank u for ur sharing btw
That's okay, I've got fmrte sorted.
The M1rakuru said: fmrte to do what ? thank u for ur sharing btw
gonna check out tommorow
In short, to eliminate as much as possible RNG factor. More about this tomorrow.
How close do you think the results will be from fmarena tests?
Chris said: How close do you think the results will be from fmarena tests?
I don't know that. I've made some changes that may have changed the approach to the results a little bit and I think they lean more towards the regular season but you can measure it yourself. With that in mind though, you won't always get the exact same score because of the RNG and the different nature of the test league.
If you are willing to take some time to measure it yourself and write it here then I will look forward to it!
dzek said: I don't know that. I've made some changes that may have changed the approach to the results a little bit and I think they lean more towards the regular season but you can measure it yourself. With that in mind though, you won't always get the exact same score because of the RNG and the different nature of the test league.
If you are willing to take some time to measure it yourself and write it here then I will look forward to it!
I've already tested 'Jordan Roam v2' tactic 4'5k matches and it had 65p. Let's compare with fmarena 1200 games. This one had 62 at 1500 games
Uhm, but why you made every Test team vs just 1 Bot team?
Like Team D vs only 433 C ...? This is how Arena works as well?
Thank you for your effort Dzek
Delicious said: Uhm, but why you made every Test team vs just 1 Bot team?
Like Team D vs only 433 C ...? This is how Arena works as well?
No. FM-Arena’s is like a normal season. All controlled teams play all AI teams.
The reason i did it like this was because of some differences on AI managers’ attributes and also to see if a tactic struggle against a particular formation. Im planning already some updates but i will wait some time before.
Chris said: I've already tested 'Jordan Roam v2' tactic 4'5k matches and it had 65p. Let's compare with fmarena 1200 games. This one had 62 at 1500 games
Lets see with the newer FM-Arena testing league also.
dzek said: No. FM-Arena’s is like a normal season. All controlled teams play all AI teams.
The reason i did it like this was because of some differences on AI managers’ attributes and also to see if a tactic struggle against a particular formation. Im planning already some updates but i will wait some time before.
Maybe is even smarter to keep like that, btw it doesn't seem faster then old model. I guess doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Will check it later more accurately