max 737 said: Unbelievable tactic, at new year's halfway through the season I've had only one loss so far in all competitions. My both primary and secondary GK have been injured throughout as both Raya and Kepa were injured so had to play with a under 18's GK Expand
You will find most tactics works with Arsenal, its one of the best teams in the game. I have tried this with Barrow down at league two, its average.
Gerrard said: HUB allows other players to get forward. If you use overlap you have HUB and increase FB mentality. SW is IP invite crosses narrows FBs Expand
Thanks for the quicky respond, learning a lot fo your different tactics.
May I ask if you could expands on:
"SW is IP invite crosses narrows FBs"
Could you expand this a little bit I couldnt quite get.
mongusplyr said: The tactic is good but my ball possession rate is low, does anyone know why? Expand
Hello.
The tactic seems to be relying on interception of passes and then counter, most of the time you are not in procession against a good team. 29% to 35% is very common for my 10+ seasons using this. I have tried reducing the Tempo so my players have more time on the ball, or reduce the pressing against high pressing teams so my players are in position to intercept, but I can't really tell much of a difference. The only thing I feel makes a difference is to change from Balance to Caution, this seems to make a difference in reducing the chance of them losing the ball, and you would have a higher procession.
Your attack is very fast and you either make it or not make it a goal, or a corner, so you don't have a lot of time on the ball and passing it around the tactic push everyone to their own goal line and take a chance.
Most of the time they are all really long passes, two passes you are in front of the opposition's goal, it seems okay not having a whole lot of procession, or I am doing something wrong.
Another thing I also have changed is taken off "Get Stuck In", this is to reduce the chance to give away set pieces.
This tacic is great but the AI counter you after a season or so by stacking people right infront of the goal, very often their goalkeeper would safe 9 shots, and sometimes like 23 shots from you, I guess they react to the stats on where you usually attack. I am on PS5 so things might be different.
Attributes wise I would say you need acceleration, pace, agility, off the ball, anticipation, strength and technique. So off the ball will compliment roam from position and strength will compliment hold up ball Expand
Hello,
Yea I've got the players matching to your suggestions.
EDIT: Do you have the mark DL and DR on the Inside Forwards or do you take that off?
CBP87 said: My advice would be to use problem solving if it works for you. This tactic is very good and so is problem solving, what I would suggest is having a look at the movement attributes of your inside forwards, they may not have the attributes to roam from position effectively Expand
Hi there,
May I ask what would you command for the IF's attributes?
I have used Kulusevski, Pino, Writz and Yammal in my runs.
Hi everyone, may I ask how did everyone get on with this tactic, I wonder if anyone would have some experience to share at all?
As far as I understand from the comments here, there are only minor tactical difference between this tactic and Problem Solving:
CBP87 said: Roam from position removed from PF and added to IF Expand
So I have made the changes and ran this tactic 3 times, each time lasted 2 to 3 seasons.
I lost a lot of more games comparing to Problem Solving.
I am a console player, I always play Spurs and buy almost the same players each run, and I will restart once I won the Champ League, it's usually the 2nd season.
With Problem Solving, I would usually lose no more than 4 games a season, but with this improved tactic, I have lost about 4 times that.
Is the free roaming on the IF's all there is to change?
infxamus said: Are the players getting injured in game or during training? If in game: Around minute 65-70 of a match you should look at their fitness energy level, if it’s reached poor (the dark orange) or below, you should substitute them off
If the players are getting injured in training, you could either change the schedule you are using or change the intensity, You can try changing the intensity for the excellent condition (dark green) and the good condition (light green) to normal intensity and keep the rest the same. Or you can put all training intensity except the dark green to ‘No Pitch Work or Gym Training’ and keep the dark green on normal
Also check the scouting report on the players, in the negatives, see if they’re injury prone, that might affect it too Expand
Hi mate thank you for your respond.
Yes I do keep them fresh during the match, it is rare I let them run down to red.
I also trained almost all of my players to have 16 stamina. Speed and Acc are also 16+ beside some midfielders and young players.
The training took a while to adjust, but all the intensity on training are also well balanced, I now rarely get hit by red injury from training, they get a nick here and there.
I also rarely run a game into it's 4th year, I usually just restart the same thing again, so I didn't have these problem with recurring injury, are they curable?
Hi all, I been using this tactic and have a lot of success with this, it is also very enjoyable watching the games.
However I am on a save just entering into my fourth season, my FULL Backs all have recurring injury on the hamstring, one even have the keen ligament problem, no surprise there as this tactic is very taxing on their roles.
Although not so much of a question about tactic, may I ask if these injuries can be recovered or am I better off selling them?
I ask if I should sell them off because I read on the internet that I need to rest them from training and only play them half the match, but it's been a month and there has no zero change or improvement.
I would love to have some advice on this if anyone could help me would be much appericiated.
PS: I have 5 wing backs, I rote them from each match almost religiously, I only brought the 5th one because of injuries.
Thank you for the tactic! I am on PS5, 3rd season with Spurs, using this tactics I have managed to only lost one game, at home againest Man U.
For the first two seasons previous, I was using a tactic very simular to this one, one by the creator, @CBP87, I managed to lose 4 games in the first two seasons with that tactic in total, my squad was weaker then.
The biggest difference for me was the VOL in this tactic, this role was very helpful, I used Tchoameni, he scores over 10 goals and assisted several, retrieving the ball all the time.
Really enjoyed these two tactics I have used, thank you!
EDIT: I usually use Maddision as my left Inside Forward, I forgot to switch him in when taking the screenshot to show my A and B teams.
You will find most tactics works with Arsenal, its one of the best teams in the game. I have tried this with Barrow down at league two, its average.
Thanks for the quicky respond, learning a lot fo your different tactics.
May I ask if you could expands on:
"SW is IP invite crosses narrows FBs"
Could you expand this a little bit I couldnt quite get.
Thanks so much.
May I ask what does "Hold Up Ball" do for the Inside Forwards do please?
As for the Full Backs, when does, "Stay Wider" apply? With or without the ball? Or both?
Thanks!
Hello.
The tactic seems to be relying on interception of passes and then counter, most of the time you are not in procession against a good team. 29% to 35% is very common for my 10+ seasons using this. I have tried reducing the Tempo so my players have more time on the ball, or reduce the pressing against high pressing teams so my players are in position to intercept, but I can't really tell much of a difference. The only thing I feel makes a difference is to change from Balance to Caution, this seems to make a difference in reducing the chance of them losing the ball, and you would have a higher procession.
Your attack is very fast and you either make it or not make it a goal, or a corner, so you don't have a lot of time on the ball and passing it around the tactic push everyone to their own goal line and take a chance.
Most of the time they are all really long passes, two passes you are in front of the opposition's goal, it seems okay not having a whole lot of procession, or I am doing something wrong.
Another thing I also have changed is taken off "Get Stuck In", this is to reduce the chance to give away set pieces.
This tacic is great but the AI counter you after a season or so by stacking people right infront of the goal, very often their goalkeeper would safe 9 shots, and sometimes like 23 shots from you, I guess they react to the stats on where you usually attack. I am on PS5 so things might be different.
Left footer on the right, right on the left
Attributes wise I would say you need acceleration, pace, agility, off the ball, anticipation, strength and technique. So off the ball will compliment roam from position and strength will compliment hold up ball
Hello,
Yea I've got the players matching to your suggestions.
EDIT: Do you have the mark DL and DR on the Inside Forwards or do you take that off?
Thanks.
Hi there,
May I ask what would you command for the IF's attributes?
I have used Kulusevski, Pino, Writz and Yammal in my runs.
As far as I understand from the comments here, there are only minor tactical difference between this tactic and Problem Solving:
CBP87 said: Roam from position removed from PF and added to IF
So I have made the changes and ran this tactic 3 times, each time lasted 2 to 3 seasons.
I lost a lot of more games comparing to Problem Solving.
I am a console player, I always play Spurs and buy almost the same players each run, and I will restart once I won the Champ League, it's usually the 2nd season.
With Problem Solving, I would usually lose no more than 4 games a season, but with this improved tactic, I have lost about 4 times that.
Is the free roaming on the IF's all there is to change?
Please advice.
If in game: Around minute 65-70 of a match you should look at their fitness energy level, if it’s reached poor (the dark orange) or below, you should substitute them off
If the players are getting injured in training, you could either change the schedule you are using or change the intensity,
You can try changing the intensity for the excellent condition (dark green) and the good condition (light green) to normal intensity and keep the rest the same.
Or you can put all training intensity except the dark green to ‘No Pitch Work or Gym Training’ and keep the dark green on normal
Also check the scouting report on the players, in the negatives, see if they’re injury prone, that might affect it too
Hi mate thank you for your respond.
Yes I do keep them fresh during the match, it is rare I let them run down to red.
I also trained almost all of my players to have 16 stamina. Speed and Acc are also 16+ beside some midfielders and young players.
The training took a while to adjust, but all the intensity on training are also well balanced, I now rarely get hit by red injury from training, they get a nick here and there.
I also rarely run a game into it's 4th year, I usually just restart the same thing again, so I didn't have these problem with recurring injury, are they curable?
However I am on a save just entering into my fourth season, my FULL Backs all have recurring injury on the hamstring, one even have the keen ligament problem, no surprise there as this tactic is very taxing on their roles.
Although not so much of a question about tactic, may I ask if these injuries can be recovered or am I better off selling them?
I ask if I should sell them off because I read on the internet that I need to rest them from training and only play them half the match, but it's been a month and there has no zero change or improvement.
I would love to have some advice on this if anyone could help me would be much appericiated.
PS: I have 5 wing backs, I rote them from each match almost religiously, I only brought the 5th one because of injuries.
For the first two seasons previous, I was using a tactic very simular to this one, one by the creator, @CBP87, I managed to lose 4 games in the first two seasons with that tactic in total, my squad was weaker then.
The biggest difference for me was the VOL in this tactic, this role was very helpful, I used Tchoameni, he scores over 10 goals and assisted several, retrieving the ball all the time.
Really enjoyed these two tactics I have used, thank you!
EDIT: I usually use Maddision as my left Inside Forward, I forgot to switch him in when taking the screenshot to show my A and B teams.