I have an online save with multiple people but most of them just copied the tactics here and are using them. It was supposed to be a chill game without using outside help, but they're completely overperforming, so with a bit of search I figured they were using the best tactics available here. I always get battered and while I'm trying to subtly overperform my board demands, they're playing semi finals in the champions league against Real Madrid/City, dominating games with teams that are supposed to barely qualify for europe in the dutch league.

I was wondering if there are specific tactics that counter these two formations? I'm playing the most basic 4-3-3, our players are all around the same level and I always get smashed like 25 shots to 3. Even though these are the best tactics I'm assuming there has to be a way to counter them and be able to beat them, but I can't quite figure out how to. Any help would be greatly appreciated