Glassy said: My advice for forwards is to go for forwards that are 6'1 and above. Being good in the air is so overpowered for forwards in FM24. Pace, acceleration, height, work rate. Expand
i read somewhere, that the height doesnt even play any significant role, but heading as an attribute
Gianaa9 said: Hi, dont'worry ahah, i just applied CF(S) + IF(A) from A Smile's tactic to previous versions of 424 Classic, with FBs, TakeMoreRisks on AF, etc... By the way i'm just trying to find out the best possible tactic, and by now 424 looks most promising way, so tweaking small PI/TIs is the only thing i can think to discover something better, i decided to invest my two daily uploads to explore this path, and it's normal that with the 9600 games accuracy some tactics show same results, but how can we now it before testing them? Expand
no, absolutely right. You have to test it. There should be a system, that those get tested but then not listed if providing no difference. But maybe it makes no sense at all , because where to draw the line who was the creator.
No offense to the creator, but to me, this is no new tactic. Especially not the new no1 Listing. If it provided any better results it would work for me. But one thing changed to no1 with no effect at all shouldn´t even be listed in my honest opinion. @FM Arena
Chriswin4 said: Is that Mac?? I’m not sure, check the genie scout website for Mac compatibility, but in terms of my file, I’ll reupload it today. Expand
ah ok, then it won´t work as far as i am concerend. thx
First of all, thx a lot for this great tactic. Having a lot of fun with it. Especially the set pieces you uploaded are showing amazing results for me. I was wondering, do you prefer for the IF left foot left or right foot left?
Might be a dumb question, but I am unsure. If i have a save game from the start and update to the newest version, does the save game also update or is it stuck with the version when i started the game initially? thx in advance
I was wondering, is there any way that my young and mostly high earning (30k+) talents can play in the b or c team? I have a salary cap on b team around 150k. Also I figured, sometimes it´s not possible for my a players to play in c team... why is that? I don´t understand the unavailable bullshit, How do I have to register, so not half of B+C players show "una"? Thx in advance
hmm. sounds weird indeed. I figured a lot of other bugs this season I haven´t had in the last 6 versions. For instance:
- Every season with real madrid at the beginning of a new season it automatically switches back to not controlling B+C and youth team, and u even have to restart the whole game to see the buttons (staff section) to reset.
- Potential Abilitiy and current ability on national team jump up and down when u watch the squad it has 3 stars and when u click the player it might have 5 stars. Could be, because the experts from national team correlate with them of the club team.
- I dont see the unfollow section anymore at all. IF i click unfollow on a certain player, it wont do anything
- heavy bugs on half time speech. sometimes i have to restart because i dont have any button to continue at all, nor any text.
pixar said: from the rest submenu within the training menu. Actually it is visible in the 2nd image Expand
sorry. wrong plan hahaha
Edit: actually it was the right one! Didn´t see, sorry. How do u set the team bonding if it´s 2 games per week? It often vanishes. should i make a 2 week version manually or do u leave it out too, in a 2 week games week because of fatigue?
ZaZ said: Here is what I recommend. I didn't run experiments this year, but I also didn't see any difference compared to last year. Expand
Interesting. You do always do instant results on your tests, right? I am on a longterm safe. Constantly do 100+ GD/season and ofc win everything. I play on extended 2D, used the training schedule of this guy copying AJAX youth system + senior squad plans. Now i swapped to yours and I get like 40-2 shots on target and can hardly win by 1 goal :O! How can we explain this? Squad is loaded and haven´t bought anyone - match familiarity 100%
thanks for this tactic! I switched to it from Brazilian Box recently. Playing 2d extended highlights.
What I noticed.
Pretty stiff when it comes to flexibility / react to 0-1 or leading 2-1 and avoiding receiving last 15 mins. Attacking mentality feels off compared to balanced, which is weird.
The team took quite some time to get used to it. I mean the familiarity was full but only after nearly one season in 2D it started to look appealing while attacking and recently I get many 6-0 / 7-1 even against Top Teams in Semi Final CL for instance. First season I won but mostly by a smaller margin.
Compared to Brazilian box it is way less spectacular. Fewer extended scenes but they are mostly a goal once shown.
Compared to Brazilian Box I find it more difficult to find suitable players, or at least it´s safe to say that DM and CM will mostly avg at 7.0-7.2 on a top team by the end of the season. Also IF right side is less effective than IF left and the left one would also be the strongest player in the game most of the time.
My Game:
4th Season with Real Madrid in the Year 2034 Balance 1.001 Billion € Champion of all cups / leagues B team Champion of Division B Yearly Transfer balance 400M+ I develop young players to the age of 25 (5 + 3 year Contracts)and then sell them for fortunes just before they want their 200k+ weekly contracts Salaries 3.8m including B+C+Youth team (all benchmarks in their leagues) where I buy talents around 5-10m each season. Constantly rotating players and none receives "Star Player" or "Regular Starter" status. Chemistry always excellent, including lots of individual talk in training.
-> obviously I am an economics guy haha! Highly curious if it is still like in FM2023, that at some point over 1.8 Billion the balance reduces or gets taken away (President news - took off money of balance)
Conclusion 8/10 overall:
Highly rewarding regarding results, but less entertaining when you play 2D or 3D.
Thanks a lot for this tactic and congrats to the crown <3
call me sick, but since beta i am playing with brazilian box only !Still flying. This seems more stable than the Brazilian Box tweak regarding receiving goals 🚀! Thx for the work.
I play FM since 2016. I am always enjoying the new version and live financially on the rather sunny side of life. What i don´t understand is, that with such a strong community, they still didn´t fix basic bugs (Training schedule, all weeks take one week and u have to switch back and forth and redo it for instance). Some user experiences also could have changed in seconds. Like having team talks to multiple players who did well in training.
The new set piece section is an absolute horror to me. Again, way too complicated to set your players to the positions and assistance wouldn´t do anything logical at all.
Positive to me (mac version) is the improved performance somehow. I am still using the same Macbook pro i played 2023 with and I felt a much better performance in the beta at least.
All in all a 7/10 for me. I am extremely looking forward to the next one, which is ought to be revolutionary. There we will see how much they really listened to the community, since right now it´s more or less milking the old cow which is understandble since there is no competition to FM series.
love the first one and gonna love this one even more. Already same familiarity, yay! Arminia Bielefeld from 3rd league (0 losses) to second (2 losses) to first (2nd after 10 games with 21 pnts) straight! Thanks a lot. Highly entertaining to watch in 2d/extended highlights, too ! 10/10
cant see a single picture u uploaded and the set pieces wont work for me at all. always short and playing back to the taker, then offside. Defense on the other hand seems to receive a lot. Don´t know, might be me, but I don´t see what i set wrong :/
ZaZ said: For contracts, I get the best results when I do something like this:
1. Remove all clauses and bonuses (and exclude from negotiation), and add a clause of 5% Sell On Fee Percentage. 2. Set Loyalty Bonus and Agent Fee to zero. 3. Lower Wage to around 80% of their request. 4. Suggest terms. 5. Remove all new clauses and bonuses (and exclude from negotiation). 6. Set Loyalty Bonus and Agent Fee to zero again. 7. Lower Wage to the middle ground between the previous offer and this new one (for example, if previous offer was 250k, and new offer is 300k, offer 275k). 8. Repeat from 4 until they accept.
In some specific cases, you might need to add one extra tick if they repeat the same request.
In my experience, that's the most effective way to minimize their demands and save a good amount of money.
P.S.: This doesn't work when they have a clause of "Wage after X matches". In that case, you usually have to keep the clause and also reduce just like the normal wage. Expand
Hey ZaZ, first of all, thanks again for your dedication to our beloved game! Now, is this still working with the newest patch? I somehow wont be able to get the zero "Loyalty Bonus and Agent Fee" through. They won´t accept. However they also don´t get pissed immediately about erasing all bonusses, so its a lil plus for me. But they keep wanting AF anf LB. Thanks in advance.
i read somewhere, that the height doesnt even play any significant role, but heading as an attribute
no, absolutely right. You have to test it. There should be a system, that those get tested but then not listed if providing no difference. But maybe it makes no sense at all
Mac compatibility, but in terms of my file, I’ll reupload it today.
ah ok, then it won´t work as far as i am concerend. thx
First of all, thx a lot for this great tactic. Having a lot of fun with it. Especially the set pieces you uploaded are showing amazing results for me. I was wondering, do you prefer for the IF left foot left or right foot left?
I was wondering, is there any way that my young and mostly high earning (30k+) talents can play in the b or c team? I have a salary cap on b team around 150k. Also I figured, sometimes it´s not possible for my a players to play in c team... why is that? I don´t understand the unavailable bullshit, How do I have to register, so not half of B+C players show "una"? Thx in advance
- Every season with real madrid at the beginning of a new season it automatically switches back to not controlling B+C and youth team, and u even have to restart the whole game to see the buttons (staff section) to reset.
- Potential Abilitiy and current ability on national team jump up and down when u watch the squad it has 3 stars and when u click the player it might have 5 stars. Could be, because the experts from national team correlate with them of the club team.
- I dont see the unfollow section anymore at all. IF i click unfollow on a certain player, it wont do anything
- heavy bugs on half time speech. sometimes i have to restart because i dont have any button to continue at all, nor any text.
but I am on Mac version 💀
sorry. wrong plan hahaha
Edit: actually it was the right one! Didn´t see, sorry. How do u set the team bonding if it´s 2 games per week? It often vanishes. should i make a 2 week version manually or do u leave it out too, in a 2 week games week because of fatigue?
Interesting. You do always do instant results on your tests, right? I am on a longterm safe. Constantly do 100+ GD/season and ofc win everything. I play on extended 2D, used the training schedule of this guy copying AJAX youth system + senior squad plans. Now i swapped to yours and I get like 40-2 shots on target and can hardly win by 1 goal :O! How can we explain this? Squad is loaded and haven´t bought anyone - match familiarity 100%
What I noticed.
Pretty stiff when it comes to flexibility / react to 0-1 or leading 2-1 and avoiding receiving last 15 mins. Attacking mentality feels off compared to balanced, which is weird.
The team took quite some time to get used to it. I mean the familiarity was full but only after nearly one season in 2D it started to look appealing while attacking and recently I get many 6-0 / 7-1 even against Top Teams in Semi Final CL for instance. First season I won but mostly by a smaller margin.
Compared to Brazilian box it is way less spectacular. Fewer extended scenes but they are mostly a goal once shown.
Compared to Brazilian Box I find it more difficult to find suitable players, or at least it´s safe to say that DM and CM will mostly avg at 7.0-7.2 on a top team by the end of the season. Also IF right side is less effective than IF left and the left one would also be the strongest player in the game most of the time.
My Game:
4th Season with Real Madrid in the Year 2034
Balance 1.001 Billion €
Champion of all cups / leagues
B team Champion of Division B
Yearly Transfer balance 400M+
I develop young players to the age of 25 (5 + 3 year Contracts)and then sell them for fortunes just before they want their 200k+ weekly contracts
Salaries 3.8m including B+C+Youth team (all benchmarks in their leagues) where I buy talents around 5-10m each season.
Constantly rotating players and none receives "Star Player" or "Regular Starter" status.
Chemistry always excellent, including lots of individual talk in training.
-> obviously I am an economics guy haha! Highly curious if it is still like in FM2023, that at some point over 1.8 Billion the balance reduces or gets taken away (President news - took off money of balance)
Conclusion 8/10 overall:
Highly rewarding regarding results, but less entertaining when you play 2D or 3D.
Thanks a lot for this tactic and congrats to the crown <3
The new set piece section is an absolute horror to me. Again, way too complicated to set your players to the positions and assistance wouldn´t do anything logical at all.
Positive to me (mac version) is the improved performance somehow. I am still using the same Macbook pro i played 2023 with and I felt a much better performance in the beta at least.
All in all a 7/10 for me. I am extremely looking forward to the next one, which is ought to be revolutionary. There we will see how much they really listened to the community, since right now it´s more or less milking the old cow which is understandble since there is no competition to FM series.
1. Remove all clauses and bonuses (and exclude from negotiation), and add a clause of 5% Sell On Fee Percentage.
2. Set Loyalty Bonus and Agent Fee to zero.
3. Lower Wage to around 80% of their request.
4. Suggest terms.
5. Remove all new clauses and bonuses (and exclude from negotiation).
6. Set Loyalty Bonus and Agent Fee to zero again.
7. Lower Wage to the middle ground between the previous offer and this new one (for example, if previous offer was 250k, and new offer is 300k, offer 275k).
8. Repeat from 4 until they accept.
In some specific cases, you might need to add one extra tick if they repeat the same request.
In my experience, that's the most effective way to minimize their demands and save a good amount of money.
P.S.: This doesn't work when they have a clause of "Wage after X matches". In that case, you usually have to keep the clause and also reduce just like the normal wage.
Hey ZaZ, first of all, thanks again for your dedication to our beloved game! Now, is this still working with the newest patch? I somehow wont be able to get the zero "Loyalty Bonus and Agent Fee" through. They won´t accept. However they also don´t get pissed immediately about erasing all bonusses, so its a lil plus for me. But they keep wanting AF anf LB. Thanks in advance.