I've raised criticisms of substance and he reciprocated with a response that I felt clarified the issue. Why do you lot want so badly to feel involved but yet provide nothing. You attempt to dismiss me when you aren't even the person I needed clarity from.
MeanOnSunday said: It would be best for everyone else if you drop the issue. Expand
I sure would love to mate but I got some strange people that want a reply from me.
MeanOnSunday said: I’m sure you were very productive given the topic of this forum. Expand
If you were interested in the topic you would have added something of value to it. Nothing of value was added when you demanded something of me that already happened.
MeanOnSunday said: The name is fine. If you want to believe a media fiction that’s also fine. It would be best for everyone else if you drop the issue. Expand
If the name is "fine", then asking the user to justify his intention behind the name is fine. Obviously. He helped me understand his position, I point out where I disagree, there are points where we do agree. I'm not the first person to bring up an issue with the name, I surely won't be the last person. I don't think you speak for everyone else, try to be more productive next time you join a conversation.
I'll try to respond in sequence, and sorry for the wall of nothing, I was overthinking what kind of message would resonate and just ended up copping out, I apologize for that.
Of course, it's your experience and your interpretation of why your works and contributions seemed to get drowned out. I don't think its strictly because of a benign username or the manner you present that information that gives you any authority or respect on these subjects. I think anyone that scrolls these forums for 5 minutes will realize you do add immense value to this community and maybe the shift you experienced was a culture shift in how forums operate here, but also people recognizing your hard work and what you told people was leading to better outcomes in how they tested and played. This cuts against my point that the username matters, but I just want to be honest.
1) I do think the quality of content here is very solid, its understandable for even the guy who plays this game a few hours a week, and that's where I agree with your point of if this was more of a formal site it wouldn't thrive. It has its place, and its a great place for more uses than just asking questions that 90% of people here know the answer to.
2) I don't think I'll be the last one who asks about your username and I still stand by the idea you should abandon it, simply because it doesn't represent truth in the way we can both access it.
I appreciate the examples you give and its not my intention to remove politics from places I deem they don't belong, there's a harsh debate that people can have about if claims or statements of fact that are unpopular should be platformed, regardless of harm. My conflict is that this community is a haven for exactly what you said, unfortunate truths of how the game we want to love so much is filled with flaws and cannot be enjoyed the way you used to once that is figured out. Here's the conflict, we ran tests to find out what was true about this game. We understand this game is flawed as shit, pace abusing and strikerless tactics are how you win, and it sucks and most of us have stomached that. We found out something that sucked at expense of truth, so isn't truth the most important thing? That's why when I see your username in a place that values truth above comfort, they are values going in literally opposite directions. The history of this claim that George Floyd overdosed was so hate mongering racists would have a stronger reason to go against the BLM movement. Have your opinions on how that movement panned out and the actual motives behind it (I will probably agree with you), but you cannot tell me with all available evidence, your username leads us closer to the truth, than to a comfort statement. I understand the concept of your username, there are truth statements people need to investigate, no matter how badly it makes me or anyone observing it feel. At the end though, the truth should overcome that comfort. That's why if someone asks me "hey bro how do I get better at FM", I don't tell them to to run a formation that fits your players, or to train weak foots and create balanced players in training. I would expect the same with how you represent yourself, if your username represents a fundamental mistruth, that is for comfort.
GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: I'm glad someone noticed, as I know my posts in this thread were particularly painful to try and skim read. I think I need to redo a summary of all this at some point.
I can add a piece of extra info that I know now. It seems to me that the 'running start' morale impact of pre-season friendly wins have a substantial impact on the chance of winning the competitive season. In other words, it seems best to schedule friendlies against the weakest teams possible, and have enough of them to get your morale up to perfect ideally (balanced against fitness considerations). I suppose it's best to only do home games (win chance boost+pitch control), or otherwise at least pick teams that have stadiums with perfect pitches to minimize injuries. I think two other implications here is not to worry about overconfidence from winning the pre-season friendlies, and fill up any mid-season gaps with a friendly against a weak team. Expand
TLDR for my comment above
The issue is not just that the username is provocative. It is that it makes the community look less serious, less evidence-driven, and more tolerant of political bait. Keeping the name creates friction for everyone else, while changing it costs almost nothing and preserves the person’s actual FM contributions.
Just change the name bro, with all the great work you do in the FM community, why do you have to continue keeping a name that is so dumb.
Firstly, it reduces your credibility because the claim has been proven false , so it cuts against the "fact finding" factor that all brought us here to this site. (1)
Secondly, its politically charged nonsense that the most divisive people online say, it'd be like me rocking a "Hitler was cool" name and expecting everyone to just ignore that and enjoy my FM discoveries and data.
Sources proving his cause of death was by police restraint and neck compression leading to cardiopulmonary arrest.
If you want I can have a debate about this topic in messages here, or on discord. It is your personal choice to keep the name if you please, it will be my personal choice to send you this message until you give good reason to keep the name or the moderators ban me. Please be a human.
I've raised criticisms of substance and he reciprocated with a response that I felt clarified the issue. Why do you lot want so badly to feel involved but yet provide nothing. You attempt to dismiss me when you aren't even the person I needed clarity from.
MeanOnSunday said: It would be best for everyone else if you drop the issue.
I sure would love to mate but I got some strange people that want a reply from me.
If you were interested in the topic you would have added something of value to it. Nothing of value was added when you demanded something of me that already happened.
If the name is "fine", then asking the user to justify his intention behind the name is fine. Obviously. He helped me understand his position, I point out where I disagree, there are points where we do agree. I'm not the first person to bring up an issue with the name, I surely won't be the last person. I don't think you speak for everyone else, try to be more productive next time you join a conversation.
Of course, it's your experience and your interpretation of why your works and contributions seemed to get drowned out. I don't think its strictly because of a benign username or the manner you present that information that gives you any authority or respect on these subjects. I think anyone that scrolls these forums for 5 minutes will realize you do add immense value to this community and maybe the shift you experienced was a culture shift in how forums operate here, but also people recognizing your hard work and what you told people was leading to better outcomes in how they tested and played. This cuts against my point that the username matters, but I just want to be honest.
1) I do think the quality of content here is very solid, its understandable for even the guy who plays this game a few hours a week, and that's where I agree with your point of if this was more of a formal site it wouldn't thrive. It has its place, and its a great place for more uses than just asking questions that 90% of people here know the answer to.
2) I don't think I'll be the last one who asks about your username and I still stand by the idea you should abandon it, simply because it doesn't represent truth in the way we can both access it.
I appreciate the examples you give and its not my intention to remove politics from places I deem they don't belong, there's a harsh debate that people can have about if claims or statements of fact that are unpopular should be platformed, regardless of harm. My conflict is that this community is a haven for exactly what you said, unfortunate truths of how the game we want to love so much is filled with flaws and cannot be enjoyed the way you used to once that is figured out. Here's the conflict, we ran tests to find out what was true about this game. We understand this game is flawed as shit, pace abusing and strikerless tactics are how you win, and it sucks and most of us have stomached that. We found out something that sucked at expense of truth, so isn't truth the most important thing? That's why when I see your username in a place that values truth above comfort, they are values going in literally opposite directions. The history of this claim that George Floyd overdosed was so hate mongering racists would have a stronger reason to go against the BLM movement. Have your opinions on how that movement panned out and the actual motives behind it (I will probably agree with you), but you cannot tell me with all available evidence, your username leads us closer to the truth, than to a comfort statement. I understand the concept of your username, there are truth statements people need to investigate, no matter how badly it makes me or anyone observing it feel. At the end though, the truth should overcome that comfort. That's why if someone asks me "hey bro how do I get better at FM", I don't tell them to to run a formation that fits your players, or to train weak foots and create balanced players in training. I would expect the same with how you represent yourself, if your username represents a fundamental mistruth, that is for comfort.
I can add a piece of extra info that I know now. It seems to me that the 'running start' morale impact of pre-season friendly wins have a substantial impact on the chance of winning the competitive season. In other words, it seems best to schedule friendlies against the weakest teams possible, and have enough of them to get your morale up to perfect ideally (balanced against fitness considerations). I suppose it's best to only do home games (win chance boost+pitch control), or otherwise at least pick teams that have stadiums with perfect pitches to minimize injuries. I think two other implications here is not to worry about overconfidence from winning the pre-season friendlies, and fill up any mid-season gaps with a friendly against a weak team.
TLDR for my comment above
The issue is not just that the username is provocative. It is that it makes the community look less serious, less evidence-driven, and more tolerant of political bait. Keeping the name creates friction for everyone else, while changing it costs almost nothing and preserves the person’s actual FM contributions.
Just change the name bro, with all the great work you do in the FM community, why do you have to continue keeping a name that is so dumb.
Firstly, it reduces your credibility because the claim has been proven false , so it cuts against the "fact finding" factor that all brought us here to this site. (1)
Secondly, its politically charged nonsense that the most divisive people online say, it'd be like me rocking a "Hitler was cool" name and expecting everyone to just ignore that and enjoy my FM discoveries and data.
Sources proving his cause of death was by police restraint and neck compression leading to cardiopulmonary arrest.
(1)
https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/01/file_attachments/1464238/2020-3700%20Floyd%2C%20George%20Perry%20Update%206.1.2020.pdf
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/lack-oxygen-police-restraint-killed-floyd-doctor-testifies-chauvin-murder-trial-2021-04-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/arrest-videos-undercut-derek-chauvins-murder-trial-defense-pathologist-tells-2021-04-09/
If you want I can have a debate about this topic in messages here, or on discord. It is your personal choice to keep the name if you please, it will be my personal choice to send you this message until you give good reason to keep the name or the moderators ban me. Please be a human.