Something is really out of wack with Genie Scout. I don't know how many players it affects, but it's just unacceptable to me.
I realized that according to Genie Scout, Osimhen (91.65%) is better than Haaland (89.86%):
It is also the case with Nunez (88.54%) vs. Haaland. I couldn't find any way in Genie Scout to solve it, but looking around I did find that you can see progress rate for players in the free version by clicking 'compare with' on the player screen, which is useless nowadays but something I didn't know before.
The issue appears to be with the general & positional rating. If I click 'show potential', suddenly Haaland goes from 89% to 99%, even though he has very little room to grow. For other players, their potential rating is ~2% less than their current rating. So I think the way it's calculating things is just bugged, at least when using my custom weights.
Unfortunately there is no proper substitute for Genie Scout. I've been considering FMRTE, but the free version doesn't allow you to save weight changes, and only some people will be willing to pay money for FMRTE.
Thankfully 'FM26 Player Scoring System' is a free alternative that can get the job done. Ignore the version in the name, it can do both FM24 & FM26. The main problem with it is that it doesn't load from memory, so it's a bit less convienant (though Genie Scout takes time to load anyway) and it can't use/view hidden attributes (including CA/PA). It does at least give personality & footedness descriptions to go by, but you can't put it in the weightings. Nonetheless I find it viable and actually quite pleasant to use, and you could use it in conjunction with Genie Scout if need be.
Just follow the instructions to load it up, then input these weights into any role ('add roles' green button > 'edit weightings' small button):
acc 78 agg 42 agi 34 ant 50 bal 46 cnt 50 cmp 44 det 52 dri 50 fin 27 fir 7 hea 4 jum 53 lon 10 otb 2 pac 78 pas 4 sta 35 str 30 vis 27 wor 43
Where values are 10 or less, I added them in because they should have an effect, but I found they are non-essential attributes.
Initially pace/acc was 57, but I adjusted this according to observed data, such as these results someone on youtube got from putting the following at Man City:
goals/matches/rating
Haaland 40/38 7.57 Lewandowski 38/38 7.52 Mbappe 35/36 7.30 Messi 26/38 7.26 Ronaldo 23/33 7.19 Kane 28/38 7.12
I also observed other kinds of players. I couldn't get it 100% accurate, and Kane's rating is oddly low there (the goals scored seem more accurate), but overall I'm pleased with the result. Their scores:
Haaland 16.7 (1st) Lewandowski 15.3 (4th) Mbappe 15.3 (6th) Kane 15.0 (9th) Messi 14.5 (17th) Ronaldo 13.3
What was said about players like Doku still appears to be true. Doku is only 13.4.
Some fascinating things can occur at the edges. For instance this is the best player (7.8) at near zero wage/value:
We can see here he was a dud in Div 5, but got picked up by a Premier League team probably because he was the best young freebie option, before being dumped until eventually ending up being a dud even in Div 8.
The highest rated (12.2) ultra-low salary ($50/wk) option was in Chile and got picked up later by Nottm Forest:
Maybe I could adjust the Genie Scout values until the player lists become closely aligned, so that even though the weights will become non-sensical the results will be accurate, we'll see. Expand
i don't have genie scout cause i play on a mac but i'm using fmdatalabs for similar attribute rating with exports -- safe to say anything not listed here gets a 0 weight? also, do you have gk weights somewhere and i missed it?
juliius said: That's why the schedule i use always looks like this: It's lazy as fuck, however it makes sure i get at least 1 superrest per week. Expand
Is this the schedule I can use literally every single week across all of my youth and main teams if I'm not trying to 100% min-max and just want to set it and forget it? Like clearly I want to min-max a bit because I'm here but I don't want to have to worry about travel days or schedule tweaks when I have 2 home vs. 1 home and 1 away game, etc.
for fm24 still -- what's the best/recommended way to use the template ideals for position to search for players? maybe just use the key/green attributes for each position and knock the ratings down until you get a suitable audience pool?
Something is really out of wack with Genie Scout. I don't know how many players it affects, but it's just unacceptable to me.
I realized that according to Genie Scout, Osimhen (91.65%) is better than Haaland (89.86%):
It is also the case with Nunez (88.54%) vs. Haaland. I couldn't find any way in Genie Scout to solve it, but looking around I did find that you can see progress rate for players in the free version by clicking 'compare with' on the player screen, which is useless nowadays but something I didn't know before.
The issue appears to be with the general & positional rating. If I click 'show potential', suddenly Haaland goes from 89% to 99%, even though he has very little room to grow. For other players, their potential rating is ~2% less than their current rating. So I think the way it's calculating things is just bugged, at least when using my custom weights.
Unfortunately there is no proper substitute for Genie Scout. I've been considering FMRTE, but the free version doesn't allow you to save weight changes, and only some people will be willing to pay money for FMRTE.
Thankfully 'FM26 Player Scoring System' is a free alternative that can get the job done. Ignore the version in the name, it can do both FM24 & FM26. The main problem with it is that it doesn't load from memory, so it's a bit less convienant (though Genie Scout takes time to load anyway) and it can't use/view hidden attributes (including CA/PA). It does at least give personality & footedness descriptions to go by, but you can't put it in the weightings. Nonetheless I find it viable and actually quite pleasant to use, and you could use it in conjunction with Genie Scout if need be.
Just follow the instructions to load it up, then input these weights into any role ('add roles' green button > 'edit weightings' small button):
acc 78
agg 42
agi 34
ant 50
bal 46
cnt 50
cmp 44
det 52
dri 50
fin 27
fir 7
hea 4
jum 53
lon 10
otb 2
pac 78
pas 4
sta 35
str 30
vis 27
wor 43
Where values are 10 or less, I added them in because they should have an effect, but I found they are non-essential attributes.
Initially pace/acc was 57, but I adjusted this according to observed data, such as these results someone on youtube got from putting the following at Man City:
goals/matches/rating
Haaland 40/38 7.57
Lewandowski 38/38 7.52
Mbappe 35/36 7.30
Messi 26/38 7.26
Ronaldo 23/33 7.19
Kane 28/38 7.12
I also observed other kinds of players. I couldn't get it 100% accurate, and Kane's rating is oddly low there (the goals scored seem more accurate), but overall I'm pleased with the result. Their scores:
Haaland 16.7 (1st)
Lewandowski 15.3 (4th)
Mbappe 15.3 (6th)
Kane 15.0 (9th)
Messi 14.5 (17th)
Ronaldo 13.3
What was said about players like Doku still appears to be true. Doku is only 13.4.
Some fascinating things can occur at the edges. For instance this is the best player (7.8) at near zero wage/value:
We can see here he was a dud in Div 5, but got picked up by a Premier League team probably because he was the best young freebie option, before being dumped until eventually ending up being a dud even in Div 8.
The highest rated (12.2) ultra-low salary ($50/wk) option was in Chile and got picked up later by Nottm Forest:
Maybe I could adjust the Genie Scout values until the player lists become closely aligned, so that even though the weights will become non-sensical the results will be accurate, we'll see.
i don't have genie scout cause i play on a mac but i'm using fmdatalabs for similar attribute rating with exports -- safe to say anything not listed here gets a 0 weight? also, do you have gk weights somewhere and i missed it?
It's lazy as fuck, however it makes sure i get at least 1 superrest per week.
Is this the schedule I can use literally every single week across all of my youth and main teams if I'm not trying to 100% min-max and just want to set it and forget it? Like clearly I want to min-max a bit because I'm here but I don't want to have to worry about travel days or schedule tweaks when I have 2 home vs. 1 home and 1 away game, etc.