babemocni1988 said: Interesting,in my opinion there is no need for any changes 😉 Keep up brilliant job 💪 Expand Agree. I am just trying little bit different traps. A new version may come if a significant change occurs. But as I said before, I'm happy to keep it that way. But also i am open to small ideas and touches. But one thing is certain, there will be absolutely no change in philosophy.
Keshk said: Will try this .. thanks. that was gonna be helpful if the creator added another tactic to resolve this problem. Expand Dıd you make rotation for stay fresh? Players shouldn't be "red" at the end.
BeRe said: thank you very much for responding now the last favour i want if you can is to show me players PI in every position.u can pm me if you dont want to ruin your thread Expand
BeRe said: can anybody post TIs because i wanna try this tactic on fm 20 please?or pm me Expand Here. You can look from this.
Metal said: Tested this out myself and achieved better results than my own tactic which got a higher rating which shows rating on here can be deceiving because on the pitch this tactic is so dominating moreso than any other tactic
I won everything with ease and went entire season unbeaten in all comps and also got 137 goals in the league which shows this consistently gets big results across the board.
Well done Stan Seymour and well done to egraam for providing us with the great waves base which I believe is much better than zaz and pheonix Expand Thank you metal for your fair evaluations. It's nice to see that there are so many people who think same with me.
Egraam did a very clever and sensible job. It is a great pleasure and honor for me, to develop his work.
Metal said: Newcastle will be smashing in 137 goals irl very soon with their new owners Expand Hahahahah you're right. I just showed them the way to do this. I hope they get me for technical team too, lol.
babemocni1988 said: This game is so simple to dominate when you have a tactic like this and few amazing cheep wonderkinds to steal at the beggining.(papetti,ahmedhodzic,almada,livakovic...)By selling your wingers(in my opinion better to play wingbacks on MR ML position)having more stability in defence and its easier to buy good wingback then to find all round winger!For DM just find solid DLP not classic Anchor man. Find decent SS speed of the ball,the same for AM,CM all round players(do not buy slow players)litlle bit flair more then SS. You need to have backups because you play all the time at highest tempo so LOAN more players that you can and thats it.Plug ,play and enjoy For example if you have world class players in your team and they are not so fast my advice is to sell them as I sell(brozovic,vidal,eriksen,lautaro) First atributes you need to watch when you managing sub top team is Acceleration,agility and pace,then tehnical one,and stamina! Expand %100 Agree.
babemocni1988 said: I agree 100% I was playing with Zaz and Phoenix for a more then one season with the same team but I never had this kind of sensation and dominating in this way.This tactic is pure Gold.Recomanded to anyone! Expand Thank you so much for your wonderful words. These words made me so happy that it had the same effect on me as I learned that I became a judge tonight. By the way, yes I just learned tonight that I passed last exam for being judge. Hahaha, thanks for the good synergy.
Edit: Also, babemocni can u upload your players attributes for every role. I think that would be very helpful and informative for other guys.
FMAdept said: So in the FM Arena test, the back three are tall but only have 13 pace. Maybe it is the reason that the tactic was leaky and scored bad in the test? Expand Good point. By the way +6.00 ain't bad on this website. Also, test results say something, but not everything. I can honestly say it's better than many higher rated tactics. Those who use this tactic also agree with what I say. I respect all tacticians, of course, but it's clear that there is a big difference between trying to get a high score for a tactic and creating a truly dominant tactic. These are two different things.
BeRe said: @Stan Seymour wonderfull results buddy i wonder if you could upload PIs because still playing FM20 and wanna try it out.also do u use search filters?i know that you wrote about what attributes needed for positions,but i mean of example u cant find a player with 13-14 to all of them.so do u want specific atts with the highest value?e.g 14-15? Expand The last time I used a filter was in fm 2016. It's already hard to find a player with all the required features, it's tolerable that if he has most of the wanted features and some features are weak, I rely more on observer reports. For example, it is a great advantage that the player's stability is written in positive features. Or a defender stating that he is an expert in airballs or that he is fast.
The attributes that I'm overly concerned about: the defensive wings' speed, acceleration and agility are +16. Off the ball can be 14-15. Crossing 13-14 enough. Pass also 13-14 for dw. But also for cm or anchor man passing should be minimum 15-16. Stoppers' speed acceleration should be 14-15. Don't worry about the heading, just pick a real tall one. He will collect air balls.
By the way, there is no need to be too strict. What you have to do is simple, get players as fast as you can. The second thing you will look at is how it relates to the ball. It's okay if he doesn't suck. Must love to passing. Of the ball should be good. Especially SS, AMC, CM should be able to play very well off the ball. It varies from team to team, from tournament to tournament. For some, even 12 is enough. For some, 14 is not enough. You will experience this. I carried Guinea Bissau from 100th place to 35th in the world ranking. And now the goal is to participate in the world cup for the first time. Do you think every attribute fits in my players? The club's money determines how compatible the players will be. Get the fastest and the smartest players you can. Trust your observers. Don't get too involved.
babemocni1988 said: Season 2 starting.Transfers done.Now i will sit, plug, and enjoy playing with this insane team I was able to make Expand Btw, a little info: if a player gets a red card, don't worry, don't change tactic, all you have to do is remove the one on the right of the two players playing in the center of the midfield. So if cm(right) gets a red card, you don't need to do anything. But if an amc gets a red card, you should put the cm(right) man on the forward.
So, with this event, we understand that the person who gains numerical superiority is cm(right). When we get a red card, the match becomes 11v11 for us. Because under normal conditions, we play with almost one more person.
babemocni1988 said: Season 2 starting.Transfers done.Now i will sit, plug, and enjoy playing with this insane team I was able to make Expand Haaland should be drooling right now. Like a wild dog
babemocni1988 said: Playing against Real M. and Chelsea was like playing friendly match With 3 CD so young and unexperienced(Bastoni,Papetti,Ahmedhodzic) This tactic with correct players is unbeatable in my opinion,because of very attacking approach you will aways be able to score one goal more than opponent(and with 3 at back you are more solid in defense if they are fast enough) Like in CL final against Liverpool i created so much chances and I won 3:2 in extra time,even I conceded 2 goals.. Expand That's exactly what I was thinking. But also, what I'm thinking about is not to score more than the opponent's goals, but to be able to win the match if the opponent scores, despite everything. It's always good to have a hope. And with this defensive setup it is already very difficult to conceded goal as we are creating a modern catenaccio. In fact, it became such a modern catenaccio that it almost resembled Helenio Herrera's forgotten offensive catenaccio. And this is the tragicomic part. It's gotten so modern that we're back to the primordial.
babemocni1988 said: Inter Milano first season won all!! played last 25 matches with this brilliant attacking football tactic UNDEFITED 25 matches,plug and play Expand Wonderful stuff! Also, there are real remarkably important results here. (Like R. Madrid and Chelsea)
CBP87 said: Tested with Liverpool, no FMRTE was used. Team selection and training left to AM.
Only defeat in the league was to Villa and as you can see from the above screenshot, I believed we got FM'd
Great result overall though, well done Expand By the way, didn't this tactic score the same number of goals(139) as the Mongoose ​​tactic but conceded less than Mongoose?
Keep up brilliant job 💪
Agree. I am just trying little bit different traps. A new version may come if a significant change occurs. But as I said before, I'm happy to keep it that way. But also i am open to small ideas and touches. But one thing is certain, there will be absolutely no change in philosophy.
Stay tuned
Ahahahahahahahahahha
that was gonna be helpful if the creator added another tactic to resolve this problem.
Dıd you make rotation for stay fresh? Players shouldn't be "red" at the end.
BeRe said: can anybody post TIs because i wanna try this tactic on fm 20 please?or pm me
Here. You can look from this.
I won everything with ease and went entire season unbeaten in all comps and also got 137 goals in the league which shows this consistently gets big results across the board.
Well done Stan Seymour and well done to egraam for providing us with the great waves base which I believe is much better than zaz and pheonix
Thank you metal for your fair evaluations. It's nice to see that there are so many people who think same with me.
Egraam did a very clever and sensible job. It is a great pleasure and honor for me, to develop his work.
Poor Juventus
You rock!!
Hahahahah you're right. I just showed them the way to do this. I hope they get me for technical team too, lol.
Find decent SS speed of the ball,the same for AM,CM all round players(do not buy slow players)litlle bit flair more then SS.
You need to have backups because you play all the time at highest tempo so LOAN more players that you can and thats it.Plug ,play and enjoy
For example if you have world class players in your team and they are not so fast my advice is to sell them as I sell(brozovic,vidal,eriksen,lautaro)
First atributes you need to watch when you managing sub top team is Acceleration,agility and pace,then tehnical one,and stamina!
%100 Agree.
Thank you so much for your wonderful words. These words made me so happy that it had the same effect on me as I learned that I became a judge tonight. By the way, yes I just learned tonight that I passed last exam for being judge. Hahaha, thanks for the good synergy.
Edit: Also, babemocni can u upload your players attributes for every role. I think that would be very helpful and informative for other guys.
Good point. By the way +6.00 ain't bad on this website. Also, test results say something, but not everything. I can honestly say it's better than many higher rated tactics. Those who use this tactic also agree with what I say. I respect all tacticians, of course, but it's clear that there is a big difference between trying to get a high score for a tactic and creating a truly dominant tactic. These are two different things.
The last time I used a filter was in fm 2016. It's already hard to find a player with all the required features, it's tolerable that if he has most of the wanted features and some features are weak, I rely more on observer reports. For example, it is a great advantage that the player's stability is written in positive features. Or a defender stating that he is an expert in airballs or that he is fast.
The attributes that I'm overly concerned about: the defensive wings' speed, acceleration and agility are +16. Off the ball can be 14-15. Crossing 13-14 enough. Pass also 13-14 for dw. But also for cm or anchor man passing should be minimum 15-16. Stoppers' speed acceleration should be 14-15. Don't worry about the heading, just pick a real tall one. He will collect air balls.
By the way, there is no need to be too strict. What you have to do is simple, get players as fast as you can. The second thing you will look at is how it relates to the ball. It's okay if he doesn't suck. Must love to passing. Of the ball should be good. Especially SS, AMC, CM should be able to play very well off the ball. It varies from team to team, from tournament to tournament. For some, even 12 is enough. For some, 14 is not enough. You will experience this. I carried Guinea Bissau from 100th place to 35th in the world ranking. And now the goal is to participate in the world cup for the first time. Do you think every attribute fits in my players?
Btw, a little info: if a player gets a red card, don't worry, don't change tactic, all you have to do is remove the one on the right of the two players playing in the center of the midfield. So if cm(right) gets a red card, you don't need to do anything. But if an amc gets a red card, you should put the cm(right) man on the forward.
So, with this event, we understand that the person who gains numerical superiority is cm(right). When we get a red card, the match becomes 11v11 for us. Because under normal conditions, we play with almost one more person.
Haaland should be drooling right now. Like a wild dog
With 3 CD so young and unexperienced(Bastoni,Papetti,Ahmedhodzic)
This tactic with correct players is unbeatable in my opinion,because of very attacking approach you will aways be able to score one goal more than opponent(and with 3 at back you are more solid in defense if they are fast enough)
Like in CL final against Liverpool i created so much chances and I won 3:2 in extra time,even I conceded 2 goals..
That's exactly what I was thinking. But also, what I'm thinking about is not to score more than the opponent's goals, but to be able to win the match if the opponent scores, despite everything. It's always good to have a hope. And with this defensive setup it is already very difficult to conceded goal as we are creating a modern catenaccio. In fact, it became such a modern catenaccio that it almost resembled Helenio Herrera's forgotten offensive catenaccio. And this is the tragicomic part. It's gotten so modern that we're back to the primordial.
played last 25 matches with this brilliant attacking football tactic
UNDEFITED 25 matches,plug and play
Wonderful stuff! Also, there are real remarkably important results here. (Like R. Madrid and Chelsea)
It's a sweet coincidence that both scored exactly the same goal.
Only defeat in the league was to Villa and as you can see from the above screenshot, I believed we got FM'd
Great result overall though, well done
By the way, didn't this tactic score the same number of goals(139) as the Mongoose ​​tactic but conceded less than Mongoose?
Only defeat in the league was to Villa and as you can see from the above screenshot, I believed we got FM'd
Great result overall though, well done
If FM'd wasn't there, we'd probably be as undefeated as Rocky Marciano