For this formation idea, I was trying to play with the IFB, my idea was to have the IFB on one side for control and have the WB on the other side for forward pressure, my takeaway is to use a side on one side of the IFB for the tackle, and then the midfielder on the same side can be set up for aggressive duty (I used VOL), and on the other side to use defensive duty to protect the WB's backside, and for the frontcourt duty on the WB's side, he's supposed to be biased towards the center of the field for attacking, and this is conducive to providing the WB with space
Mark said: This tactic owes a lot to the RedGen tactic by @CSTG KANE. I thought I would try and transform it into a 343 asymmetrical tactic. Unfortunately I forgot to change the name so it still says 424.
I moved one of the ST back to AM Att, the right winger back to MR IW Sup and the left back up to WB WB Att. To cover for the loss of a defender I placed one of the DMs to DM Def in the hope that he would cover when the WB went forward. I changed the other DM to Vol Su to try and get more attacking chances.
I used my normal testing teams. Highlights were Man City going close to winning everything and scoring 117 goals and 103 points. Missed out on CL by going down to PSG in the semi.
Even Bromley scored 132 goals and 111 points in the VNL.
Defensively seemed ok as well but not as good as RedGeneral.
Please let me know your thoughts.
Man City
Bromley
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I'm glad to see that my thoughts have inspired you, that's exactly what I want to do, and it's a great feeling to be inspired, even though I'm now a "prisoner". But I'm still creating new tactics, and posts like yours definitely give me a lot of motivation, thank you and Happy New Year!
Zippo said: Not only 60+ points tactics, pal... you have to fix them all.
Otherwise, it would be unfair to other tacticians who followed the rules. Expand
Well, I'll take my time and fix it up when I have time, then as the saying goes, shoot from the hip, and hopefully you'll correct all the people who have done it
Zippo said: Nope, pal. I'm afraid it won't work that way.
You have to check every of your tested tactic and make sure all of them have proper screenshots. If it's needed you have to run tests again to add proper screenshots.
Only when you can confirm that all your tested tactic and non-tested tactics have proper screenshots we start test your new tactics.
Let me know when you're done.
Cheers. Expand
Ok, so can I just check that I didn't miss any screenshots of my 60+ point tactics, otherwise it's too much of a strain on my CPU
Using FBA is a good way to think about it, FBA is more robust minded, and FBA's default instructions have cross more often, which is a better fit under the current engine
Zippo said: @juwow, thank you for your vigilance and contribution, it's much appreciated.
@A Smile, @dzek, @letsgo9, thank you for your opinions and involvement in this situation, it's much appreciated.
@CSTG KANE, I see only one fair solution to this situation: you have to fix all the threads that have the same screenshots and add correct ones. Until then non of your tactics will be tested. Let me know when you're done.
Cheers. Expand
I've changed the screenshots of the four tactics I recently posted, and I apologize for the trouble
A Smile said: Kane actually has his own tactical post on the PGM forum, many of which he has researched before. However, the rules do need to be strictly adhered to, which is also to respect ARENA's efforts. Expand
Yes, the rules should be respected. please Keep monitoring.
dzek said: @letsgo9 We all follow some rules here. Otherwise everyone would do whatever they wanted and we would generally be like animals in the jungle.
Think of me uploading 30 tactics in 10 minutes without running a test on my own and 5 people also doing that. The rest would wait around 1-2 weeks to test their tactics. It is also not disrespect from us to @CSTG KANE but the opposite. As I have said above in my previous post we could all do this but we don't do it out of respect for the time others waste trying their own tactics. Expand
Good point! Although I tested all my previous tactics, I was too lazy to take screenshots and upload them, thus causing some consequences that were detrimental to the ARENA forums, and I apologize, I won't do that again!
juwow said: I mean... I started my first comment in this post by saying "As much as I love your contirbutions".... Nobody discredits Kanes work, we should all be grateful for all the amazing members we have that put countless of hours to make things happen and for us to enjoy FM a bit more.
It doesnt mean that just because he scores high or submits a lot that he can copy paste or do whatever right? Thats not rly respect if you ask me :P Expand
I think that's exactly why I need to play by the rules, it's an example behavior, I've done it wrong before, thanks for the correction
letsgo9 said: and btw Kane has done more here than most of members lately, he made the tactics result average rise up in 1 week with his ideas, gotta show some respect too Expand
Thanks for the support bro, but on some level this behavior is cheating on my part, and it's not what I want
dzek said: This is an important issue that @juwow has raised and indeed most of us have not noticed it.
We all, because of the rules that FMArena has, run the tests over and over again to upload screenshots. You, however, are trying to save time that the rest of us could be doing too. I hope the moderators will address the issue. @Zippo & @Droid Expand
I've had screenshots of different test environments before and then realized that I could use the same one and have been using it ever since, I apologize and I promise I won't do it again!
juwow said: Of course you can use 38 tactics in one season but that is not the point of the the run is it? If every user here takes time to load a season with 1 tactic and waits for the run to end so we can post it then the same should be applied to every user with no exceptions (even if its a tweak).
This just ensures a even playing field for everyone posting otherwise anyone would post countless variations of ANY tactic in amazing record time and that is not really the goal Expand
Okay, then I promise that I won't do this in the future, and I'll send out my test environment, and the data from each test
juwow said: As much as I love your contirbutions, one part of tactic testing is posting screenshots of the run you did with the tactic because it takes time for everyone to test however if we go to every single post you make you always detail the same screenshots of a Luton run with 81 points and always the same screenshots for player statistics (Adebayo with 32 Goals and Barkley with 13 Goals for example).
Not really sure how the admins havent picked that up just yet but maybe either @Droid or @Zippo could take a closer look at this please?
Otherwise we can all post 30 variations of a tactic in 1 hour with copy paste screenshots of one successful run we did in the past. Expand
In fact, I can play the whole season with 38 tactics XD
I admit to using the same picture to save time, but he did play with multiple tactics
I moved one of the ST back to AM Att, the right winger back to MR IW Sup and the left back up to WB WB Att. To cover for the loss of a defender I placed one of the DMs to DM Def in the hope that he would cover when the WB went forward. I changed the other DM to Vol Su to try and get more attacking chances.
I used my normal testing teams. Highlights were Man City going close to winning everything and scoring 117 goals and 103 points. Missed out on CL by going down to PSG in the semi.
Even Bromley scored 132 goals and 111 points in the VNL.
Defensively seemed ok as well but not as good as RedGeneral.
Please let me know your thoughts.
Man City
Bromley
I'm glad to see that my thoughts have inspired you, that's exactly what I want to do, and it's a great feeling to be inspired, even though I'm now a "prisoner". But I'm still creating new tactics, and posts like yours definitely give me a lot of motivation, thank you and Happy New Year!
Otherwise, it would be unfair to other tacticians who followed the rules.
Let me know when you're done.
I've fixed the duplicate screenshots I've been using recently
@Zippo
Otherwise, it would be unfair to other tacticians who followed the rules.
Well, I'll take my time and fix it up when I have time, then as the saying goes, shoot from the hip, and hopefully you'll correct all the people who have done it
You have to check every of your tested tactic and make sure all of them have proper screenshots. If it's needed you have to run tests again to add proper screenshots.
Only when you can confirm that all your tested tactic and non-tested tactics have proper screenshots we start test your new tactics.
Let me know when you're done.
Cheers.
Ok, so can I just check that I didn't miss any screenshots of my 60+ point tactics, otherwise it's too much of a strain on my CPU
It's actually hard to confirm this, I can only guarantee that from now on, my tactical screenshots won't show the same
Tactical screenshots have been updated
@A Smile, @dzek, @letsgo9, thank you for your opinions and involvement in this situation, it's much appreciated.
@CSTG KANE, I see only one fair solution to this situation: you have to fix all the threads that have the same screenshots and add correct ones. Until then non of your tactics will be tested. Let me know when you're done.
Cheers.
I've changed the screenshots of the four tactics I recently posted, and I apologize for the trouble
Yes, the rules should be respected. please Keep monitoring.
Think of me uploading 30 tactics in 10 minutes without running a test on my own and 5 people also doing that. The rest would wait around 1-2 weeks to test their tactics. It is also not disrespect from us to @CSTG KANE but the opposite. As I have said above in my previous post we could all do this but we don't do it out of respect for the time others waste trying their own tactics.
Good point! Although I tested all my previous tactics, I was too lazy to take screenshots and upload them, thus causing some consequences that were detrimental to the ARENA forums, and I apologize, I won't do that again!
It doesnt mean that just because he scores high or submits a lot that he can copy paste or do whatever right? Thats not rly respect if you ask me :P
I think that's exactly why I need to play by the rules, it's an example behavior, I've done it wrong before, thanks for the correction
Thanks for the support bro, but on some level this behavior is cheating on my part, and it's not what I want
We all, because of the rules that FMArena has, run the tests over and over again to upload screenshots. You, however, are trying to save time that the rest of us could be doing too. I hope the moderators will address the issue. @Zippo & @Droid
I've had screenshots of different test environments before and then realized that I could use the same one and have been using it ever since, I apologize and I promise I won't do it again!
This just ensures a even playing field for everyone posting otherwise anyone would post countless variations of ANY tactic in amazing record time and that is not really the goal
Okay, then I promise that I won't do this in the future, and I'll send out my test environment, and the data from each test
Not really sure how the admins havent picked that up just yet but maybe either @Droid or @Zippo could take a closer look at this please?
Otherwise we can all post 30 variations of a tactic in 1 hour with copy paste screenshots of one successful run we did in the past.
In fact, I can play the whole season with 38 tactics XD
I admit to using the same picture to save time, but he did play with multiple tactics
IFs to IFA
LWBa add "stay wider" Pi
Thank you!
I'm sorry, man. I didn't write about the Pis change. I'll write about it later.
-Pi
dislodge WBs "take more risks"