pixar said: I shared your first question in the last image of my post you quoted. Check it out again
For the second question, I can give examples as follows. These two players have been in my team since they were 18 years old. They are now 22 years old.
keithb said: Forgot to check this today. Have been using my own ratings for squirrel python code and have found it to be excellent. I think it's far superior to using GS with yk but will check it against yours tomorrow Expand @keithb would you share your modified squirrel ratings please ?
Mark said: It sounds to me like your ratings file has been altered some how.
I have manually calculated the ratings using both MDW22 and MDW24 ratings values. The calculation is, each attribute score multiplied by the ratings file weighting for the attribute for the position you are calculating. Then divided by the total attribute weighting for the position. And then divided by 20. You then also need to apply the Weight for that position in the rating file, which is where the balancing across positions occurs.
I have assumed they are both strikers.
For MDW24 I make it Ergin 52.38% to Samed 59.15%.
For MDW22 I make it Ergin 51.48% to Samed 58.09%
The difference between the two sets of ratings is in the balancing, the Weight for the position in the rating file. This is how the FS position relates to other positions which I fixed with the rebalancing. Proportionally within the positions MDW22 and MDW24 are the same but there have been some slight changes across positions. For instance in FM24 Haaland wasn't the top player using MDW22 but now is with MDW24. The changes came by comparing across positions based on a standard player as opposed to the best of each position when I did MDW22.
If you load the ratings file you are interested in and then go into Rating/Edit Player Rating you can see the Weight used for each position.
I hope this helps. Expand
do you have a link for MDW24 @Mark ? i cant find them anywhere
After seeing a test on reddit and a video on youtube and the FM arena tests about different simulations with the "meta attributes" i have created some Player filters that in my oppinion find good rounded players that perform on match day and sometimes they can be really cheap gems
Youth filter included, feedback would be appreciated
So i have been looking at some stats from FM Stag and i tried to create some filters. I must say that i like how the players perform, but i think it would need more testing and refining.
Speed said: There are different stats for each position. You can see them in Settings (click on FMRTE topright)
I don't use them for the same reason I don't use genie or CA/PA in general while playing, but judging from how it's implemented, you can adjust them to be however you like them to be. Expand
@Speed average ratings i would say. check this out
ZaZ said: Yes, exactly that. If you will do three rests per week, then do all in the same day, or it will have no effect. That does not include Travel when you play away from home, so if you have Travel + Rest + Rest after a match, then the Rest sessions will be wasted, recovering almost the same as if you did three sessions of Overall training (but without the attribute growth). There will be a video about that later at EBFM, so soon you will be able to see the data. Expand
amazing find, i think this will tottaly change the training schedules. Do you work with EBFM ?
ZaZ said: About that advice, the Recovery session is doing more harm than good there. In short, Rest only has effect if you have three sessions a day. You can test it and check with in-game editor. Three Rest sessions will recover ~50% more player condition, and 100% more Fatigue, than any number of Recovery sessions, and it does not matter how many Recoveries you put in the same day, the gain of condition and fatigue are about the same. In fact, that happens with any other training session, which means Rest only works if you have three sessions in the same day. With Super Rest, you recover around 30-40% more of each, making Recovery sessions completely pointless.
Also, keep in mind that the effects of Recovery on condition and fatigue are negligible, recovering almost the same as you would recover in Overall sessions (in other words, it is natural recovery, not anything to do with the Session). There is no evidence that it contributes in any way to reduction of injuries, other than helping to keep match sharpness (negligible difference to training sessions other than Rest).
P.S.: I also think some people are putting too much credit on a study from three years ago, considering the engine has changed a lot since then. I am not saying they do not have merit, just that results might be outdated. Expand
correct me please if i understood it wrong, having one session of rest a day is pointless? is better to put 3 schedules a day and then find another day in the week to clump up 3 rest sessions ?
ZaZ said: In short, a day of full rest (three Rest sessions), plus going in holiday with the whole team during that day, recovers more physical condition and fatigue, than just having full rest without holiday (or having holiday without full rest). Apparently, the physical impact of going in holiday stack with the physical impact from training, so you can stack holiday with Rest to get a super recovery. Expand
That’s just crazy 😂 Thanks for sharing, will test this out 👌
By the way, I am testing the schedule below right now. Keep in mind that it requires training with half intensity, else it will lead to a high number of injuries. I also discovered a glitch on training that allows you to "super rest" players (almost 40% more recovery of condition and fatigue than just full rest schedule), but I am still investigating it to understand exactly how it works. Expand
doru228 said: @Han106 i get complains over the atacking unit not getting enough attention. Maybe adjustig that would get the grow in ST ? Expand
@Han106 I have tweaked it for the first team, i get no more complains, if you fancy having a look and please test it to see how close it gets to the other training schedules.
Han106 said: On the left is the EBFM Training Schedule and on the right is my training schedule that I made for myself but in testing actually performed well compared to the EBFM schedule. This is 2 tests each of 4 teams so 8-16 players of sample size of each position. I compare the results below.
This is the 2 test results of MAW. All data is formatted in Alphabetical Position order(So AMC, AML/AMR, DCL/DCR, DR, DMC/DM, DL, GK, ST) because that's the best that FM Genie scout can do.
This is the 2 test results of EBFM.
Taking the Top 2 of each position and Clear winners. The Left side is MAW and Right side is EBFM.
AM(MAW) 66.6/65.9 vs 65.8/65.4 W(MAW) 65.6/64.6 vs 64.6/64.6 CB(MAW) 64/63.7 vs 63.7/63.6 FB(TIE) 63.5/63.4 vs 63.7/63.1 DM(TIE) 62.8/62.8 vs 63.2 vs 62.7 GK(EBFM) 58.1/57.9 vs 58.4/58 ST(TIE) 65.1/65 vs 65.1/64.1
This is the training schedule.
For the test file, matches are on Saturdays. I placed the foundational 11 on the left and the Defending Wides afterwards.
I will test other trainings either suggested, or increase sample size. I'm currently testing RDF Gengenpress Sat and General. I managed to at least catch up to EBFM's schedule. Depending on sample size, maybe his or mine win.
i'm not subscribed to any channels, is a tactic from a forum.
@TommyToxic if you don't have a constructive comment please scroll away from my posts
Video below
i can't say is 97% but still a decent result.
well i have a u18 and a u21 squad. i was wondering if the same training imporves the 15-18 players as much
For the second question, I can give examples as follows.
These two players have been in my team since they were 18 years old. They are now 22 years old.
do you use the same schedule for youth also ?
@keithb
would you share your modified squirrel ratings please ?
I have manually calculated the ratings using both MDW22 and MDW24 ratings values. The calculation is, each attribute score multiplied by the ratings file weighting for the attribute for the position you are calculating. Then divided by the total attribute weighting for the position. And then divided by 20. You then also need to apply the Weight for that position in the rating file, which is where the balancing across positions occurs.
I have assumed they are both strikers.
For MDW24 I make it Ergin 52.38% to Samed 59.15%.
For MDW22 I make it Ergin 51.48% to Samed 58.09%
The difference between the two sets of ratings is in the balancing, the Weight for the position in the rating file. This is how the FS position relates to other positions which I fixed with the rebalancing. Proportionally within the positions MDW22 and MDW24 are the same but there have been some slight changes across positions. For instance in FM24 Haaland wasn't the top player using MDW22 but now is with MDW24. The changes came by comparing across positions based on a standard player as opposed to the best of each position when I did MDW22.
If you load the ratings file you are interested in and then go into Rating/Edit Player Rating you can see the Weight used for each position.
I hope this helps.
do you have a link for MDW24 @Mark ?
i cant find them anywhere
Full season holiday
No Set Piece
Youth filter included, feedback would be appreciated
I must say that i like how the players perform, but i think it would need more testing and refining.
Anyone willing to help with this?
I think there's huge potential here
i have it on my old PC i think
I don't use them for the same reason I don't use genie or CA/PA in general while playing, but judging from how it's implemented, you can adjust them to be however you like them to be.
@Speed average ratings i would say. check this out
i dont know what they prioritised there, can't open them for some reason
amazing find, i think this will tottaly change the training schedules.
Do you work with EBFM ?
Also, keep in mind that the effects of Recovery on condition and fatigue are negligible, recovering almost the same as you would recover in Overall sessions (in other words, it is natural recovery, not anything to do with the Session). There is no evidence that it contributes in any way to reduction of injuries, other than helping to keep match sharpness (negligible difference to training sessions other than Rest).
P.S.: I also think some people are putting too much credit on a study from three years ago, considering the engine has changed a lot since then. I am not saying they do not have merit, just that results might be outdated.
correct me please if i understood it wrong, having one session of rest a day is pointless? is better to put 3 schedules a day and then find another day in the week to clump up 3 rest sessions ?
That’s just crazy 😂
Thanks for sharing, will test this out 👌
By the way, I am testing the schedule below right now. Keep in mind that it requires training with half intensity, else it will lead to a high number of injuries. I also discovered a glitch on training that allows you to "super rest" players (almost 40% more recovery of condition and fatigue than just full rest schedule), but I am still investigating it to understand exactly how it works.
can you elaborate that glitch please?
i get complains over the atacking unit not getting enough attention.
Maybe adjustig that would get the grow in ST ?
@Han106 I have tweaked it for the first team, i get no more complains, if you fancy having a look and please test it to see how close it gets to the other training schedules.
This is the 2 test results of MAW. All data is formatted in Alphabetical Position order(So AMC, AML/AMR, DCL/DCR, DR, DMC/DM, DL, GK, ST) because that's the best that FM Genie scout can do.
This is the 2 test results of EBFM.
Taking the Top 2 of each position and Clear winners. The Left side is MAW and Right side is EBFM.
AM(MAW) 66.6/65.9 vs 65.8/65.4
W(MAW) 65.6/64.6 vs 64.6/64.6
CB(MAW) 64/63.7 vs 63.7/63.6
FB(TIE) 63.5/63.4 vs 63.7/63.1
DM(TIE) 62.8/62.8 vs 63.2 vs 62.7
GK(EBFM) 58.1/57.9 vs 58.4/58
ST(TIE) 65.1/65 vs 65.1/64.1
This is the training schedule.
For the test file, matches are on Saturdays. I placed the foundational 11 on the left and the Defending Wides afterwards.
I will test other trainings either suggested, or increase sample size. I'm currently testing RDF Gengenpress Sat and General. I managed to at least catch up to EBFM's schedule. Depending on sample size, maybe his or mine win.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1m_r3Khn0YCMDi3dogwsYy1OggAuAdzd1?usp=sharing is link where I will put Tested Files.
@Han106
i get complains over the atacking unit not getting enough attention.
Maybe adjustig that would get the grow in ST ?