nijak05
I have been Playing with the raumdeuter on one of the wings and so far the result are promising - the player movement is really fun to watch .. has anyone else tried using the raumdeuter?
Would he score more if you changed the role of the AMR (winger or inverted winger) or Maybe switched the AF to the other side?
Am i the only one where the ss is getting really inconsitent ratings around 6.7 unless he scores? Is it just the match engine where the AMC gets so so ratings?
but only stay wider on one side?
Yes i have been thinking the same.. Maybe i should try it with that setting. Do you have any stats for the inverted winger goal and assist wide?
is there a reason you have the iw staying wider?
@ZaZ
1.The iw (zaz test) version with the pi get further forward seems to work Well for me. I like the way the both cut inside but also cross. Also might get me a few more goals, but not sure

2. I tend to favour  the wb-a more than support though as i feel they overload the box more.

Havnt tried changing the midfield role yet - Maybe the dlp would be good for away games as he doesnt roam as much as the rpm?
This is NOT my tactic, but it really deserves recognition and to be tested. I found it on the Fm-gamers website where its one of the top tested:

https://fm-gamers.com/en/tactic/football-manager/realz-41122-inverted-winger


Its also figuring on the fm-base.co.uk website where its been tested by will1981 with great results:

https://fm-base.co.uk/threads/tactic-testing-database.175319/page-14#post-2561293

If this is not allowed then im sorry, and if the real creator is on this website then i beg forgiveness.


It looks like a tweak of zaz´s tactic, a 41122 but with inverted wingers, 2 AF - but i dont know if it is. Just that it plays well, scores a lot and has been solid for me.

1. I usually start out with this tactic but change to zaz 4.0 if needed.

2. I personally added the force opposition outside and now trying to add the zaz set pieces.

future: Also would like to try it with the cm moved to AMC as in the zaz 4.0 version.

I have only tested if for 15 or so games but just thought it deserved recognition - can it be tested?

ps. al credit goes to the original creator whom i havent been able to find - and if s/he sees this then well done. And if you would like me to delete the post then i will off course do it.
@ZaZ have you tried with inverted wingers now that they changed the way they play in the new patch?
@ZaZ will you be updating the ss version of this tactic for this this patch?
ZaZ said: What do you mean? Check the attributes, fatigue, condition, matches without playing, schedule and so on. You said you usually pick the team yourself, so just keep doing it. Assistant manager isn't reliable and often makes poor decisions. Also, he can't see the "long run", so he won't think about prioritizing one match over the next or resting a player with heavy match load, for example. He also often picks players out of position.

It was more if I could rely on his jca under squad depth to see who should be my first pick etc.. fx ansu fati is my best winger but has been the most inconsistent compared to others with a lower ability .. or if I should trust the player and keep giving them chances to perform.I try to warn them if they have played badly etc.. just trying to learn what you good fm players do:)
ZaZ said: Don't trust him.

Then how do you choose which players to choose ?
Hi guys.
Could you give me some insight into how you use your AM the most effectively.
I usually pick my team myself - but sometimes he suggest changes to some different positions - what’s is this based on and how much should I trust it?
I would guess Is it based on his jpa, the players training during the week etc - but how trustworthy is it ? And do you accept the changes or just disregard them?

Thanks
ZaZ said: I would advise against using players below accomplished in any position. From accomplished to natural there isn't much difference, but below that it can get quite noticeable. Just give him more time to get used to the position.

He is natural on either wing - but I think it’s because his preferred role is different than what the tactic uses, which shouldn’t make a difference as far as I know.
@ZaZ Playing the Aw version - I have ansu fati, musiala and yusuf demir..
Ansu Fati is really inconsistent for me on either wing - any tips? Maybe he just needs to get comfortable with the tactic - but in the match screen is says he has concern because he doesn’t feel
Suited for the position?
@ZaZ for tough away games would it make sense to start out with cautious mentality and then change back to positive at/after HT? or should it always be kept at positive.

And if chasing a goal would it make sense to switch to more attacking mentality or is it better using touchline shouts etc.?
@ZaZ
If changing the wingers to Attack instead of support - would that harm
The tactic much? Maybe at home games/ tipped to win and then keep them on support for neutral/away games
i have tried moving one of the shadow strikers to an extra central midfielder and moved the  defensive midfielder up to cm - let see how it goes. basically a 4-2-1-3.

Or maybe keep rpm as defensive midfielder and move one of the SS to central midfield assymetric?
But does this tactic still work for the new patch?
@ZaZ will you be updating this one for the new patch?