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CBP87 said: Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/12662-god-of-chaos/

Changes-
Removed underlap
Removed dribble more from FB









Is there a big difference between with and without underlaps?
CBP87 said: Thank you, appreciate the feedback

I agree. Had a lot of success 1 season but 2 season opponents are more defensive so not scoring as much as I used to do - this can be a factor of a lot of things.

Do you change anything for hard away games?
4 randomly picked. Im winning so maybe it doesnt matter, but just want to understand the game and the mechanics better :-)
CBP87 said: Yeah, see how you get on with it, I'm not saying it's going to work, but they should start shooting less and only when a good opportunity arises

I know the tactic works and enjoy using it but what will a change of mentality to fx. Balanced do? It we have so many shots but low xG - doesn’t that mean that they are rushing the shots ?
Or maybe the shoot less often will have the same effect.?
On all the front 4? Won’t that change the effectiveness of the tactic?
CBP87 said: I'd say give him time, I've had Osimhen on this game and he is a beast

So many shots, even on target, but just low conversion rate is killing me sometimes 22 shots 12 on target, 2 goals from corners and opponent keeper rating of 7,6 but my attacking players get low ratings because they can’t convert.
This is palmer, osimhen, kvarradonna and yamal 🤣 it’s annoying

Is this a factor of complacency from the players?
CBP87 said: beats offside trap for AF and IF, plays killer passes for AM and cuts inside for IF. I also make sure I had a left footed IF on the right hand side and a right footed IF on the left

Thank you!
I bought Osimhen as my main striker - granted we are only 7 games in but he is having regular 6.3-6.4 ratings and looks like he is missing big chances.
My AMC is Cole palmer, my AML is kvaratshelia and my AMR is Sterling/yamal/nkunku so I feel like it’s not because he isn’t provided .. is he just overrated or am I being impatient.. was hoping for better performances from a 105
Million pound player.

Tips?
CBP87 said: I don't change anything, just let it play out and it will hopefully come good once the players get use to it

Ok I will just keep at it..
any traits I should be aware of for the front line players - “likes to beat man repeatedly etc?” What do you recommend?
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CBP87 said: https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/37780/

I know this is plug and play (as I want it). Absolutely dominated 1st season with Chelsea, but start of second season is not as smooth as first. I bought osimhen and kvaratskhelia to boost my attack but somehow the goals aren’t coming. Still lots of shots though so maybe just unlucky or . maybe AI is more defensive against me now? Should I just let I play out or do you make changes in other seasons?
I have been Playing with the raumdeuter on one of the wings and so far the result are promising - the player movement is really fun to watch .. has anyone else tried using the raumdeuter?
Would he score more if you changed the role of the AMR (winger or inverted winger) or Maybe switched the AF to the other side?
Am i the only one where the ss is getting really inconsitent ratings around 6.7 unless he scores? Is it just the match engine where the AMC gets so so ratings?
but only stay wider on one side?
Yes i have been thinking the same.. Maybe i should try it with that setting. Do you have any stats for the inverted winger goal and assist wide?
is there a reason you have the iw staying wider?
@ZaZ
1.The iw (zaz test) version with the pi get further forward seems to work Well for me. I like the way the both cut inside but also cross. Also might get me a few more goals, but not sure

2. I tend to favour  the wb-a more than support though as i feel they overload the box more.

Havnt tried changing the midfield role yet - Maybe the dlp would be good for away games as he doesnt roam as much as the rpm?
This is NOT my tactic, but it really deserves recognition and to be tested. I found it on the Fm-gamers website where its one of the top tested:

https://fm-gamers.com/en/tactic/football-manager/realz-41122-inverted-winger


Its also figuring on the fm-base.co.uk website where its been tested by will1981 with great results:

https://fm-base.co.uk/threads/tactic-testing-database.175319/page-14#post-2561293

If this is not allowed then im sorry, and if the real creator is on this website then i beg forgiveness.


It looks like a tweak of zaz´s tactic, a 41122 but with inverted wingers, 2 AF - but i dont know if it is. Just that it plays well, scores a lot and has been solid for me.

1. I usually start out with this tactic but change to zaz 4.0 if needed.

2. I personally added the force opposition outside and now trying to add the zaz set pieces.

future: Also would like to try it with the cm moved to AMC as in the zaz 4.0 version.

I have only tested if for 15 or so games but just thought it deserved recognition - can it be tested?

ps. al credit goes to the original creator whom i havent been able to find - and if s/he sees this then well done. And if you would like me to delete the post then i will off course do it.
@ZaZ have you tried with inverted wingers now that they changed the way they play in the new patch?
@ZaZ will you be updating the ss version of this tactic for this this patch?
ZaZ said: What do you mean? Check the attributes, fatigue, condition, matches without playing, schedule and so on. You said you usually pick the team yourself, so just keep doing it. Assistant manager isn't reliable and often makes poor decisions. Also, he can't see the "long run", so he won't think about prioritizing one match over the next or resting a player with heavy match load, for example. He also often picks players out of position.

It was more if I could rely on his jca under squad depth to see who should be my first pick etc.. fx ansu fati is my best winger but has been the most inconsistent compared to others with a lower ability .. or if I should trust the player and keep giving them chances to perform.I try to warn them if they have played badly etc.. just trying to learn what you good fm players do:)