test with No.1 Tactic in this platform, Hans best hits corners. this is so impressive "Maurits Kjærgaard" has so high rating because he is the tallest first 11 outfield player. he score 3-4 goal per match so often despite only 9 Finishing attribute. Mostly 1 goal from foot and 2-3 goals from corner header. My FB also got most assist, I will try using fast tall CB and retrained to CF next!
Orion said: Just to clarify. So at first you used GenieScout default 'rating' and then one from my model? Expand
Yes bro, the one in your model is the only "rating model" that rate Chermiti higher than Konate since all other model value pace acceleration, and finishing but not weight much in jumping reach!
This was in my head for several weeks before this post reveal the answer. I sold my Youssef Chermiti who has 140CA with striker rating 79 and upgrading my Striker to Karim Konate 160CA with 84 striker rating. However, Konate never perform better than chermiti and i keep asking... how come? with new rating in this post, its clear that chermiti rating is 77%TS comparing to konate 73%TS.
1. The results contradicted my initial judgment, In some cases, Technique and Flair will be positive. It is not known which stage setting/instruction produced this effect. in the 11 tactic have been measured, Technique and Flair are negative in more cases ,and positive in few.
2. With fewer sample, the standard deviation of Preset 532 Catenaccio is decrease accordingly to Flair increase, which may be caused by insufficient test samples
3. Based on the average standard deviation of all tactic ,estimate, it is not convergent to speculate on the results of one or two seasons It take about 20-25 seasons , 600-750 matchs each situation to have a Reasonable Confidence Intervals
4. To reduce distractions, Three of the identical tested tactic were randomly replaced with different opponent tactic, The result is the same . Therefore, judging "positive or negative" does not depend on the opponent's formation Expand
Have you test the corelation with player traits? some really good trait like "place shot" and "curl ball" require some minimum stat like technique15+ together with finishing15+. If you run test on single stat like technique or finishing result might not be significant... but if you run a test with forward with "move into chanel","knock ball past opponent", and "place shot", test result might change vastly (I used to have a striker who has all atribute lower than another striker, but his avg rating, goals. and assist is much higher than the striker who have better atribute. And i found out that it is his traits that make him stand out and perform much better).
A trait that fit match tactics would increase player rating significantly? for example, NO.1 tactic now require wings and FB to get furthur forward. players who has traits "get forward whenver possible" gonna perform well in this meta tactics. and in order to get this trait, you might need to sacrifice some CA to non-performing attributes in order to accquire a trait that suit the tactics you use.
I used to play with Problem Solvin V24 but i found two issues that i need to upgrade 1) My youth academy produced lots of Great AMC and MC and I dont know where to put them in 2) I want to reduce injury and yelow+red cards
so
the only two things I change are 1) Tick stay on feet instead of Get Stuck In to reduce injury and cards 2) change one Defensive Midfield(support) to Segundo Volante attack since i find that most good AMC Wing and Mc can be retrained to Volante Attack and perform very well there
I first change this in my Farsley save and it work wonder since my Farsley Celtic is in year 2035. Winning at home by 4-0 5-0 or even 7-0 happened often with ProblemSolvinV24 tactics, but after i tweaked I beat Besiktas in UCL 15-0(Home) and Basel in UCL 12-0(Home)!
I want to know how better it is so I tried this save with ManCity on vacation, let the owner do all transfer and contract (the only thing he did is sell my Kavin De Bruyne and buy nothing). My set piece is Han's
Here is the result Matheus Nunes got 4th Average rating in the team with 17Goals and 12 Assist (if KDB retrained and play in this position instead i belive his ratings will be much higher)
Injury this season is only 60 from expected 72
Summary: this would be a great tactic to play with smaller team at Home.
This season we were top of the table from the very start (i imagine tactical familiarity and a good dressing room atmosphere from the previous success of last season helped this)
There was a point at the start of January where i thought it would all taper off and my team would struggle because of a few injuries and a lack of depth. This wasn't the case though. March was the worst month where players were tired from games coming thick and fast but even then we didn't lose much only picked up a few draws instead.
There were plenty of games where we won by 5 goals or more. Again am very impressed with this tactic and just thought i would show the continued success.
I was predicted to finish 19th. Expand
Nice bro, this tactics with the META set piece can surely send you to at least championship with only pure random players. You just need any two random players that familiar with the position to substitute when one is injured. My Buxton now can compete with any clubs after 6-7 years. If you have fund available, please look to strengthen AMC first since that role always have most impact(both assists and score) In my Buxton save, any FC can be trained to become AMC. Wing can be trained to FB, and DC could be trained to DM. This way of training can save you lots of money until you rich enough to buy anything you want. Training routine is here https://fm-arena.com/thread/9313-untested-meta-attribute-training-schedule-v1/
combining this tactic with Meta corner, my Buxton went up straight from Varanama North to Premiere League!! (I'm on holiday mode until i reach Premiere League) I use chairman to buys and sell all staff and players since I didnt have budget to hire staff.
Hi @ZaZ , have you test on Flair atribute? after playing 8-10 seasons my best striker (according to genieScout with vkvkvk balanced) keep perform worst and worst even when genie scout rating keep increasing. I try to find out why, and i find out that his flair drop from 16 when he arrived to 10 after 8 years at club. i just recognized that if i kept training him as complete forward or advance forward, flair attribute will getting lower and lower. His average rating keep decrease from 7.88 first year to 7.60 at 7th year. I want him to win Ballondor so badly that i try to cheat by adding him as a corner taker to increase assist lol (and it work! he win it and rating become 7.88 since he assist 20+ per season, how ever his league goal keep decreasing TT)
Kaczy said: And mate one more thing. Corners should be done by who? Long throw in by IWB from each site? Individual traning for each position they are playing?Focus on speed? Expand
Just use anyone with highest corner attribute bro, he will assist like 20++ per season if your DCR is higher than 185cm
@ZaZ this is the best feeling so far for FM23, previous plan is difficult to find DW to fit in plan. But Fire2.4 is different! Im very underdog team and expected to finish 20th in the league.
I play Wigan and suppose to finish bottom. My player got so many injuries during pre-season matches so i tick stay on feet and it work so amazing! Much less red and yellow card, injurie less, and win more!
very very strong for Man Utd (just start the save last night) I bought only 1 player Alexis Saelemaekers as 1 more wing is needed The way i always use in pre-season is arrange friendly match every 3 days (play1 rest2) switched between first and second team to gain tactics familiarity as fast as I can. For training i train complete forward for FW attacking midfield atk for AMC inverted winger for AML/R Segundo Volunte ATK for DM Complete Wingback atk for DL/DR Ball playing defender defend for DC I find it give more stats than training with tactics roll
this is so impressive "Maurits Kjærgaard" has so high rating because he is the tallest first 11 outfield player. he score 3-4 goal per match so often despite only 9 Finishing attribute. Mostly 1 goal from foot and 2-3 goals from corner header. My FB also got most assist, I will try using fast tall CB and retrained to CF next!
Yes bro, the one in your model is the only "rating model" that rate Chermiti higher than Konate since all other model value pace acceleration, and finishing but not weight much in jumping reach!
The latest test results , with 20,000+ match tested
1.
The results contradicted my initial judgment,
In some cases, Technique and Flair will be positive.
It is not known which stage setting/instruction produced this effect.
in the 11 tactic have been measured, Technique and Flair are negative in more cases ,and positive in few.
2.
With fewer sample, the standard deviation of Preset 532 Catenaccio is decrease accordingly to Flair increase, which may be caused by insufficient test samples
3.
Based on the average standard deviation of all tactic ,estimate, it is not convergent to speculate on the results of one or two seasons
It take about 20-25 seasons , 600-750 matchs each situation to have a Reasonable Confidence Intervals
4.
To reduce distractions,
Three of the identical tested tactic were randomly replaced with different opponent tactic, The result is the same . Therefore, judging "positive or negative" does not depend on the opponent's formation
Have you test the corelation with player traits? some really good trait like "place shot" and "curl ball" require some minimum stat like technique15+ together with finishing15+. If you run test on single stat like technique or finishing result might not be significant... but if you run a test with forward with "move into chanel","knock ball past opponent", and "place shot", test result might change vastly (I used to have a striker who has all atribute lower than another striker, but his avg rating, goals. and assist is much higher than the striker who have better atribute. And i found out that it is his traits that make him stand out and perform much better).
A trait that fit match tactics would increase player rating significantly? for example, NO.1 tactic now require wings and FB to get furthur forward. players who has traits "get forward whenver possible" gonna perform well in this meta tactics. and in order to get this trait, you might need to sacrifice some CA to non-performing attributes in order to accquire a trait that suit the tactics you use.
1) My youth academy produced lots of Great AMC and MC and I dont know where to put them in
2) I want to reduce injury and yelow+red cards
so
the only two things I change are
1) Tick stay on feet instead of Get Stuck In to reduce injury and cards
2) change one Defensive Midfield(support) to Segundo Volante attack since i find that most good AMC Wing and Mc can be retrained to Volante Attack and perform very well there
I first change this in my Farsley save and it work wonder since my Farsley Celtic is in year 2035. Winning at home by 4-0 5-0 or even 7-0 happened often with ProblemSolvinV24 tactics, but after i tweaked I beat Besiktas in UCL 15-0(Home) and Basel in UCL 12-0(Home)!
I want to know how better it is so I tried this save with ManCity on vacation, let the owner do all transfer and contract (the only thing he did is sell my Kavin De Bruyne and buy nothing). My set piece is Han's
Here is the result
Matheus Nunes got 4th Average rating in the team with 17Goals and 12 Assist (if KDB retrained and play in this position instead i belive his ratings will be much higher)
Injury this season is only 60 from expected 72
Summary: this would be a great tactic to play with smaller team at Home.
This season we were top of the table from the very start (i imagine tactical familiarity and a good dressing room atmosphere from the previous success of last season helped this)
There was a point at the start of January where i thought it would all taper off and my team would struggle because of a few injuries and a lack of depth. This wasn't the case though. March was the worst month where players were tired from games coming thick and fast but even then we didn't lose much only picked up a few draws instead.
There were plenty of games where we won by 5 goals or more. Again am very impressed with this tactic and just thought i would show the continued success.
I was predicted to finish 19th.
Nice bro, this tactics with the META set piece can surely send you to at least championship with only pure random players. You just need any two random players that familiar with the position to substitute when one is injured. My Buxton now can compete with any clubs after 6-7 years. If you have fund available, please look to strengthen AMC first since that role always have most impact(both assists and score)
In my Buxton save, any FC can be trained to become AMC. Wing can be trained to FB, and DC could be trained to DM. This way of training can save you lots of money until you rich enough to buy anything you want.
Training routine is here https://fm-arena.com/thread/9313-untested-meta-attribute-training-schedule-v1/
And setup rest like the photo attached.
Hope you enjoy!
https://fm-arena.com/thread/9033-fm-arena-1-21-set-piece-best-hits/
I use chairman to buys and sell all staff and players since I didnt have budget to hire staff.
Individual traning for each position they are playing?Focus on speed?
Just use anyone with highest corner attribute bro, he will assist like 20++ per season if your DCR is higher than 185cm
I bought only 1 player Alexis Saelemaekers as 1 more wing is needed
The way i always use in pre-season is arrange friendly match every 3 days (play1 rest2) switched between first and second team to gain tactics familiarity as fast as I can.
For training i train
complete forward for FW
attacking midfield atk for AMC
inverted winger for AML/R
Segundo Volunte ATK for DM
Complete Wingback atk for DL/DR
Ball playing defender defend for DC
I find it give more stats than training with tactics roll
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sorry bro, i just suprrise. will not do it again
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There are pictures in the first post, at "Training".
helo mate, i just coppy ypur training, but it only appear for one week. How can i make it permanent or until i switch to pre season program?