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dakiri said: Ok, I'm really pleased with a 6.8! It's also one of the top scoring tactics, so I finally achieved my initial goals in this thread.

I'm still working on a few more tweaks. I've played with switching the DM to a DLP, and adding in less dribbling (I added the "Dribble Less" TI , and got rid of all the "Dribble More" PIs, which was previously on almost every role).

Comparisons with other versions:



The v3 uploaded in this thread still looks like the best tactic for an elite team, since nothing has approached that top Man City result - which is why I haven't uploaded a new version yet. But the other options look very strong in their own way, as good or better than v3. I'll say that the Dribble Less versions I've tested are extremely attractive to watch, with way more short passing and teamwork-based goals. The RPM version was the most fun to watch but the DLP performed slightly better.

I'll keep noodling and see if there's anything I want to upload, but I'm glad to see that you don't need to ONLY use SS and DWs to score a lot. My next trick will be to get similar results without using CM-As in the midfield - seems impossible, though, since they're just so good this patch.


Wouldn't mind u uploading v4 with dms
dakiri said: Looks like I nailed my guess for v2, with a 6.0 score. I also lied, I'm still tinkering. I'm not going to keep uploading because I know there's protocols against just trying to brute force things. However, I changed the DM to a RPM and added in the instructions "slightly shorter passing," "play through middle," and "be more expressive" and got an insane result, a 2.15 p/g and 1.43 gd/g. For reference when I did the same test with zaz blue I got 2.13 and 1.54. Most likely just a lucky small sample but I think it's indicative of the top end potential here.

Wow those are very good numbers, gonna be following this thread very closely for future updates
Egraam said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qM5Gxv2Qk3MkxiaiYWFP70iSxUb7TNr2/edit#gid=1710399827

So far I've only went through some of the top tactics because I've already had them downloaded, I'll try to fill it out more in the next few days. I've only went through each tactic and wrote down the PIs from every position so keep in mind that some tactics simply don't use a certain PI - for example they use neither Take More Risks or Take Fewer Risks, but this was done really quick for now, I'll work on the sheet more later and try to add those instances as well.


I appreciate the effort. Thanks alot bro
ZaZ said: Too much work, I'm out. =D

True, thanks anyways it's very useful
Hopefully someone makes something like this for the player instructions
malte722 said: haha just insane, i tweaked the formation a bit though :D

Wow,what tweak did you make?
Mark said: I was hoping to analyze the top 100 tactics and look at averages rather than best, but have only got through the top 50. You will see in the tactics section I have tested a tactic using formation, roles and mentality that I thought came out best. It has tested very well for me. I used formation rather than position as I think this means more. Split formation into 5 rows, DC DLR then WBLR DM then MLR MC then AMLR AMC then ST.

I haven't got to the instructions yet and it might be a bridge too far

Below are the results:













Seeing how the instruction work also would be incredible good job
What routine did you use for this?