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I've been trying to make 3 defenders at the back work, and this tactic has managed to get some decent results for me. Team instructions and set pieces are from ZaZ Blue (offensive throw ins from Pheonix), but the tactic has no fullbacks or wingbacks, defenders with stopper and cover duties, no offside trap, double playmakers and 3 AMCs so it should provide a bit different playstyle than the current meta tactics. I need to work on the defense because the tactic is a bit leaky but offensively it's pretty good.



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V2 Update, which is a massive improvement in terms of consistency and overall performance:

Deep Lying Playmakers changed to Roaming Playmakers (with Move Into Channels) and moved to DM slot.

This version is much more consistent (the previous version could get 102 points  with City in one test and then 88 in another, this one is a lot more stable), much better defensively while still really good offensively.

1st Lazio, 1st Benfica, 100 points City.

I've updated the main post with the file. Would appreciate a test because like I said, it is a really big improvement.



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Nice results! It just needs some solidity in the defense, which is easier said than done.

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Improving defense will be my main focus now for sure. Not having fullbacks/wingbacks and using just defensive wingers on flanks is the thing hurting the defensive performance the most, but I've tried moving them down to FB/WB and got worse results. Still pretty happy with the results of V2, as there weren't many viable tactics with 3 defenders at the back before, and this one is pretty good.

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3 defenders and 3 strikers. I'm wondering from whom you have taken inspiration for this :blink:

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salzby said: 3 defenders and 3 strikers. I'm wondering from whom you have taken inspiration for this :blink:

Paulo Sousa style :D I've been trying to make a more faithful recreation as well, with high possesion rate, but shorter passing and lower tempo just don't really work in this year's FM.

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Egraam said: Paulo Sousa style :D I've been trying to make a more faithful recreation as well, with high possesion rate, but shorter passing and lower tempo just don't really work in this year's FM.

I tried 343 before, but it was not good at all. Good job making it work.

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Just loaded 3Dom.  Was using Zaz blue with a mid-table team.  Plenty of goals especially from corners resulting from DWs failed byline crosses.  But got crushed by elite Mancity.  Switched to Zaz Copper Very defensive but not much happening up front.  Hoping 3Dom's DWs breathe some life into 3 at the back. 

This thread has been quiet for six weeks.  Have you moved on from 3Dom v2?

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Machismo said: Just loaded 3Dom.  Was using Zaz blue with a mid-table team.  Plenty of goals especially from corners resulting from DWs failed byline crosses.  But got crushed by elite Mancity.  Switched to Zaz Copper Very defensive but not much happening up front.  Hoping 3Dom's DWs breathe some life into 3 at the back. 

This thread has been quiet for six weeks.  Have you moved on from 3Dom v2?


I've been more focused on improving Waves for a while, which I believe to be my best tactic at the moment, that's why there weren't any updates here. Though while testing different tweaks for Waves, I've come up with some ideas which could improve a tactic's defense - which is the main weakness of this tactic. I'll be testing them soon, and will share the updated version of Threedom, if the results are good.

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Threedom V3 is here, and it's quite a big tactical revolution, because I've finally managed to get rid of extreme gegenpressing - much higher LOE is still there, but pressing intesity has been lowered from much more urgent to slightly more urgent (100% to 50%) and counterpress has been removed.

Full list of changes:
- Removed Counterpress
- Pressing Intensity: Much More Urgent -> Slightly More Urgent (2 ticks down)
- Added Tight Marking
- Added Play for set pieces
- Added Hold Position to Wingers

Updated main post with the file.



Real only 18 conceded, Elche was predicted like 19th or 18th so it's still a good overachievement, but they had 3rd goal difference in the league, so perhaps a bit unlucky point result there.

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Egraam said: Threedom V3 is here, and it's quite a big tactical revolution, because I've finally managed to get rid of extreme gegenpressing - much higher LOE is still there, but pressing intesity has been lowered from much more urgent to slightly more urgent (100% to 50%) and counterpress has been removed.

Full list of changes:
- Removed Counterpress
- Pressing Intensity: Much More Urgent -> Slightly More Urgent (2 ticks down)
- Added Tight Marking
- Added Play for set pieces
- Added Hold Position to Wingers

Updated main post with the file.



Real only 18 conceded, Elche was predicted like 19th or 18th so it's still a good overachievement, but they had 3rd goal difference in the league, so perhaps a bit unlucky point result there.



Thia seems like real revolution,have you tested it more?

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babemocni1988 said: Thia seems like real revolution,have you tested it more?

Yes, tried and tested, from my own experience the improvement is even a bit bigger than the fmarena test is showing, because the tactic demands less intensity from the players - with V2 I often found my players, especially wingers, to be already fatigued at half time, here it's not as big of a problem, so it's easier to survive those gameweeks when you are playing every 3 days.

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I play with non-elite teams e.g. mid to lower EPL.  I want either one multi-task tactic or a combo of two or three interchangeable tactics during the match.
1) All must include 3 at the back, + 1 or 2 DMs. + 2 or 3 SSs.
2) Three levels to be Standard tactic + super defensive (e.g. vs elite) + all out late goal attack.
3) ALL three tactics based on 3-at-the-back.
4) And mid or lower EPL teams.

(perhaps changing mentality will be enough)

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Machismo said: I play with non-elite teams e.g. mid to lower EPL.  I want either one multi-task tactic or a combo of two or three interchangeable tactics during the match.
1) All must include 3 at the back, + 1 or 2 DMs. + 2 or 3 SSs.
2) Three levels to be Standard tactic + super defensive (e.g. vs elite) + all out late goal attack.
3) ALL three tactics based on 3-at-the-back.
4) And mid or lower EPL teams.

(perhaps changing mentality will be enough)


You could go for Threedom V3 as the base tactic as it's the best rated 3 at the back tactic on this patch, ZaZ - Copper as the defensive one because it has the best defence on this patch (maybe you could even start with balanced/cautious vs elite teams away, not 100% sure though as I haven't played with that tactic much), and for the 3rd, more attacking slot, use Threedom V2 because it scores a bit more than V3 and maybe even switch to attacking/very attacking, but that could be risky if you are a low table EPL team. Another option, to invest even more in the offense, would be to go for higher/much higher defensive line, depending on how much do you need the goal and are willing to risk.

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Hi, @Egraam ,

Will you produce tactics for FM 22?

Cheers!

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