mess

I'm bit exhausted with 3atb tactic tweaking, so lets get exhaust with 433 (or 451 if someone prefer to count insides as midfielders)

Back to initial tactic for start of FM23, but now with latest approach I tried with 343 tac

It's just sad that my favorite formation is slightly shredded its productivity this year, mainly because of mezzalas' nerf. So gonna try it without them but with BBMs.


Pool results:
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Brentford:
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so, if initial was this


why don't just remove non-working RPM with change to DMsup and give some love to poacher finally


mentality to balanced
+overlaps, pass into space and overlaps
standard d-line +get stuck


should test it with Haaland ofc
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Roaming Mess

Main change is at the tactic's name itself - I just gave roam to almost every position except GK, BPD and DM (in "even more" version DM -> Regista, so he roams too)
It's exact opposite approach from what I use with my "cross" tactics: flanks set to shoot less and cross less + work ball into box TI

Central trio is more on supporting role, without forward runs, so less option as 2nd wave, but more stable
with Liverpool
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with Brentford
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option with 2nd wave aka mezzalas
with Liverpool
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with Brentford
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Hi, @opq.

What the difference between 'roaming mess', 'even more roaming mess' and 'roaming mess mez'?

Can you share any result?

Tnx.

Yes @opq tell us

Milakus said: Hi, @opq.

What the difference between 'roaming mess', 'even more roaming mess' and 'roaming mess mez'?

Can you share any result?

Tnx. Expand

it's above, I'm just f..d up post as couldn't upload screenshots somehow
"even more" is for teh lulz only with swapping DM to Regista
main version is with CMsup, mez - with mezzalas obviously

Delicious said: Yes @opq tell us Expand

opq said: it's above, I'm just f..d up post as couldn't upload screenshots somehow
"even more" is for teh lulz only with swapping DM to Regista
main version is with CMsup, mez - with mezzalas obviously Expand

Ok, got it.

Tnx.

btw, I bet no1 сould guess what team gave Pool those Ls at 2 runs 
hint: it been mentioned at tactics name at arena

opq said: I'm bit exhausted with 3atb tactic tweaking, so lets get exhaust with 433 (or 451 if someone prefer to count insides as midfielders)

Back to initial tactic for start of FM23, but now with latest approach I tried with 343 tac

It's just sad that my favorite formation is slightly shredded its productivity this year, mainly because of mezzalas' nerf. So gonna try it without them but with BBMs.


Pool results:
Spoiler

Brentford:
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Guess it's time to figure out a 4-3-3 tactic

MemorizableUsername said: Guess it's time to figure out a 4-3-3 tactic Expand

it's like all CM roles are underperforming
even CM itself which should add a lot of pressing, with mezzalas still being main choice

MESS

going with underlaps, and less crossing for all flank players + Anchor instead of DM
didn't touch any of width PIs on players

Mess v3 and v4 (v2 gone to trash)
change of width PIs on flanks as lately tested with 424
IF -> IW
underlaps -> overlaps
passing back to shorter

v3
inverted central trio to adapt to present ME
volantes on sup, CM att + move into channels



v4 - think the last try with classic 433 setup until possible ME update
mez -> CM (1st on sup, 2nd on att + move into channels)
Anchor -> DM sup

@opq Hey, test plz mess v4 with 2IF-at, 2CM-at and DM-def

Sane said: @opq Hey, test plz mess v4 with 2IF-at, 2CM-at and DM-def Expand

It won't give much difference. Double CM just sucks at this ME.
For instance you can even check the table of 4231 with double CMs instead of double DM, and how low score they got.
And seems there's really not much difference between IW and IF. I change between them from save to save. They still score and assist a lot
Same goes to WB/CWB and I use them both.

opq said: It won't give much difference. Double CM just sucks at this ME.
For instance you can even check the table of 4231 with double CMs instead of double DM, and how low score they got.
And seems there's really not much difference between IW and IF. I change between them from save to save. They still score and assist a lot
Same goes to WB/CWB and I use them both. Expand

But I still advise you to create such a tactic for the test mix, 2CM-at and DM-def should work. And maybe we'll get a better version of 4-3-3, just try plz)

And mb try standart passing...