Phoenix

by Magician, Dec 21, 2020

Fired this one through a holiday test with 6 teams, still amazing! Results on discord, not that you really need any extra hype! Truly the world's greatest football magician inc. Messi ;)

https://discord.gg/ADYFfSg4KS

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Mr,Magician is this even possible!
first 2 games with Bologna :D
No transfers,you brake this game 100%:thup:

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Hey @Magician do you still use the conditions saving tactic in games? Does it make too much of a difference? I find I still get quite a lot of players in the red heart by the end of a game regardless.

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Keakiwi said: Hey @Magician do you still use the conditions saving tactic in games? Does it make too much of a difference? I find I still get quite a lot of players in the red heart by the end of a game regardless.

When against weaker teams and/or playing at home I usually start with high pressing and high tempo (i.e. one notch left from default setting) to see how things go. If I did not manage to score by half time I will first restore the pressing and then the tempo. If by half time I am having a comfortable lead I will just let the settings remain. I do not think it is possible (nor necessary) to have both pressing and tempo at the maximum throughout the whole game: this will drain the players not only in that particular game but also significantly drain them for the next game and increase injury risks.

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Keakiwi said: Hey @Magician do you still use the conditions saving tactic in games?

Sure, sometimes it can be very handy but it must be used wisely because it's much less effective than the default tactic.

Keakiwi said: Does it make too much of a difference? I find I still get quite a lot of players in the red heart by the end of a game regardless.

If you use it only for 15-20 mins in a match then of course, you won't see a significant difference but still in those 15-20 mins the conditions of your players are burned at a significantly lower rate than with the default tactic.

Also, if your players already were very tired and jaded before a match then they will end up the match having very low conditions despite you were using the conditions saving tactic.

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Magician said: Sure, sometimes it can be very handy but it must be used wisely because it's much less effective than the default tactic.



If you use it only for 15-20 mins in a match then of course, you won't see a significant difference but still in those 15-20 mins the conditions of your players are burned at a significantly lower rate than with the default tactic.

Also, if your players already were very tired and jaded before a match then they will end up the match having very low conditions despite you were using the conditions saving tactic.


Thanks! Great tactic by the way!

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I read somewhere that we are supposed to change who takes corners on 5.0? Is it just left corner for LW and right corner for RW?

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famulor said: I read somewhere that we are supposed to change who takes corners on 5.0? Is it just left corner for LW and right corner for RW?

Yes you have to do it manually

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famulor said: I read somewhere that we are supposed to change who takes corners on 5.0? Is it just left corner for LW and right corner for RW?

I didn't change anything in the attacking corner set pieces for v5.0. It still works great if the wingers of the central midfielder take the corners.

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Magician said: I didn't change anything in the attacking corner set pieces for v5.0. It still works the best if ML/MR/MC takes the corners.

So i should just leave it as it is? :D

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famulor said: So i should just leave it as it is? :D

Just assign the wingers or the central midfielder to take the corners.

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Hey @Magician , how much do you think the hidden characteristics of players influence their quality and score in a match? Such as important matches, consistency, professionalism, etc. They are visible only with the help of the editor.

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Sane said: Hey @Magician , how much do you think the hidden characteristics of players influence their quality and score in a match? Such as important matches, consistency, professionalism, etc. They are visible only with the help of the editor.

Hi,

The 'Consistency' attribute determines how often a player plays at 100% of his CA. For example, a player with "20" Consistency plays 20 of 25 matches at 100% of his CA and a player with "10" Consistency plays only 10 of 25 matches at 100% of his CA.

The 'Important Matches' attribute works similar to the 'Consistency' attribute but it only comes into play during Cup Finals or other important matches.

The 'Professionalism' attribute determines the development rate of a player and whether he's able to reach the maximum value his of his PA ( Potential Ability ) or not.

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do u have a saving condition tactic for it

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Magician what do you think?:cool:
I am in the dreamland :D

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babemocni1988 said: Magician what do you think?:cool:
I am in the dreamland :D


That looks very good. :)

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I'm using your V5, and like a few other tactics out there, yes it makes you overachieve easily. BUT I'm getting VERY frustrated with the kind of games you see in the pics, that are happening way too often. Opposition keeper is usually MOM, and what can I say, I just feel like breaking my laptop in two when this happens!!! :angry: :angry:  Is anyone experiencing the same? Any thoughts on this?

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Dimartino said: I'm using your V5, and like a few other tactics out there, yes it makes you overachieve easily. BUT I'm getting VERY frustrated with the kind of games you see in the pics, that are happening way too often. Opposition keeper is usually MOM, and what can I say, I just feel like breaking my laptop in two when this happens!!! :angry: :angry:  Is anyone experiencing the same? Any thoughts on this?

Yeah... from time to time that happens with me too and I think you can't do nothing about it that's just how the game works. It's designed to drive you mad. :)

When I can't score I change the mentality to "Very Attacking" as Magician suggests and it sometimes helps.

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just 2 loans in January transfer window,eric garcia BPD and Raspadori for a Shadow,brutal combination with my favorite younster Mousa Barow!destroying serie A ...
I dont remember to have this results ever before with underdog in Italian league,beaten Juvex2,Milan 2x,Lazio 2x,Inter and...:D
NEVER BEFORE
AND I USE FITNES CONDITION SAVE TACTIC WHEN I GOT 2 GOALS LEAD,OR ONE GOAL LEAD AFTER 70 MINUTES
WORKS AMAZING!

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Very good with Everton.
No transfert, 1rst season

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Magician said: If you play with "Instant Result" then you can create these match plans:




Really weird I don't get that substitution option (make subs after min 70). What do I have to do?

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Are there anyone uses FMRTE or Genie Scout with this tactic? Can u give me some advice? Pace, acceleration important but some slow people have Bette ratings. It is very complicated this Year.

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crazyfmguy93 said: Are there anyone uses FMRTE or Genie Scout with this tactic? Can u give me some advice? Pace, acceleration important but some slow people have Bette ratings. It is very complicated this Year.

Using Genie. Looking for SS with a potential rating of a certain % (depends who are you managing) and potential acceleration of at least 17. While I was managing my local team from Romanian League I was searching for a SS with a potential rating of at least 70% but 17-18 acceleration. Now that I am managing AC Milan, I look for SS that have at least 90% rating and 16-17 acceleration.

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kvasir said: Using Genie. Looking for SS with a potential rating of a certain % (depends who are you managing) and potential acceleration of at least 17. While I was managing my local team from Romanian League I was searching for a SS with a potential rating of at least 70% but 17-18 acceleration. Now that I am managing AC Milan, I look for SS that have at least 90% rating and 16-17 acceleration.

For other positions?

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what about training to this tactic?

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crazyfmguy93 said: Are there anyone uses FMRTE or Genie Scout with this tactic? Can u give me some advice? Pace, acceleration important but some slow people have Bette ratings. It is very complicated this Year.

In regards to percentage ratings in Genie I'd say it would be good to edit them a bit if you are planning to use them.

Go to Menu -> Rating -> Edit player rating and load this one (bottom right corner, click on rating) - https://www.mediafire.com/file/lfjspwyledytqn7/Hacker.grf/file. It increases importance of pace and acceleration for all positions, adds a bit professionalism, determination and consistency to rating calculations, and lowers the ratings of player based on their injury proneness (also changes a little ratings for other positions, for example I've increased composure by a little for strikers and lowered first touch, but these are really small changes, based on how I view the game, you can tweak it to your own liking).

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kvasir said: Really weird I don't get that substitution option (make subs after min 70). What do I have to do?

If you use a custom skin then it might be what causes the issue.

crazyfmguy93 said: some slow people have Bette ratings. It is very complicated this Year.

Those ratings are completely useless... I suggest ignoring them.

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Egraam said: In regards to percentage ratings in Genie I'd say it would be good to edit them a bit if you are planning to use them.

Go to Menu -> Rating -> Edit player rating and load this one (bottom right corner, click on rating) - https://www.mediafire.com/file/lfjspwyledytqn7/Hacker.grf/file. It increases importance of pace and acceleration for all positions, adds a bit professionalism, determination and consistency to rating calculations, and lowers the ratings of player based on their injury proneness (also changes a little ratings for other positions, for example I've increased composure by a little for strikers and lowered first touch, but these are really small changes, based on how I view the game, you can tweak it to your own liking).


This sounds amazing, I will try.


Magician said: If you use a custom skin then it might be what causes the issue.



For the General Training I use 'Training Style - Balanced' and for the Individual Training I use different additional focuses and different Position/Role/Duty/ training depending on the situation, I try to follow this table -  https://fm-arena.com/table/9-important-attributes/



Those ratings are completely useless... I suggest ignoring them.


Some defenders have a good pace and acceleration but they don't have marking and defending skills, there must be a balance between every attributes.

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Won double with Bologna first season!
12 points advantage!
Never done before
Congratulation Magician1

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babemocni1988 said: Won double with Bologna first season!
12 points advantage!
Never done before
Congratulation Magician1


that's a great, pal! :thup:

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