Are you guys learning players traits? For example run into space on shadow strikers, get forward on central midfielder. And have you found any success/must have traits?
goatmas said: Are you guys learning players traits? For example run into space on shadow strikers, get forward on central midfielder. And have you found any success/must have traits? Expand
Here's what @ZaZ said about traits in other thread
ZaZ said: In short, you only want traits that enforce what the tactic asks the player to do. Anything else has potential to disrupt the flow of the tactics.
For example, if a position has the instruction "hold back", then add "stay back at all times", but never "get further forward", since that would be opposite of what the tactic asks him to do. Expand
goatmas said: Are you guys learning players traits? For example run into space on shadow strikers, get forward on central midfielder. And have you found any success/must have traits? Expand
It's what @Lapidus said up there. All I can say is to not disrupt the tactic, because other than that, I'm not very qualified to talk about player traits. I have never done a comparative study about it, so anything I say would have no base.
However, someone made a comparison about traits for strikers and concluded that the best trait for them is run into space. That's all I can say, but I don't have the link to those tests.
I personally have, over time, started trying to avoid traits. Although I have a soft spot fot "plays one-twos" on attackers. The reason for me is that I prefer my players to be versatile, and I don't like having to think too hard about "so-and-so is natural at CM and DM but can't play CM because he has comes deep to get ball and dictates tempo".
I do really love plays one-twos though. But pretty much every other trait I try to avoid at this point. I just don't think they're that important for improving results.
quick question. does the number of stars (role ability) in the tactics page matter much? for eg. ihattaren is 4 stars as a inverted winger but since the blue zaz strat uses a support winger when i play him there hes 2.5 stars. does that mean hes significantly worse as a support winge
cosmex said: quick question. does the number of stars (role ability) in the tactics page matter much? for eg. ihattaren is 4 stars as a inverted winger but since the blue zaz strat uses a support winger when i play him there hes 2.5 stars. does that mean hes significantly worse as a support winge Expand
Just ignore the stars, they don't affect how well the player will do. However, I would prefer to use wingers with the same foot as side, to make it easier to cross from the byline.
ZaZ said: Just ignore the stars, they don't affect how well the player will do. However, I would prefer to use wingers with the same foot as side, to make it easier to cross from the byline. Expand
Hello all.
What tactic would you recommend for athletic bilbao's first season 2 af or 2 ss ?
Yes, Blue 3.0 with 2 SS. You have almost two months to get your strikers to accomplished, when it makes very little difference from naturals. That's at least eight friendly matches if you play once a week, or even more if you play every 5 or 6 days.
ZaZ said: Yes, Blue 3.0 with 2 SS. You have almost two months to get your strikers to accomplished, when it makes very little difference from naturals. That's at least eight friendly matches if you play once a week, or even more if you play every 5 or 6 days. Expand
fortune35 said: Athletic Bilbao's first 10 games all look good. Expand
Looking good there, keep us posted!
P.S.: Some players are starting to show fatigue. You can see that in your medical centre, as well as the symbol "Rst". Make sure to rotate to avoid fatigue, as that can make your players lose performance even if they are in full condition and match fitness.
Hi @ZaZ ! Very nice tactic you got here. Im curious if you let your assistant manager take care of press conferences or how do you deal with them? Also, do you let him take care of the team talks?
Fjonkan said: Hi @ZaZ ! Very nice tactic you got here. Im curious if you let your assistant manager take care of press conferences or how do you deal with them? Also, do you let him take care of the team talks? Expand
Thanks! I usually allow the assistant manager to handle press conferences, but I do the team talk myself. Team talk is a golden opportunity to fix problems with complacency or pressure.
The first season is over. Even though we had a lot of injuries, we were champions.In the last part of the season there was a serious decline in the team, especially after losing the Cup final to real Madrid . Next season we'll see...
Fantastic tactic as we are all aware but has anyone ever tinkered with the DLP role? Mine is a world class player but he hardly ever scores above a 7. Whoever is in the role really...love the cm on attack tho
GlynnLFC said: Fantastic tactic as we are all aware but has anyone ever tinkered with the DLP role? Mine is a world class player but he hardly ever scores above a 7. Whoever is in the role really...love the cm on attack tho Expand
Having a low rating is a destiny of DM position in any tactic, it's just the way Match Engine works in FM and you can't do anything about.
In FM DMs, Full Backs, Central Midfielder and Central Defenders get lower rating compared with other positions. I think the devs did it work like that to prevent these from getting Golden Ball ahead for Strikers, Inside Forward and Wingers(like it happens in real life) because in FM the average rating during the season is what's taken into consideration when it comes to the Golden Ball winner.
Check this out! I just moved the DLP into central defence with the Lib att role and hes bossed it. I`ll continue with this and report after 15-20 games how its performed.
Droid said: In FM DMs, Full Backs, Central Midfielder and Central Defenders get lower rating compared with other positions. I think the devs did it work like that to prevent these from getting Golden Ball ahead for Strikers, Inside Forward and Wingers(like it happens in real life) because in FM the average rating during the season is what's taken into consideration when it comes to the Golden Ball winner. Expand
I believe they have a high weight for dribbling, and those positions don't dribble as much. Defenders can still get good score when they get some goal from corner, or when they make many interceptions/disarms.
Han106 said: Not sure if it matters but what's the recommended pitch dimensions? Expand
MAximum size. Longer field means more space behind opponents for through balls, while wider field means more space between opponents, allowing for more through balls.
Sorry for the constant uploads im new Third match with the lib and the third match in a row hes scored over 7 rating!!...i think my tweak may achieve this tactic a 7.3 rating on Arena
DeviAngel said: This has to get tested. On my Sparta Prague test this tactic is doing great .
It was tested, 6.6 against 6.8 from Fanatic.
Are you guys learning players traits? For example run into space on shadow strikers, get forward on central midfielder. And have you found any success/must have traits?
goatmas said: Are you guys learning players traits? For example run into space on shadow strikers, get forward on central midfielder. And have you found any success/must have traits?
Here's what @ZaZ said about traits in other thread
ZaZ said: In short, you only want traits that enforce what the tactic asks the player to do. Anything else has potential to disrupt the flow of the tactics.
For example, if a position has the instruction "hold back", then add "stay back at all times", but never "get further forward", since that would be opposite of what the tactic asks him to do.
goatmas said: Are you guys learning players traits? For example run into space on shadow strikers, get forward on central midfielder. And have you found any success/must have traits?
It's what @Lapidus said up there. All I can say is to not disrupt the tactic, because other than that, I'm not very qualified to talk about player traits. I have never done a comparative study about it, so anything I say would have no base.
However, someone made a comparison about traits for strikers and concluded that the best trait for them is run into space. That's all I can say, but I don't have the link to those tests.
I personally have, over time, started trying to avoid traits. Although I have a soft spot fot "plays one-twos" on attackers. The reason for me is that I prefer my players to be versatile, and I don't like having to think too hard about "so-and-so is natural at CM and DM but can't play CM because he has comes deep to get ball and dictates tempo".
I do really love plays one-twos though. But pretty much every other trait I try to avoid at this point. I just don't think they're that important for improving results.
quick question. does the number of stars (role ability) in the tactics page matter much? for eg. ihattaren is 4 stars as a inverted winger but since the blue zaz strat uses a support winger when i play him there hes 2.5 stars. does that mean hes significantly worse as a support winge
cosmex said: quick question. does the number of stars (role ability) in the tactics page matter much? for eg. ihattaren is 4 stars as a inverted winger but since the blue zaz strat uses a support winger when i play him there hes 2.5 stars. does that mean hes significantly worse as a support winge
Just ignore the stars, they don't affect how well the player will do. However, I would prefer to use wingers with the same foot as side, to make it easier to cross from the byline.
ZaZ said: Just ignore the stars, they don't affect how well the player will do. However, I would prefer to use wingers with the same foot as side, to make it easier to cross from the byline.
Hello all.
What tactic would you recommend for athletic bilbao's first season 2 af or 2 ss ?
fortune35 said: Hello all.
What tactic would you recommend for athletic bilbao's first season 2 af or 2 ss ?
I would just run Blue and do lots of friendlies in the pre-season.
ZaZ said: I would just run Blue and do lots of friendlies in the pre-season.
Blue 3.0? 2 SS ?
fortune35 said: Blue 3.0? 2 SS ?
Yes, Blue 3.0 with 2 SS. You have almost two months to get your strikers to accomplished, when it makes very little difference from naturals. That's at least eight friendly matches if you play once a week, or even more if you play every 5 or 6 days.
ZaZ said: Yes, Blue 3.0 with 2 SS. You have almost two months to get your strikers to accomplished, when it makes very little difference from naturals. That's at least eight friendly matches if you play once a week, or even more if you play every 5 or 6 days.
THANKS BROTHER .
Athletic Bilbao's first 10 games all look good.
fortune35 said: Athletic Bilbao's first 10 games all look good.
Looking good there, keep us posted!
P.S.: Some players are starting to show fatigue. You can see that in your medical centre, as well as the symbol "Rst". Make sure to rotate to avoid fatigue, as that can make your players lose performance even if they are in full condition and match fitness.
Hi @ZaZ ! Very nice tactic you got here. Im curious if you let your assistant manager take care of press conferences or how do you deal with them? Also, do you let him take care of the team talks?
Fjonkan said: Hi @ZaZ ! Very nice tactic you got here. Im curious if you let your assistant manager take care of press conferences or how do you deal with them? Also, do you let him take care of the team talks?
Thanks! I usually allow the assistant manager to handle press conferences, but I do the team talk myself. Team talk is a golden opportunity to fix problems with complacency or pressure.
The first season is over. Even though we had a lot of injuries, we were champions.In the last part of the season there was a serious decline in the team, especially after losing the Cup final to real Madrid . Next season we'll see...
Fantastic tactic as we are all aware but has anyone ever tinkered with the DLP role? Mine is a world class player but he hardly ever scores above a 7. Whoever is in the role really...love the cm on attack tho
GlynnLFC said: Fantastic tactic as we are all aware but has anyone ever tinkered with the DLP role? Mine is a world class player but he hardly ever scores above a 7. Whoever is in the role really...love the cm on attack tho
Having a low rating is a destiny of DM position in any tactic, it's just the way Match Engine works in FM and you can't do anything about.
I hope FM22 improves on this then
GlynnLFC said: I hope FM22 improves on this then
In FM DMs, Full Backs, Central Midfielder and Central Defenders get lower rating compared with other positions. I think the devs did it work like that to prevent these from getting Golden Ball ahead for Strikers, Inside Forward and Wingers(like it happens in real life) because in FM the average rating during the season is what's taken into consideration when it comes to the Golden Ball winner.
Check this out! I just moved the DLP into central defence with the Lib att role and hes bossed it. I`ll continue with this and report after 15-20 games how its performed.
Not sure if it matters but what's the recommended pitch dimensions?
Droid said: In FM DMs, Full Backs, Central Midfielder and Central Defenders get lower rating compared with other positions. I think the devs did it work like that to prevent these from getting Golden Ball ahead for Strikers, Inside Forward and Wingers(like it happens in real life) because in FM the average rating during the season is what's taken into consideration when it comes to the Golden Ball winner.
I believe they have a high weight for dribbling, and those positions don't dribble as much. Defenders can still get good score when they get some goal from corner, or when they make many interceptions/disarms.
Han106 said: Not sure if it matters but what's the recommended pitch dimensions?
MAximum size. Longer field means more space behind opponents for through balls, while wider field means more space between opponents, allowing for more through balls.
Second game using a lib instead of the DLP, looking at the rating he does have some influence on the game.
Sorry for the constant uploads im new
Third match with the lib and the third match in a row hes scored over 7 rating!!...i think my tweak may achieve this tactic a 7.3 rating on Arena 
GlynnLFC said: Second game using a lib instead of the DLP, looking at the rating he does have some influence on the game.
Obviously, as a central defender your DM should get higher ratings but overall it lowers the tactic efficiency.
Here're few tactics that are similar to your - 5 Defenders tactics
Guys any filter for attributes that has been shared/made yet for this tactic ?
And if not for what do i need to look for SS paced striker and convert it ?
kcetin20 said: Guys any filter for attributes that has been shared/made yet for this tactic ?
And if not for what do i need to look for SS paced striker and convert it ?
You can turn any paced striker or inside forward or winger or attacking midfielder into SS
Do you know why the 2 ss dom't get green arrows as opossed of 2 strikers or 2 cms?