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CBP87 said: Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed Katana.

Sorry but what changes are you referring to?

In regards to the Katana v3.1, then Katana still outscored this tactic but I do also believe that attacking has become less effective than positive and balanced. In my opinion, a 4231 would be better suited for Arsenal as you could play Rice and Partey as the DMs with Odegaard as the AM


In regards to tactic effectiveness, would you say this is more balanced? I find Katana to be, even if it has attack mentality as default, to be quite resilient against even the biggest of opponents, although I ship in some goals, but make up for it by (usually) scoring more.
CBP87 said: Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed Katana.

Sorry but what changes are you referring to?

In regards to the Katana v3.1, then Katana still outscored this tactic but I do also believe that attacking has become less effective than positive and balanced. In my opinion, a 4231 would be better suited for Arsenal as you could play Rice and Partey as the DMs with Odegaard as the AM


Oh, I meant the first comments on this tactic is by you, where you share some tweaks. I just wondered if the tweaks were already in the comments or not.

Regarding you suggestion, KATANA would absolutely work with Arsenal, It's just I want another one too when I want to play with both Havertz (but not as striker) AND Ødegaard :-)

With A 4-1-2-3 like this one I can fit both in.
Lapidus said: I would add 'Invite Crosses" to this tactic

'Invite Crosses' gives a nice boost - https://fm-arena.com/thread/10046-fm24-invite-crosses-vs-none/


Wow, thanks for the tip!
Your KATANA 4-2-3-1 is elite:D , but starting save with Arsenal now, and I want to use this as it better suits the players they have.

The tweaks you have suggested, are they implemented in the downloaded tactic, or something I should change?

How is this compared to KATANA would you say? Almost as good?
And If the changes you mentioned is not included in the downloadable tactic, how much does it change the tactic? For the better? Or about the same?

Sorry for all these questions!
Will this corner routine have the same effect if I swap roles between DCR (Which seems to be primary goalscorer from corners) and STRIKER?

Or will the routine then fail?
Lapidus said: That's a quite funny question. How do you think? :)

If you make the corners to be less effective then the tactic also will become less effective. Seems quite obvious too me.


One question though. Is it possibly at least to change the roles on corner from the central defender to, say the striker at least?
Lapidus said: That's a quite funny question. How do you think? :)

If you make the corners to be less effective then the tactic also will become less effective. Seems quite obvious too me.


I know, quite silly, but other than the corner routine, how good is it?

I haven't played since update. Before that, as I said in my last post here, I used DeliciousStory 3231 Simple Positive Headache v2, which didn't have a defender scoring 40 goals, but the best "realistic" tactic out there by far.
Mark said: You can always just take a default tactic like 4-2-3-1 Tiki Taka or Gegenpress with default set pieces. It will work well enough and it sound like that's what you are after. No exploits. Standard tactic and then just reliant on your managerial ability with the squad. There are many ways to play this game.

Thanks Mark.

I know it's a game, but a central defender scoring 30-40 goals a season is a bit too much.

I used the tactic "4231 Simple Positive Headache v2" before the update. Not played FM since the update, though.

That tactic fron DeliciousStory was not using corner exploit, but still overpowered (won CL with Rosenborg in like season 6).
Terrible at making tactics myself, don't have the patient. Been waiting for one that works really well with new patch and that's a real tactic (too many weird ones).

My only gripe is the very unrealistic corner routine, which obviously is a huge exploit. How will the tactic work if I remove the routine? Is corner goals what makes this tactic?

Or are there similar good tactics like this, but withough corner exploit?