dzek said: The truth is I haven't tried it in this year's version. Last year (though I believe the same is true this year) I came to the conclusion that for some reason the left side is somehow more efficient than the right. @alex
I also saw other evidence in my own tests of this in addition to the results above.
But we can, if anyone wants to of course, try it again this year maybe something has changed. Expand
dzek said: The truth is I haven't tried it in this year's version. Last year (though I believe the same is true this year) I came to the conclusion that for some reason the left side is somehow more efficient than the right. @alex
I also saw other evidence in my own tests of this in addition to the results above.
But we can, if anyone wants to of course, try it again this year maybe something has changed. Expand
A two point difference in 1200 matches with exactly the same GF and GA. So surely just noise not a real difference between left and right. In practice there could be a difference based on a particular opponents having a weak left or right sided defender, otherwise I’d just choose based on which side fits your own players strengths.
But as I said before you can’t test a tactic without set pieces, so what is going to be your default? Do you want to have a default that deliberately aims headers away from CBs? If you play with 3 CBs are you not allowed to have them all in the box because that’s “unfair”? Some people are just jumping to conclusions about rankings without even trying to present evidence that there’s a problem. (Like showing that some completely different tactic would move from a mediocre ranking to be ranked best if you just aimed corners at the other CB). Yes, in FM23 you could create a corner routine that scored a lot of goals … IF the player you aimed at had extreme jumping reach and headers, and if your corner taker was accurate. If you prioritized fast CBs and they weren’t good at jumping and heading you could have that routine and not even know there was anything unusual about it. The issue was just as much a problem of how the match engine dealt with those attributes as it was the positioning. So should tactics also not exploit pace and acceleration because that is a much bigger advantage than any corner routine?
I don’t see how the changes in FM24 affect anything. To test a tactic you have to have set pieces, and set pieces are always dependent at least on formation and the propensity of the tactic to lead to set pieces. It’s not like the rankings are skewed because one group is submitting tactics with deliberately bad set pieces to not take advantage of known exploits, so I don’t think the ranking of tactics would change at all. If you don’t want to score a lot from corners you can just pick a top tactic and change the set piece routine, or just not sign CBs with 18 jumping reach and 16 headers. It’s just as much a problem of attributes as it is of the set pieces themselves.
Here are my tests from last year:
Left - https://fm-arena.com/thread/6199-fm23-the-last-dance-v1-7-left-by-dzek/
Right - https://fm-arena.com/thread/6200-fm23-the-last-dance-v1-7-right-by-dzek/
I also saw other evidence in my own tests of this in addition to the results above.
But we can, if anyone wants to of course, try it again this year maybe something has changed.
dzek said: The truth is I haven't tried it in this year's version. Last year (though I believe the same is true this year) I came to the conclusion that for some reason the left side is somehow more efficient than the right. @alex
Here are my tests from last year:
Left - https://fm-arena.com/thread/6199-fm23-the-last-dance-v1-7-left-by-dzek/
Right - https://fm-arena.com/thread/6200-fm23-the-last-dance-v1-7-right-by-dzek/
I also saw other evidence in my own tests of this in addition to the results above.
But we can, if anyone wants to of course, try it again this year maybe something has changed.
A two point difference in 1200 matches with exactly the same GF and GA. So surely just noise not a real difference between left and right. In practice there could be a difference based on a particular opponents having a weak left or right sided defender, otherwise I’d just choose based on which side fits your own players strengths.